Strategy 2023: Round 9 Trades

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Yeah im thinking that way. Probably got to be Sinclair vs gulden. Ryan would be out of reach. Not to fussed on byes that that pairing does help.
Sinclair takes Concotta off field. Gulden takes off Simpson.

Sinclair completes my DeF with shiezel fwd. Ziebell is back. Trying to keep spots open fwd for Gawn and possibly Walsh. Gulden fwd though allows shiezel to go back. Oh too many options
 
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For this reason, I think you could fade him this week and get next week. He's not going to rise massively this week (touchwood)
I don't disagree. For me it's about not going early on Drury this week, and don't really like the Weddle /Knevitt /Atkins options. Feel I've gone with options I didn't like the last few weeks "because they were there" and I was having cash gen FOMO. This has led me to trading one out for 20k profit and 2 trades, another sitting as a dead rookie on my bench, and a 3rd unlikely to make me more than about 50k before the byes. So I've gone with the guy who, although a big risk, I rated pre season as one to watch. The fact that GCS plays North this week doesn't hurt either.
 

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JS is terrible. He's playing because McCartin (and McCartin x2 and Rampe) are out. I can't see Paddy coming back soon, but Tom will probably be back next week to push Gould out and then Rampe's return in a month would drop Gould completely out of the picture again.
Also, Melican is making his return from injury in the VFL this week and he too is likely preferred to Gould.
 
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What if you went McKenna > Steele this week?
Would mean keeping Ashcroft which you wanted. Guessing it's not ideal BE-wise but with the hope that Ashcroft makes money this week with a big score at home then maybe you're still in a position to grab Brayshaw next week?

I think I'd still consider trading Ridley to Atkins - they're averaging similar. And Ridley going to plummet in price whilst Atkins should rise so long as he holds his spot for the next few weeks. Would mean saving a heap of coin while getting a semi-similar scorer?

Looks like you've been unlucky on a lot of rookies so far, and I think Atkins provides a bit more flexibility than a weddle. If weddle is dropped next week then you have no cash gen again - at least Atkins down to Drury next week if worst case he's dropped will bank some extra dollars.
Can’t go McKenna to Steele. Only have 149,500 in the bank.

Yeah, that’s the main reason I want Atkins tbh. Even if he gets dropped next week he should still be 250k+ so still has some value in him but Weddle will only be 160k-ish if he gets dropped.

Something to ponder about for the next 11 hours!

Thanks for the response.
 
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Out: Ashcroft , Van Rooyen and Ratugolea
In: Oliver, Dawson (via Rozee) and Drury

Achieves the above but a possibility that a solid return on investment is not achieved given the high entry price and the flow on effects for further upgrades if cash generation stalls.
Seems obvious to me. JVR to Oliver via Rozee.
You've got the cash currently to go Johnson straight to either Oliver or Dawson - which seems like a really viable option. Gets a nonplaying bench rookie out and means you don't need to take McVee's scoring.

Alternatively. Johnson straight to a fallen premo such as Brayshaw or Steele would similarly get a rookie off field and still give you about $120k for next week. The reason I'm only suggesting a single move this week is that the rookie options don't scream must gets. The only one that is interesting is Atkins, but I'm not sure you've got the cash gen elsewhere to make it viable given it's a risk.

Looking ahead to next week you could probably go McVee - Drury and then Rat up to a premo. Maybe another mid premo (walsh?) and swing Roezee back forward.
Could even boost as well with two options; Try to get Hopper to a fallen premo if you have the cash left over (bray/steele) or pick up Berry on the bubble and bank some more cash from Davey/ Cowan/Teakle to get another premo the week later once JVR and Ashcroft have hit their peaks.

Might be slightly more conservative than a few others suggest at this stage but that's my two cents.
Thanks everyone. I'm leaning towards JVR to Oliver - killing me this year. Not enamoured with the rookie options so will hold off bringing anyone in until next week I think. Boost on the cards for next week I feel.
 
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In a bit of a tough spot. Have lost Ridley and Parish to injury over the past week. Originally was planning on trading Ridley and McKenna to Brayshaw and Atkins. My opinion on Atkins hasn't really changed but I loved seeing Weddle keep his spot with all the ins and outs they had at selection. I'm now starting to lean towards Weddle. I'm definitely not trading Parish unless some bad news comes out. The big one though, is what to do with Ridley. From about round 4 onwards my plan with him was to offload him at his round 14 bye. If I keep him, he won't have much value in him due to that 18 in his price cycle. But, it's also keeping a rookie off the field. I may even end up being forced to keep him for the rest of the season if things get worse.

My new plan is not confirmed, but I'm getting more confident in it by the hour.

This week:
Ashcroft>Brayshaw
Cowan>Weddle
Leaves me with 65.4k

Would prefer to trade McKenna over Ashcroft but 1.1k short, annoying.

Next week:
McKenna>Steele/Lloyd
Callaghan>Drury/Berry
Should leave me with around 60k or so.

I'm expecting to take a hit in the rankings this week with only 16 premos on the park. Will have to field Ryan, Callaghan, Simpson, Mitchell, Cincotta and loop Weddle into McKenna. I'll also have 7 DNP's. Currently at 3.5k overall and would be happy to stay in the top 5k after this round. But if Ridley and Parish are both back next week (probably shouldn't count on that, should I?) I will only have 3 rookies on field. Those would likely be Ryan, Cincotta and Simpson/Drury/Johnson. One thing you may notice is that I'm not going for Oliver. For me, he's just too expensive. I'm going to struggle to complete a team at this point and need to look at value. That is why I'm looking at options like Brayshaw, Steele and Lloyd above. I'm looking at grabbing some of Neale, Mills, Sicily, Merrett after their byes. If I can afford it, then I can look at Oliver and I'd love to get Gawn if he gets FWD status so he can cover the rucks in the backend of the season.

Feedback appreciated.
I think Parish will not be back next week. So could justify the trade. But let’s assume you’re not, as you’re pretty darn set on keeping.

I don’t think Ridley will be substantially higher (>50k) in R14. Trade now or hold until then. Let’s assume you hold. I feel your pain, I also started him.

Your bench is sketchy. (Note: IDK about Hewett JS). The two I would fix this week are Roberts and Cowan to Weddle and Atkins. Get some more cash in and cycle them out over the byes.

Next week, I know the cash will burn a hole in your pocket but Berry and Drury in. Probably for Mitchell and McKenna if the DPPs work, or even fix another questionable rookie. Seems frustrating, but I don’t think you can go into the byes with a bench in that shape.
 
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Thanks everyone. I'm leaning towards JVR to Oliver - killing me this year. Not enamoured with the rookie options so will hold off bringing anyone in until next week I think. Boost on the cards for next week I feel.
Yeah you've really got to get these guys in as soon as possible as they hurt so much not having them compared to everyone else. I'm doing the same pretty much with Greene straight to Oliver which makes the team maybe 80 points better taking a JVR type of the field.

Still leaves me playing 3 rookies really being McKenna, Cincotta and a Baker type.
 
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I can get Anderson in one trade

Is it worth using an extra one to go Cowan > Weddle/Atkins?
Would go early on Dury but decided i dont to get too burnt this round so id rather have oen of the other options

Atkins- proven scorer a few years back, scoring is decent in current role, DPP which helps with byes, plus an extra 50k if i trade him in now, good bye

Weddle- plays defence in a team where the ball will likely be, 70k cheaper

No trade- Leaves me with 25 trades, 3 boosts and 122k ITB

Would like to push higher in rank this week but i feel everyone will be doing almost the same trades as me
You have way to many trades. Atkins over Weddle is using one, probably would if someone ready to go
 
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Can’t go McKenna to Steele. Only have 149,500 in the bank.

Yeah, that’s the main reason I want Atkins tbh. Even if he gets dropped next week he should still be 250k+ so still has some value in him but Weddle will only be 160k-ish if he gets dropped.

Something to ponder about for the next 11 hours!

Thanks for the response.
But you're paying $70k less to begin with to get Weddle over Atkins.
 
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I think Parish will not be back next week. So could justify the trade. But let’s assume you’re not, as you’re pretty darn set on keeping.

I don’t think Ridley will be substantially higher (>50k) in R14. Trade now or hold until then. Let’s assume you hold. I feel your pain, I also started him.

Your bench is sketchy. (Note: IDK about Hewett JS). The two I would fix this week are Roberts and Cowan to Weddle and Atkins. Get some more cash in and cycle them out over the byes.

Next week, I know the cash will burn a hole in your pocket but Berry and Drury in. Probably for Mitchell and McKenna if the DPPs work, or even fix another questionable rookie. Seems frustrating, but I don’t think you can go into the byes with a bench in that shape.
I’m done a lot of stuff around my bye structure in the last few weeks and I think I’ll be fine.
Of the 8 possible DNP’s this week their chances for round 12 are:
Ridley- should be fine
Parish- should be fine
Cowan- planning on having him traded out
Johnson- likely plays, but no certainty
Roberts- No chance, but planning on sideways-ing him in round 12 to the best bubble boy
Hewett- should be fit, think he’ll play, but can’t be sure
Madden- No chance
Sturt- A chance he plays but planning to be without him. Unlikely to trade him.

So best case scenario I have 1 donut, worst case 3-4 plus maybe an injury or 2.

Probably the most unsure I’ve been about my trades for a week in years.
 
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Pencil in

Ashcroft - > Docherty via Day
Davey - > Gulden

$ 58,100.00 in the Bank , 21 trades left.

3 onfield rookies remaining in Chandler , Hollands & Sheezel.

Baker & Wilmot downgrade cash probably gets me a $ 600k mid premium for Hollands.

Will need Cincotta & Mitchell to make a fair bit more (need another 2 downgrade options to appear) to upgrade Chandler via Gulden.

Sheezel (or Day) then to a midfield premium somehow.

Wait and see I guess
May as well have a crack

Davey - > Atkins
Ashcroft - > Gulden
Hollands - > Oliver

Leaves $ 1,300.00 and 20 trades.

Hopefully Wilmot down next round , then milk Atkins , Cincotta & Mitchell as much as possible and hope downgrade options appear to then upgrade Baker & Chandler
 
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I can get Anderson in one trade

Is it worth using an extra one to go Cowan > Weddle/Atkins?
Would go early on Dury but decided i dont to get too burnt this round so id rather have oen of the other options

Atkins- proven scorer a few years back, scoring is decent in current role, DPP which helps with byes, plus an extra 50k if i trade him in now, good bye

Weddle- plays defence in a team where the ball will likely be, 70k cheaper

No trade- Leaves me with 25 trades, 3 boosts and 122k ITB

Would like to push higher in rank this week but i feel everyone will be doing almost the same trades as me
You're in such a great position. I think Atkins over Weddle, and I think you should trade - you need to start to get to the levels that the rest of us have
 
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Can't decide on the following three options. Originally had the following

Greene > Drury
Richards > Anderson

or should I go for a safer thing with

Greene > Drury
Richards > Stewart

but I also don't want to miss the boat on Goulden, or other cheaper options, so considered the following

Greene > Atkins/Drury/Weddle (I think Atkins is best - but only leaves $38,400) - (Drury is $139,900 cash left over)
Richards > Goulden/Brayshaw

Already have Steele/Oliver/Laird/Cogs

Which option is best..... :unsure:
 
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I've got 2 trade scenarios, 24 trades left & $250k ITB

Option A

McKenna, Jones & Ashcroft to Docherty, Anderson & Drury. $8500 left over

Option B

McKenna, Jones & Ashcroft to Docherty, A.Brayshaw & Weddle. $54 left over

I was talking myself into holding Ashcroft all week but without him I can't finance the better upgrades.
 
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I've got 2 trade scenarios, 24 trades left & $250 ITB

Option A

McKenna, Jones & Ashcroft to Docherty, Anderson & Drury. $8500 left over

Option B

McKenna, Jones & Ashcroft to Docherty, A.Brayshaw & Weddle. $54 left over

I was talking myself into holding Ashcroft all week but without him I can't finance the better upgrades.
On principle A, but be careful taking out 2 Rd 12 bye players for 2 Rd 15 bye players. So, I would go for Option B based on byes, but it depends on how you stand with byes
 
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