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[realashley12]

Personally I reckon the Canes will go with a default spinner, probably at the expense of Moody from the above listed lineup. That could be either Lamichane when he is available, or Wil Parker.

Hurricanes are a team that went with two spinners pretty much every game last season in Clive Rose and Qais Ahmed (I think the only game they didn't was vs Scorchers at Optus) so I doubt they will now decide to go with an all out pace attack without a frontline spin option.

7. Faulkner
8. Ellis
9. Meredith
10. Boland
11. Spinner

Because of this, I think Jacks is going to bowl very few overs (I'd say they look for Short to average an over or two a game), and as such will be avoiding him for my competitions.

 

[Herbie66]

Big Denly vibes. I remember Denly taking 4 against SL and thinking he was going to be a perfect pick lol

I must be missing something obvious about him , priced at $ 148 k as well.

Think I will pass.

Good luck to him if he does well.

Probably another one who suffers the Englishman BBL batting curse.

I ended up picking Denly for the same reason , think he finally bowled a over after I traded him out.

 

[Young gun]

I must be missing something obvious about him , priced at $ 148 k as well.

Think I will pass.

Good luck to him if he does well.

Probably another one who suffers the Englishman BBL batting curse.

I ended up picking Denly for the same reason , think he finally bowled a over after I traded him out.

Something going for him is he has played here before, like Lawrence though it was against weaker attacks

 

[Ben's Beasts]

What is appealing to me about Jacks is until Lamichhane arrives he will be the Canes number 1 spinner. I don’t know who was in his previous teams in T20’s but perhaps he was in the same team as a specialist spinner?

 

[mike89]

What is appealing to me about Jacks is until Lamichhane arrives he will be the Canes number 1 spinner. I don’t know who was in his previous teams in T20’s but perhaps he was in the same team as a specialist spinner?

I've just looked at some scorecards from the last Blast - Surrey's captain in the season just gone was the journeyman spinner Gareth Batty. Still going around at 43 - who does he think he is, Brad Hogg?

 

[7/11]

Now I am intrigued by Jacks

Bowled 2 overs in the 2018 Vitality Blast

Bowled 1 over in the 2019 T20 Cup

any knowledge of a injury that prevented him bowling more ? more opportunities ? etc etc

only bowled a complete 4 overs in 4 of the 11 games he bowled this season.

I liken him to Renshaw. Played a season or two in the big bash before he got his chance at bowling regularly. Most likely due to being a youngster who was a specialist batsman, and then practised a lot in the nets and ‘convinced’ the captain to try him.

The more I look at the scoring changes and rule changes (power play for first 4 overs instead of 6), it makes Jacks less appealing. Means he’s less likely to bowl that all important 3rd over if things aren’t going well. Short is more likely to be used through the middle as an attacking option (Hurricanes don’t have a lot of penetration apart from Meredith).

In my opinion, the lack of a specialist spinner in the squad makes starting Short even more important. Think he’ll bowl 3-4 overs often this season.

 

[The Myth]

I liken him to Renshaw. Played a season or two in the big bash before he got his chance at bowling regularly. Most likely due to being a youngster who was a specialist batsman, and then practised a lot in the nets and ‘convinced’ the captain to try him.

The more I look at the scoring changes and rule changes (power play for first 4 overs instead of 6), it makes Jacks less appealing. Means he’s less likely to bowl that all important 3rd over if things aren’t going well. Short is more likely to be used through the middle as an attacking option (Hurricanes don’t have a lot of penetration apart from Meredith).

In my opinion, the lack of a specialist spinner in the squad makes starting Short even more important. Think he’ll bowl 3-4 overs often this season.

Whilst the power play rule may hurt Jacks, the x-factor I think helps him.

When they are fielding first I think it encourages the captain to try his options, if Jacks is economical/takes a wicket in his one, whilst one of the pace boys (e.g. Boland, Moody) gets whacked, then they may bring an extra batter and rely on Jacks/Short to make up the overs.

When they are batting first if they have a little collapse, they again, may substitute an extra batter in for one of the bowlers - Short and Jacks again make up the overs.

He’s going to be a divisive pick and I think it really comes down to who’s on the team sheet at coin toss.

 

[7/11]

Whilst the power play rule may hurt Jacks, the x-factor I think helps him.

When they are fielding first I think it encourages the captain to try his options, if Jacks is economical/takes a wicket in his one, whilst one of the pace boys (e.g. Boland, Moody) gets whacked, then they may bring an extra batter and rely on Jacks/Short to make up the overs.

When they are batting first if they have a little collapse, they again, may substitute an extra batter in for one of the bowlers - Short and Jacks again make up the overs.

He’s going to be a divisive pick and I think it really comes down to who’s on the team sheet at coin toss.

Can’t see Boland getting subbed out, he and Ellis did a fairly decent job last season at the death.

I expect their team to look something like this:

Short
Mac Wright
Jacks
Ingram
McDermott
Handscomb
Tim David
Faulkner
Meredith
Ellis
Boland

Either way, Handscomb looks like a trap, Ingram I can’t see batting below 4 and Mac Wright I believe is going to slot somewhere in the top 4 whilst Wade is on international duty.

There’s 4 seamer options. Ellis and Boland will bowl 4 most games. Same as Meredith. Faulkner will be in and out of the team as he will likely be managed meaning the fringe players get a crack.

Jacks and Short would be sharing 4 overs based on the surface information we’ve got, which isn’t great odds for either bowling 3 if the seamers do well.

 

[Herbie66]

I liken him to Renshaw. Played a season or two in the big bash before he got his chance at bowling regularly. Most likely due to being a youngster who was a specialist batsman, and then practised a lot in the nets and ‘convinced’ the captain to try him.

The more I look at the scoring changes and rule changes (power play for first 4 overs instead of 6), it makes Jacks less appealing. Means he’s less likely to bowl that all important 3rd over if things aren’t going well. Short is more likely to be used through the middle as an attacking option (Hurricanes don’t have a lot of penetration apart from Meredith).

In my opinion, the lack of a specialist spinner in the squad makes starting Short even more important. Think he’ll bowl 3-4 overs often this season.

I am thinking the CA directive about Short would well and truly filtered down to the Hurricanes 😉

I still think they might even play 4 + Parker (instead of 5 quick) even before they look at Short and/or Jacks.

The sub factor does then allow them to possibly sub out a quick if they bat first and are 0/100 after 10.

New PP makes it intriguing , you would hope teams actually opt to use specialist bowlers in that 4 over period.

He certainly is causing a lot of discussion.

 

[Damion23]

Bit of change in plans with my player profiles. was taken too long to do. so had to change layouts and format. they now look like this....

thoughts on the change? Better/Worse?

 

[Herbie66]

Something going for him is he has played here before, like Lawrence though it was against weaker attacks

Our 6 day shutdown is being lifted after 3 days , so will head to the Library on Monday and look at some England Lions scorecards.

 

[Diabolical]

Bit of change in plans with my player profiles. was taken too long to do. so had to change layouts and format. they now look like this....

thoughts on the change? Better/Worse?


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I like it. Very easy to read and take in.

 

[Professor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329701262141612033

 

[Tails]

Bit of change in plans with my player profiles. was taken too long to do. so had to change layouts and format. they now look like this....

thoughts on the change? Better/Worse?


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Looks good to me .... great work with the rule change scoring comparisons too ... very helpful

 

[7/11]

I am thinking the CA directive about Short would well and truly filtered down to the Hurricanes 😉

I still think they might even play 4 + Parker (instead of 5 quick) even before they look at Short and/or Jacks.

The sub factor does then allow them to possibly sub out a quick if they bat first and are 0/100 after 10.

New PP makes it intriguing , you would hope teams actually opt to use specialist bowlers in that 4 over period.

He certainly is causing a lot of discussion.

I’m curious to see how batsmen approach the first 4 overs now. Could easily see batsmen like Short or Stoinis opting to play through and not going as hard with their partner trying to go bezerk with an eye on making the most of the power play of 2 overs instead.

 

[Herbie66]

I’m curious to see how batsmen approach the first 4 overs now. Could easily see batsmen like Short or Stoinis opting to play through and not going as hard with their partner trying to go bezerk with an eye on making the most of the power play of 2 overs instead.

I wonder where their now is a actual case for sending in a Narine tactic from seasons gone by for those first 4 and totally throwing the kitchen sink at it.

Like you said Short , Stoinis , Khawaja types will just set to bat through.

I can see SMarsh doing something similar at the Renegades.

No doubt the Heat won't change their gun ho approach (hasn't worked the last 4-5 seasons but let's give it one more try and see if this season we hit every ball for 4)

7 - 12 /14 was that normal "ho hum" period so I wonder if they attack 11 & 12 overs or wait for 15-16 before the main death bowlers come back on.

 

[mike89]

7 - 12 /14 was that normal "ho hum" period so I wonder if they attack 11 & 12 overs or wait for 15-16 before the main death bowlers come back on.

I wouldn't be surprised if most teams take the 2 overs as early as possible. Disrupts the bowling plans by forcing the death bowlers on sooner and if it backfires and results in wickets, around the 12th is when you want a pure striker coming in anyway!

 

[Herbie66]

I wouldn't be surprised if most teams take the 2 overs as early as possible. Disrupts the bowling plans by forcing the death bowlers on sooner and if it backfires and results in wickets, around the 12th is when you want a pure striker coming in anyway!

Can't be taken until the 11th so I guess it will depend on who is at the crease.

Certainly will change up the fielding sides thought process though.

Maybe that's why the Scorchers have 4 openers , hold one back for the second PP

Makes sense now.

A hitter at 4-6 could be extremely handy in 2 overs of PP

 

[7/11]

Can't be taken until the 11th so I guess it will depend on who is at the crease.

Certainly will change up the fielding sides thought process though.

Maybe that's why the Scorchers have 4 openers , hold one back for the second PP

Makes sense now.

A hitter at 4-6 could be extremely handy in 2 overs of PP

Personally would be taking it when a spinner is in their 2nd over of a spell to upset the rhythm. Obviously that’s hard to predict, but it’ll definitely add an extra layer of unpredictability to the matches this season.

 

[Herbie66]

Personally would be taking it when a spinner is in their 2nd over of a spell to upset the rhythm. Obviously that’s hard to predict, but it’ll definitely add an extra layer of unpredictability to the matches this season.

I actually like it , just hope they put some thought in and not just all go over X , Y every single innings , every single game.

Under the right circumstances you could add 30-40 runs in those 2 overs.