Opinion 2024 AFL SuperCoach Planning Thread
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I must be missing something but is it not a disadvantage having a bye round early on and having the remainder of the season without a break around the traditional bye rounds/time? Don't most clubs/(players?) enjoy the week off later in the year to rest a bit just to get them through to the end of the year?
Misky, the normal bye still applies over Rounds 12-15.
The teams that play in Round 0 (the round before Round1
) will have a bye from Rounds 2 to Round 6. I'd say this would advantage the teams that have their bye in Round 5 or 6 more than anyone else (as they will have played 5 or 6 games by then) but don't really see it being fair on the clubs that play two or three games before their bye, they might only just be getting their groove and then get rewarded with a week off!
The teams that play in Round 0 (the round before Round1
) will have a bye from Rounds 2 to Round 6. I'd say this would advantage the teams that have their bye in Round 5 or 6 more than anyone else (as they will have played 5 or 6 games by then) but don't really see it being fair on the clubs that play two or three games before their bye, they might only just be getting their groove and then get rewarded with a week off!
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Agree. Multi-byes over 3 rounds was bad enough and now it has morphed into 4 rounds for a second consecutive year. I understand the rationale for the opening round and the implications of that but having 4 weeks during the middle of the season where footy feels like it goes into a hiatus is ridiculous in my view.
I heard a suggestion last year that after Melb play Coll on KBD Monday then all teams be given a bye that next weekend and then resumes either the Wed or Thu of the following week. That seemed like a good idea to me. Sure we have a footy free weekend but at least things are back to normal quickly and we don’t have to endure the torturous month of the MBRs.
I heard a suggestion last year that after Melb play Coll on KBD Monday then all teams be given a bye that next weekend and then resumes either the Wed or Thu of the following week. That seemed like a good idea to me. Sure we have a footy free weekend but at least things are back to normal quickly and we don’t have to endure the torturous month of the MBRs.
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My disillusionment with the AFL's decision making becomes greater with each passing year it seems, just making things far too complicated/ so many bye rounds. There is a lot to be said for the old KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) method ... maybe I am just too old school/ set in my ways
But my enthusiasm for the game is slipping unfortunately, hopefully that will change as the season gets closer but this fixture release didn't impress at all tbh
But my enthusiasm for the game is slipping unfortunately, hopefully that will change as the season gets closer but this fixture release didn't impress at all tbh
My disillusionment with the AFL's decision making becomes greater with each passing year it seems, just making things far too complicated/ so many bye rounds. There is a lot to be said for the old KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) method ... maybe I am just too old school/ set in my ways
But my enthusiasm for the game is slipping unfortunately, hopefully that will change as the season gets closer but this fixture release didn't impress at all tbh
But my enthusiasm for the game is slipping unfortunately, hopefully that will change as the season gets closer but this fixture release didn't impress at all tbh
As an aside, I've always thought it'd be great to have a comp where you load up a new full starting 22 each week (within the relevant salary cap) and your total team score accumulates over the whole season. Would take a hellava lot more time Kinda the opposite of lock and load
Kinda the opposite of lock and load
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My disillusionment with the AFL's decision making becomes greater with each passing year it seems, just making things far too complicated/ so many bye rounds. There is a lot to be said for the old KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) method ... maybe I am just too old school/ set in my ways
But my enthusiasm for the game is slipping unfortunately, hopefully that will change as the season gets closer but this fixture release didn't impress at all tbh
But my enthusiasm for the game is slipping unfortunately, hopefully that will change as the season gets closer but this fixture release didn't impress at all tbh
So we will have best 18 scoring for 5 of the first 7 rounds (inc Round Zero which is now abbrev to RZ for me)? SC did it for the 2 game bye round this year and assume they will continue with that scoring method.
And on that subject I agree the 2 game bye Rd 13 seems silly. AFL adding RZ this year and the 2 game bye last year is just dragging season out to make more money. Always comes back to that. But didn't they expand the Big Bash to squeeze every drop out it and the response was not good? Maybe I am too old school. I like KISS.
Well how about this? Seriously reduced number of season trades eg 20, no boost trade function and best 18 every week. The byes are making things more and more complicated as SC try to work out patches around the mess. Sounds just like the AFL who are constantly tweaking rules after they made a rule change to fix a problem - all they do is create a different problem.
So why not just ignore the byes altogether and go back to a simple system where trades once again become something to value. Maybe crazy or maybe not.
So why not just ignore the byes altogether and go back to a simple system where trades once again become something to value. Maybe crazy or maybe not.
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Why have they lost value and if that seems to be the common attitude, then isn’t it self inflicted? If less value is associated with a trade then players are more likely to make unnecessary trades because they overpaid for perceived safety in points production or overkill in a value setup. Either way no responsibility is taken, incessant moaning continues because they are under the illusion that perfection is paramount in fantasy sports and the 50-50 decisions will always go our way.
Those that will be advocating for greatly decreased trades will sook the moment after a few of their premiums are injured in the opening rounds, their $600,000+ players average sub 100 over the opening month, rookie situation is dire and threaten giving up because it isn’t fun anymore. Further compounds those poor or “unlucky” decisions and provides less wriggle room.
Decreasing the size from 30 players to closer to 23 or an increase in the salary cap I feel would be more likely than a great reduction in trades. Compared to other sports, it seems uncommon for rookies to receive a clear and large role in a side that is fantasy conducive. Low time on ground, low time in their best position and then the coaching staff seem to be surprised by the poor contribution. More minutes go elsewhere cause remember two-three years ago when Player X had their only good season and thus have excess tickets to burn.
Those twenty trade seasons are very unlikely to ever return.
Those that will be advocating for greatly decreased trades will sook the moment after a few of their premiums are injured in the opening rounds, their $600,000+ players average sub 100 over the opening month, rookie situation is dire and threaten giving up because it isn’t fun anymore. Further compounds those poor or “unlucky” decisions and provides less wriggle room.
Decreasing the size from 30 players to closer to 23 or an increase in the salary cap I feel would be more likely than a great reduction in trades. Compared to other sports, it seems uncommon for rookies to receive a clear and large role in a side that is fantasy conducive. Low time on ground, low time in their best position and then the coaching staff seem to be surprised by the poor contribution. More minutes go elsewhere cause remember two-three years ago when Player X had their only good season and thus have excess tickets to burn.
Those twenty trade seasons are very unlikely to ever return.
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Does it really matter when we are notified and it will it make a significant difference?
How would it assist people with their team planning prior to December opening for subscribers if positional changes, pricing and any other game changes have yet to be announced?
Wouldn’t it be preferable for as much time to be taken to possibly consult affected parties or for great consideration?
How would it assist people with their team planning prior to December opening for subscribers if positional changes, pricing and any other game changes have yet to be announced?
Wouldn’t it be preferable for as much time to be taken to possibly consult affected parties or for great consideration?
Not sure why the Hawks get the premier and another top 4 side (GWS) among their 6 double ups when they finish 3rd last. Seems fair.
Despite that, I don't mind the draw overall, it is better than a few other recent years. It doesn't worry me that the Hawks get 0 Thurs/Fri games, and others get up to 8 in the first 15 rounds. Everyone knows Ch. 7 are the ones that pick those games for ratings, so makes sense for the Hawks and Eagles to miss out (the Roos still managed a few prime time games somehow). I am more likely to switch off when my team isn't playing and the game is boring, and as BT calls these games, less is better!
Byes suck. Teams playing in the opening round get an early rest thats others don't which should help them, especially those with Rd 5/6 byes. It will be interesting to see though, as last year a lot of teams lost coming off the bye, so it may actually disadvantage them. Initial thoughts are 9 bye rounds are going to really mess with SC. Any word yet on how these will be handled in SC, or all just speculation so far? Guessing the latter.
The post was left field suggestion to resolve what appears to potentially be a very messy 2024 SC season. However whatever will be will be as far as SC is concerned. They will make a decision and we can take it or leave as we see fit.
As far as the value of trades goes IMO the value of a trade to the user increases as they have less. That is why I believe coaches become less inclined to use them as they become a scare resource towards the end of the season. At the beginning they are more likely to trade hard as they have plenty in hand (or so they think). So I think the less trades, the more coaches will think harder about using them. But would we ever go back to a 20 trade season? No I doubt it.
As far as the value of trades goes IMO the value of a trade to the user increases as they have less. That is why I believe coaches become less inclined to use them as they become a scare resource towards the end of the season. At the beginning they are more likely to trade hard as they have plenty in hand (or so they think). So I think the less trades, the more coaches will think harder about using them. But would we ever go back to a 20 trade season? No I doubt it.
