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I understand that sportspeople have anxiety and depression, but I always wonder whether if it is a result of having never truly had a rounded experience of the world around them?

It’s not an easy thing for people to have their every move questioned or commented on, but you hope that the support base around these guys allow for time to have a bit of normality in their lives away from cricket.

In most sports, the top bracket players need a bit of arrogance or inflated sense of self to pull off some of the miraculous things that they can do, but when it doesn’t necessarily come straight away or they put too much thought (or obsessiveness as Weatherald puts forward) it can lead to narrow minded thinking and not enjoying the things around you.

Sorry for the ramble, just something I notice about the increasing trend for cricketers mentioning depression and anxiety. Feel that sportsmen these days aren’t quite as ‘rounded’ in their experiences as previous eras

 

[Professor]

Can anybody with Twitter enquire with Adelaide Strikers respectfully re: Weatherald’s availability?

I had no luck on Facebook Messenger..

I've sent them a DM, hopefully they get back to me.

 

[That Negative Guy]

I understand that sportspeople have anxiety and depression, but I always wonder whether if it is a result of having never truly had a rounded experience of the world around them?

Without trying to seem offensive – [and here's a warning: some people will actually get offended... Just try to remember, it's merely an opinion] – I know why people suffer from depression nowadays... It's because they have a lack of truth. Understanding and believing the truth should never lead anyone into depression. In fact, it's actually sin that causes this anxiety.

You may think I sound arrogant, insensitive, ignorant, or stuck-up by saying this. You might say: "Hey, look at this stupid Christian here! As if he'd preach this "good-message"-crap to his face." Well, actually, I tell a lot of people this, and I get mixed responses. Some people cancel my right to a voice by blocking me; some people actually thank me for being so blunt. I'm just sticking by the saying: "The truth shall set you free!"

 

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[Shaunpro1]

I'd like to have an Adelaide player benched, preferably on every position. There is TWO D.G.W.s back-to-back for the Strikers, so, when you think about, with a bye in the first round and the fact that we'll also have to be focused on getting enough Hurricanes involved, as they have the same D.G.W., it becomes obvious we need to have at least 2 Strikers on our bench. But who? I'll break down Adelaide's full squad:

Asides from the first game, I don't think Nielsen gets a single game after that – with Carey there. As far as Carey goes, I think he costs too much money to have benched – especially since he'll miss the first game of the D.G.W.. With these two ruled out, it means we can't possibly start with 3 Strikers benched. Unless, of course, you double up in the batting or bowling section – which I think is stupid, as you need to test a player with the bench-loophole. Salt, Wells, Siddle, Briggs: all a little too pricey for their input. Don't see too much value there. I also believe Rashid Khan is way too much to have benched. Harry Conway and O’Connor are both decent options, but they probably won't get a game. Head is unavailable until the end of the tournament. Neser is unknown, also due to Australia and Australia A duties.

That leaves our decent options all the way down to Wes Agar, Weatherald, Renshaw, Short, and Worrall – all could work in some way or another, in my opinion. But here's where it gets sketchy: ...

Agar is $150K – (definitely on the pricey side) – Weatherald is $122K, but also with the unknown of his mental health and lack of recent cricket under his belt; Renshaw is $137K – (again, also on the pricey side, and you could just spend $13K more to get Agar) – lastly, there’s Short and Worrall... But let’s be honest: they're hacks. I don't even think I'd even USE Short for his double game in Round 2 – (just keep him on the bench) – and Worrall has never done anything to warrant our faith for a massive score. I think, out of these, Renshaw and Agar seem to be the best options here.

Of course, there's the option of picking Hurricanes players instead, alternatively benching the likes of Ellis, McDermott, Wright, or Handscomb... But with no bye in the first week and with only one D.G.W. compared to Adelaide's two, it's obvious that it's better to have Strikers there instead. What do you guys think? Who are you running with?

You'll essentially have 6 trades to get Strikers if you start all the Hurricanes players you want (which everyone should be doing really...) not sure there's any more than 6 that are relevant to require starting any of them on the bench.

 

[stephen]

Without trying to seem offensive – [and here's a warning: some people will actually get offended... Just try to remember, it's merely an opinion] – I know why people suffer from depression nowadays... It's because they have a lack of truth. Understanding and believing the truth should never lead anyone into depression. In fact, it's actually sin that causes this anxiety.

You may think I sound arrogant, insensitive, ignorant, or stuck-up by saying this. You might say: "Hey, look at this stupid Christian here! As if he'd preach this "good-message"-crap to his face." Well, actually, I tell a lot of people this, and I get mixed responses. Some people cancel my right to a voice by blocking me; some people actually thank me for being so blunt. I'm just sticking by the saying: "The truth shall set you free!"

It's an an incredibly ignorant and harmful viewpoint, which is why it should be challenged publicly and why people have every right to block you to avoid having it thrust upon them. They are not cancelling you by doing so, they are merely exercising their right not to listen to you. Foisting blame upon people for their mental health struggles, whether in the name of 'sin' or weakness or any of the other nonsense that has clouded sensible discussion of it throughout history, discourages people from speaking honestly about it and seeking help. It has the capacity to do great harm. You should educate yourself about it if you intend to continue to comment on it, whether on fantasy forums or in person.

 

[That Negative Guy]

You'll essentially have 6 trades to get Strikers if you start all the Hurricanes players you want (which everyone should be doing really...) not sure there's any more than 6 that are relevant to require starting any of them on the bench.

Well, I believe Rashid Khan is a great pick, so is Carey, Agar, Weatherald, Renshaw, Salt, Head and Neser – the latter two juggling with tricky international duties. But, yeah, I believe you can pick 6 relevant Strikers.

I like to get ahead of those 2 D.G.W.s for the Strikers, because I typically save those early trades mending players with poor form, or for who are injured, or for who are called up internationally, or for other mishaps like weather-problems.

I won't be using 6 on pure Strikers, by the way – some will be Hurricanes.

 

[mike89]

I understand that sportspeople have anxiety and depression, but I always wonder whether if it is a result of having never truly had a rounded experience of the world around them?

It’s not an easy thing for people to have their every move questioned or commented on, but you hope that the support base around these guys allow for time to have a bit of normality in their lives away from cricket.

In most sports, the top bracket players need a bit of arrogance or inflated sense of self to pull off some of the miraculous things that they can do, but when it doesn’t necessarily come straight away or they put too much thought (or obsessiveness as Weatherald puts forward) it can lead to narrow minded thinking and not enjoying the things around you.

Sorry for the ramble, just something I notice about the increasing trend for cricketers mentioning depression and anxiety. Feel that sportsmen these days aren’t quite as ‘rounded’ in their experiences as previous eras

Interesting you should say that, because I feel like it's largely gone the other way, especially since the early days of professionalism. Think about how pervasive the "if you're resting, someone else is working to get past you" attitude was even ten years ago, and compare it to how many elite sportspeople have outside interests now, whether that be studies, business interests, or anything else really. It'll never be the same as amateurs who really just played for the love of it, but I think generally speaking it is tending back in a healthier direction.

 

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[That Negative Guy]

Stephen, as I said before, it's just an opinion. No need to think I'm deliberately causing any harm. You shouldn't view opinions as harmful – in fact, saying THAT can itself be harmful, as you strip people's right to a voice. That can lead to riots, as we've seen throughout history.

Yes, people have the right to block me, but how insecure must that be? Sometimes, I hear people spew their opinions that I find destructive and harmful – (possibly even your comment, for that instance, but let's not start a fight) – but that doesn't mean I've EVER blocked anyone for purely having a flippin' opinion. I actually think the popular opinion on depression is incredibly harmful – it leads people astray from God!

My "blame" I've apparently shifted to others (which I haven't) comes from a Biblical standpoint. I'm sorry... But was believing God's Word a crime now? Funny that you use the Biblical viewpoint as something that has "clouded sensible discussion" and then arrogantly tell me to "educate" myself. Sounds like you're an Atheist... Anyway... Has depression actually been Scientifically proven to be existent? It's not something visible that can be dealt with – it comes from the mind. This is what Scripture teaches, and you attacking my point of view, you're essentially saying that millions upon millions of people out there are wrong. Probably even some people in this forum. Now that sounds rather arrogant, don't you think?

Doctors don't prescribe certain pills that actually attack "depression" by itself – all they do is prescribe pills that let them relax; it keeps their mind off it. I actually have educated myself on this – in fact, it's literally what I do.

I don't mean to come off insensitive or arrogant – (can't say the same about you) – but some people don't like it when we talk about other things on specific threads, such as B.B.L.S.C.. So, if you want to talk about it further with me, I suggest you talk with me elsewhere, O.K.?

 

[Herbie66]

So he’s fit? 🙂

Apparently , I can't find anything on Google , but I think it was Ultra marathons or a charity run from Adelaide - Darwin.

Memory seems to recall it was back to back marathon distance walk/run for a significant time.

 

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Interesting you should say that, because I feel like it's largely gone the other way, especially since the early days of professionalism. Think about how pervasive the "if you're resting, someone else is working to get past you" attitude was even ten years ago, and compare it to how many elite sportspeople have outside interests now, whether that be studies, business interests, or anything else really. It'll never be the same as amateurs who really just played for the love of it, but I think generally speaking it is tending back in a healthier direction.

Im talking 25+ years ago more so. A lot of professional sportsmen back in the day had regular jobs and lives in between their matches and tours which gave them a bit of balance and perspective.

The nature of sport these days means that guys are living and breathing the sport. Yes, some guys are doing study and running businesses on the side, but that’s more to do with the advent of the internet making it a lot easier to juggle those sorts of things.

 

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[That Negative Guy]

Head and Neser both likely unavailable, Carey only really a Round 3 trade in, Agar priced based on one good season, Laughlin is 38 now and hardly played any cricket in 12 months so a slow start and/or management becomes a concern, Weatherald no idea if he'll see out the tournament, Renshaws output last year was largely boosted by bowling which isn't going to happen in a side with two class spinners, really not sure Strikers are the must haves to load up on that everyone has been making out, theres Salt,Carey,Khan,Siddle and Briggs and maybe Wells if you want to bank on a middle order player at top price I have question marks on anyone else myself feel like the Hurricanes have better options.

Well, someone's got to do well! Unless you're saying Strikers will lose every game, their team should muster plenty of points us SuperCoaches to take advantage of. We just have to work out who we plomp on the bench. The reason why people are making out the Strikers as must-haves is because of their consecutive D.G.W.s following Round 1.

 

[jaca]

Without trying to seem offensive – [and here's a warning: some people will actually get offended... Just try to remember, it's merely an opinion] – I know why people suffer from depression nowadays... It's because they have a lack of truth. Understanding and believing the truth should never lead anyone into depression. In fact, it's actually sin that causes this anxiety.

You may think I sound arrogant, insensitive, ignorant, or stuck-up by saying this. You might say: "Hey, look at this stupid Christian here! As if he'd preach this "good-message"-crap to his face." Well, actually, I tell a lot of people this, and I get mixed responses. Some people cancel my right to a voice by blocking me; some people actually thank me for being so blunt. I'm just sticking by the saying: "The truth shall set you free!"

I believe in the truth. It’s called science. It also goes a lot further to explain why some of us (more than you may ever realise) suffer from mental health challenges.

 

[That Negative Guy]

I believe in the truth. It’s called science. It also goes a lot further to explain why some of us (more than you may ever realise) suffer from mental health challenges.

Hehe. Well, as a Theologian, I've actually disproven Science. Well, I haven't, but a famous Theologian I aspire to be named Gordon Clark did. He pointed out the 5 fallacies of Science, proving it to be incapable of proving anything. They used to be known to everyone in public schools. Sadly, teachers don't recite them anymore, and certain people who call themselves Atheists think they know everything now.

I could talk about those fallacies, but the admins won't like it if I talk about it here – this is a B.B.L.S.C. Discussion Threat after all!

 

[Shaunpro1]

Can give me a spell with the legitimacy of mental illness on a SuperCoach forum, can we get back on topic already?

 

[7/11]

Can give me a spell with the legitimacy of mental illness on a SuperCoach forum, can we get back on topic already?

I apologise for clearing the way for that, wasn’t expecting it to kick off in the direction it went.

Currently looking at this for my starting team:

Fletcher (Philippe)
Maxwell, Ingram, Jacks, Christian, Khawaja (Nielsen , Pfeffer)
D.Short, Zampa, Coulter-Nile, Hussain, Milne (Wildermuth, W.Parker)