Position 2023: Defenders Discussion

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Haven't seen much discussion on Short. Might be ok this year if he can return to the backs due to the extra mids the Tigers have drafted? :unsure:
If he was D eligible he may have been my first picked. A lot of defenders look like they could regress this year, and he’s one that has a pretty clear path to better scoring.
 
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If he was D eligible he may have been my first picked. A lot of defenders look like they could regress this year, and he’s one that has a pretty clear path to better scoring.
If there's enough rookies and he's clearly in a DEF role early doors you probably could start him in the mids and move him back when DPP comes. Would just be a case of weighing up a D rookie vs a M rookie for 5 rounds, versus the potential discount you can pick him up at now.

Or just wait like everyone else!
 

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If there's enough rookies and he's clearly in a DEF role early doors you probably could start him in the mids and move him back when DPP comes. Would just be a case of weighing up a D rookie vs a M rookie for 5 rounds, versus the potential discount you can pick him up at now.

Or just wait like everyone else!
That’s true. One challenge is that I think the mid premiums look a lot more appealing/solid than the defenders, so my defense could be relying more heavily only on rookies than I’d like!
 
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That’s true. One challenge is that I think the mid premiums look a lot more appealing/solid than the defenders, so my defense could be relying more heavily only on rookies than I’d like!
I reckon defence will be our best line for rookies this year so I dont really mind going light, hard to see how 2 or 3 of Wagner,Wilmot,McKenna,Dean,Goater,Ginbey,Chesser,Constable,Weddle and Cowan don't work then theres Bruce who should get DPP Round 6 plus Jones and Coffield a little more expensive.

Can likely fill a spot with Yeo and Bowes who are priced miles under what they are capable of delivering aswell.
 
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That’s true. One challenge is that I think the mid premiums look a lot more appealing/solid than the defenders, so my defense could be relying more heavily only on rookies than I’d like!
I reckon defence will be our best line for rookies this year so I dont really mind going light, hard to see how 2 or 3 of Wagner,Wilmot,McKenna,Dean,Goater,Ginbey,Chesser,Constable,Weddle and Cowan don't work then theres Bruce who should get DPP Round 6 plus Jones and Coffield a little more expensive.

Can likely fill a spot with Yeo and Bowes who are priced miles under what they are capable of delivering aswell.
Pretty much every iteration of my team has a cheap D line up to this point.
 
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Docherty is just a very good player. Like Laird is just a very good player. Always happy to see them in my team. I missed the boat on Docherty last year. He simply got away from me. I wonder how much an illness plays into general fitness?
If there's enough rookies and he's clearly in a DEF role early doors you probably could start him in the mids and move him back when DPP comes. Would just be a case of weighing up a D rookie vs a M rookie for 5 rounds, versus the potential discount you can pick him up at now.

Or just wait like everyone else!
Yep. He's not cheap enough to present great value so might as well wait.
 
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I reckon defence will be our best line for rookies this year so I dont really mind going light, hard to see how 2 or 3 of Wagner,Wilmot,McKenna,Dean,Goater,Ginbey,Chesser,Constable,Weddle and Cowan don't work then theres Bruce who should get DPP Round 6 plus Jones and Coffield a little more expensive.

Can likely fill a spot with Yeo and Bowes who are priced miles under what they are capable of delivering aswell.
Yeah, I'm definitely leaning to as many D rookies as possible this year, uncertainty on paying for the premiums (I like them all but upside I struggle to see much compared to mid/forward options).

Having a strong crop of rookies and a few midprice options certainly doesn't hurt!
 
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This seems like the ultimate idiot's dilemma.

When you'll play your best intercept and rebounding defender, who is genuinely an AA level player at that position, forward to cover a rookie who couldn't be any worse at the position than he is and may as well learn the position you're just being stupid.

Taylor, Himmel and pick the 3rd from Haynes, Davis, Aleer and Keeffe et al just seems too easy. At this point, may as well try one of the others as a forward if you really don't want to play Cadman, Himmel can be elite as a defender but he's proven he's below average at best as a forward, pretty sure all that latter group can perform at a similarly low level.

I don't even care fantasy wise, I can't pick him as a starting pick when the coach is already showing he's been indoctrinated by Giant philosophy so it's really just a frustration at how people can be so stupid and fall into AFL coaching gigs.
 
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This seems like the ultimate idiot's dilemma.

When you'll play your best intercept and rebounding defender, who is genuinely an AA level player at that position, forward to cover a rookie who couldn't be any worse at the position than he is and may as well learn the position you're just being stupid.

Taylor, Himmel and pick the 3rd from Haynes, Davis, Aleer and Keeffe et al just seems too easy. At this point, may as well try one of the others as a forward if you really don't want to play Cadman, Himmel can be elite as a defender but he's proven he's below average at best as a forward, pretty sure all that latter group can perform at a similarly low level.

I don't even care fantasy wise, I can't pick him as a starting pick when the coach is already showing he's been indoctrinated by Giant philosophy so it's really just a frustration at how people can be so stupid and fall into AFL coaching gigs.
Yeah it's not really that much of a "dilemma" is it?...just play the guy where he plays best, for the good of the team, and him.
 
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This seems like the ultimate idiot's dilemma.

When you'll play your best intercept and rebounding defender, who is genuinely an AA level player at that position, forward to cover a rookie who couldn't be any worse at the position than he is and may as well learn the position you're just being stupid.

Taylor, Himmel and pick the 3rd from Haynes, Davis, Aleer and Keeffe et al just seems too easy. At this point, may as well try one of the others as a forward if you really don't want to play Cadman, Himmel can be elite as a defender but he's proven he's below average at best as a forward, pretty sure all that latter group can perform at a similarly low level.

I don't even care fantasy wise, I can't pick him as a starting pick when the coach is already showing he's been indoctrinated by Giant philosophy so it's really just a frustration at how people can be so stupid and fall into AFL coaching gigs.
It make you wonder whether the coaches will continue to stuff around with the other players as well 🤔😬
 
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This seems like the ultimate idiot's dilemma.

When you'll play your best intercept and rebounding defender, who is genuinely an AA level player at that position, forward to cover a rookie who couldn't be any worse at the position than he is and may as well learn the position you're just being stupid.

Taylor, Himmel and pick the 3rd from Haynes, Davis, Aleer and Keeffe et al just seems too easy. At this point, may as well try one of the others as a forward if you really don't want to play Cadman, Himmel can be elite as a defender but he's proven he's below average at best as a forward, pretty sure all that latter group can perform at a similarly low level.

I don't even care fantasy wise, I can't pick him as a starting pick when the coach is already showing he's been indoctrinated by Giant philosophy so it's really just a frustration at how people can be so stupid and fall into AFL coaching gigs.
Jack Buckley could be another one in the backline, did his ACL in round 16 2021. Played 14 straight games that year before going down with the injury in the 15th.


Potentially a cashcow this year, priced at $205,000.
Looking back on that season he started priced at $223,800 and peaked at $356,700 with the 69.7 average to that point. This season
 
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