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As a priority in terms of strategy - do you fix your bench early on or do you focus all 3 (4 if boosting) trades on starting lineup? I know that strategy really depends on what is in front of you but im wondering if i should 'fix' Buzelis or focus on the rest of my team with my trades? I think this is my 3rd or 4th season playing and first season i remember spending too much effort trying to 'fix' my bench and generate cash but then the original rookies i had came good and it ended up being a waste of trades.

The trade off i guess is whether you go for say 1 less game on court for a starter and help your cash generation with a decent bench cash cow/rookie OR do you just go with the maximum games on court and leave bench almost as is until potentially much later/if at all. I guess its a big decision this season given most popular (bench) rookies arent performing well early on so making trades for cash generation may be more worthwhile?

I understand there is a balance but it seems like priority should be main team but cash generation will help in the long term....Just my musings
 
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T43597 said:
As a priority in terms of strategy - do you fix your bench early on or do you focus all 3 (4 if boosting) trades on starting lineup? I know that strategy really depends on what is in front of you but im wondering if i should 'fix' Buzelis or focus on the rest of my team with my trades? I think this is my 3rd or 4th season playing and first season i remember spending too much effort trying to 'fix' my bench and generate cash but then the original rookies i had came good and it ended up being a waste of trades.

The trade off i guess is whether you go for say 1 less game on court for a starter and help your cash generation with a decent bench cash cow/rookie OR do you just go with the maximum games on court and leave bench almost as is until potentially much later/if at all. I guess its a big decision this season given most popular (bench) rookies arent performing well early on so making trades for cash generation may be more worthwhile?

I understand there is a balance but it seems like priority should be main team but cash generation will help in the long term....Just my musings
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It's a tough balance ....

- I generally first and foremost focus my trades around on field players ... can also generate cash this way too
- but when the game counts etc allow I will tweak my bench if I see a rookie I like with a great BE
- rookie wise I'm watching Waters, Mogbo, Carrington, Roddy etc
 
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It's a tough balance ....

- I generally first and foremost focus my trades around on field players ...
- but when the game counts etc allow I will tweak my bench if I see a rookie I like with a great BE
- rookie wise I'm watching Waters, Mogbo, Carrington, Roddy etc
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Thanks for your response.

I guess 'keeping the faith' with bench rookies is probably a good idea generally but someone like Buzelis who just looks terrible could be an exception where 'sacrificing' an on-field trade to get in a hot rookie with a much better role and who will generate lots more cash is the % move. I definitely agree that you look at starting team first and planning ahead to maximise games on court can potentially give you a situation where you can afford to do a 'luxury' bench trade like Buzelis > Cash cow

Like you said, a tough balance. Food for thought
 
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T43597 said:
As a priority in terms of strategy - do you fix your bench early on or do you focus all 3 (4 if boosting) trades on starting lineup? I know that strategy really depends on what is in front of you but im wondering if i should 'fix' Buzelis or focus on the rest of my team with my trades? I think this is my 3rd or 4th season playing and first season i remember spending too much effort trying to 'fix' my bench and generate cash but then the original rookies i had came good and it ended up being a waste of trades.

The trade off i guess is whether you go for say 1 less game on court for a starter and help your cash generation with a decent bench cash cow/rookie OR do you just go with the maximum games on court and leave bench almost as is until potentially much later/if at all. I guess its a big decision this season given most popular (bench) rookies arent performing well early on so making trades for cash generation may be more worthwhile?

I understand there is a balance but it seems like priority should be main team but cash generation will help in the long term....Just my musings
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Early season it helps if you get the rookies right but i would still prioritize fixture for on field players
if you can look at it in 3 week blocks and youre only bringing in guys coming into 4/4/4 then by the 2nd/3rd week you will have a spare trade that can be used on a rookie fix up.
and like you said yourself sometimes the best rookies that you started with eventually get playing time and come good, Front office just has to give the veteran the first weeks as starter until the rookie "earns" starter spot
the other thing you can do with dead rookies:
eg Reed Sheppard sitting doing nothing and you might want Carrington/Waters/Black
i have Jordan Hawkins who plays 3 games next week, and im likely to trade sheppard, move hawkins to bench and bring in one of those rookies
 
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Early season it helps if you get the rookies right but i would still prioritize fixture for on field players
if you can look at it in 3 week blocks and youre only bringing in guys coming into 4/4/4 then by the 2nd/3rd week you will have a spare trade that can be used on a rookie fix up.
and like you said yourself sometimes the best rookies that you started with eventually get playing time and come good, Front office just has to give the veteran the first weeks as starter until the rookie "earns" starter spot
the other thing you can do with dead rookies:
eg Reed Sheppard sitting doing nothing and you might want Carrington/Waters/Black
i have Jordan Hawkins who plays 3 games next week, and im likely to trade sheppard, move hawkins to bench and bring in one of those rookies
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Awesome write up and I agree with the rookie strategy ...

One thing I might add is:
- I generally won't hold a player for more than 2 consecutive 4 game rounds ...
- ie Harden with an upcoming 4,4,4,4 schedule is highly unlikely to play them all or if he does "might" be at a reduced capacity ... looks great on paper though ..
- ie Sabonis as well is looming on a 4,4,4 schedule (including this round) ... if I had him though I might run the gauntlet but would probably err on the side of caution look to bail before the last round

I'm no expert but it is just the way I play it ...
- just a couple of examples ... there are plenty of others

So for example ... I'll be looking (planning) to trade Cunningham and Ivey out of my team in round 4 ...
- caveat is if they haven't missed a game heading into it ..
 
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One thing I might add is:
- I generally won't hold a player for more than 2 consecutive 4 game rounds ...
- ie Harden with an upcoming 4,4,4,4 schedule is highly unlikely to play them all or if he does "might" be at a reduced capacity ... looks great on paper though ..
- ie Sabonis as well is looming on a 4,4,4 schedule (including this round) ... if I had him though I might run the gauntlet but would probably err on the side of caution look to bail before the last round
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Fun Fact: Sabonis played all 82 regular season games last year.
 
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Awesome write up and I agree with the rookie strategy ...

One thing I might add is:
- I generally won't hold a player for more than 2 consecutive 4 game rounds ...
- ie Harden with an upcoming 4,4,4,4 schedule is highly unlikely to play them all or if he does "might" be at a reduced capacity ... looks great on paper though ..
- ie Sabonis as well is looming on a 4,4,4 schedule (including this round) ... if I had him though I might run the gauntlet but would probably err on the side of caution look to bail before the last round

I'm no expert but it is just the way I play it ...
- just a couple of examples ... there are plenty of others

So for example ... I'll be looking (planning) to trade Cunningham and Ivey out of my team in round 4 ...
- caveat is if they haven't missed a game heading into it ..
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yeh that why i said 3 week blocks, Hardens 4/4/4/4 looks good on paper
but im only concerned with his 1st b2b in week 3, wk 4 no b2b and then wk 5 the b2b is going into 1st game of week so pivot trade if he sits.
although who to.. wk5 light on (only 8 teams on 4 game week)
not as concerned for young guys and b2b's
i have actually targeted midprice young guys with b2b's in the past for minutes boost they recieve when veterens sit out
 
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yeh that why i said 3 week blocks, Hardens 4/4/4/4 looks good on paper
but im only concerned with his 1st b2b in week 3, wk 4 no b2b and then wk 5 the b2b is going into 1st game of week so pivot trade if he sits.
although who to.. wk5 light on (only 8 teams on 4 game week)
not as concerned for young guys and b2b's
i have actually targeted midprice young guys with b2b's in the past for minutes boost they recieve when veterens sit out
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I like it all ...
- having a plan and being flexible tends to work out well in this game ...
- interesting and agree about the young guys ...

My regret is no Braun thus far ...
-but it is hard to nail them all ...
 
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No on field players tomorrow ...

- but will be watching with interest for some of them
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Moreso for draft formats and waiver wire grabs but Sochan deserves some attention. Picked him up earlier this week thanks to his dual position status in Sleeper. Price may be a tad high in Sportsdeck but the dual position status (PG and PF) could come in handy.
 
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Looking ahead to RD3, New York go on a run of 4,4,3,4 so Karl Anthony-Towns may be an option for those like myself that passed on Jokic or others looking for a cheaper option at the PF/C position (currently $15,010,000). Thibodeau with a reputation for playing his starters heavy minutes, so a tad more predictable than other sides.

Another I have plenty of time for is Josh Hart who could help fill a difficult SG/SF spot but may be a bit too expensive in this format but a must in draft formats if he is still on the waiver wire.
 
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Ended up updating the Sarr out to Rissacher. Bypassing Doncic looks good after one game but Jokic was the one I was most worried about. Sabonis (C) and Wembanyama off to a solid start. Could have grabbed C Wallace over D Daniels to fund Jokic over Sabonis and field Black in the process but decided against it. Will be very interesting to see the points differential after RD3.

On that note, fantastic to see Black off to a great start this season.
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218 with Holmgren and Harden left to complete the first lap.
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456 with two laps to go from everyone. Need some big performances from Holmgren and Harden on three along with Sabonis (C) and Wemby to limit the damage done by Jokic owners since I cannot fully capitalise on Barnes owners. Did consider DeRozan and Jokic over Sabonis and Wembanyama but was concerned about Demar’s role and usage in his new side and wanted a greater sample. Also placed a bit too much confidence in Sabonis/Wemby and that I could take on Nikola and perhaps use the funds more wisely.
 
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Looking ahead to RD3, New York go on a run of 4,4,3,4 so Karl Anthony-Towns may be an option for those like myself that passed on Jokic or others looking for a cheaper option at the PF/C position (currently $15,010,000). Thibodeau with a reputation for playing his starters heavy minutes, so a tad more predictable than other sides.

Another I have plenty of time for is Josh Hart who could help fill a difficult SG/SF spot but may be a bit too expensive in this format but a must in draft formats if he is still on the waiver wire.
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have had KAT on watchlist since pre season expecting rebounds to increase not sharing court with Gobert
another 2 cheapies for the tricky SF spot that havent had good schedule yet..
Bilal Coulibaly SF/SG- washington
Nikola Jovic SF/PF - Miami
 
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