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With the introduction of the flex I’d also expect this number to increase.
Good point, it should do.

11 players averaging 55 looks like it would cost 1.787m.

That would leave 213k for 5 bench spots plus 1 flex.

That is obviously not enough to cover those spots, albeit not miles off it, if we used bottom priced players. That may indicate we don’t need a huge amount of cash gen, assuming these 55-averaging players play every round and fit neatly into the on field spots we need them to.

[The initial budget seems relatively generous, certainly relative to AFL SC, for example, in which we may need cash gen of c. 30% of our starting budget to complete a quality team.]

In reality, in BBL we also need to have a high number of score involvements, as well as maintaining the c. 55 average. That is a significant constraint - picking eg Stars and Renegades up front to increase the score involvements may make it harder to simultaneously maintain the 55 average - there simply may not be enough Melbourne players who can score sufficiently highly to do that, or they may be overpriced at the time we need them, or they may not fall neatly into the positions we need them to.

To me this suggests that cash gen is important, but we may not need a really large amount of it.

As it happens that’s probably consistent with my experience. Early cash gen is usually a focus for me, and it is very helpful, but there is a point at which it has diminishing benefits, and sometimes that can be hit relatively quickly if it’s a major priority and some of the cheapies score well early in a given season.
 
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Was just thinking if Usama Mir is not due until December 26 , does that mean Joe Clarke could play Round 2 as well (December 20) as well as Round 1 ?

Theoretically it would only be 3 OS players (he , Curran & Duckett)

If he did , and didn't lose too much in value could be a relatively straight forward trade to Peirson/Philippe in Round 3 and possibly hold onto a Scorcher instead.

Round 1 BE of 78

Historical Average v Scorchers is 39.5 (6 games)

Historical Average v Heat is 56.8 (5 games)

Round 2

Historical Average v Strikers is 60.4

Stars play first in Round 2 so at least we will know , might need to have another keeper Round 1 (aside from Doran) just in case or factor in trading in Inglis (if available and not available Round 1)
 
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Was just thinking if Usama Mir is not due until December 26 , does that mean Joe Clarke could play Round 2 as well (December 20) as well as Round 1 ?

Theoretically it would only be 3 OS players (he , Curran & Duckett)

If he did , and didn't lose too much in value could be a relatively straight forward trade to Peirson/Philippe in Round 3 and possibly hold onto a Scorcher instead.

Round 1 BE of 78

Historical Average v Scorchers is 39.5 (6 games)

Historical Average v Heat is 56.8 (5 games)

Round 2

Historical Average v Strikers is 60.4

Stars play first in Round 2 so at least we will know , might need to have another keeper Round 1 (aside from Doran) just in case or factor in trading in Inglis (if available and not available Round 1)
Lake City Panthers final minor round game is the 21st December.

Qualifier is 23rd , Final is 25th.
 
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Think because hes a replacement he can only play the games Duckett isn't available, feels a ridiculous rule though, surely you maximise internationals wherever possible for the benefit of the standard of the competition.
Not sure

Something in my memory recalls they did something with Rauf when they had Lamichhane and Steyn years ago and the replacement ended up replacing both of them.

Surely he could be Duckett's replacement for Round 1 then replacement for another player when Duckett is available , they still would only end up with 3 OS players in the XI.

Clubs can have up to 7 OS players , just 3 on the primary list at any time , paperwork shouldn't be that difficult.
 
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I think Cox last season played as a replacement player originally for QDK then Clarke when he got injured 🤔 (have to dig out last season's notes)
 
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Stars bowling line-up was confusing enough even before the Milne signing

Thoughts ?

Curran & Milne obviously
2 from Couch , Paris , Steketee (is Siddle just a back-up signing ?)
+ McKenzie

Round 1 Dec 15 & 18
Round 2 Dec 20
Round 3 Dec 26 & 28 (Usama available)

Will Milne be $ 152k or $ 117,5 ?

5 wickets from 12 games when he played for the Thunder , ER 7.57
 
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Stars bowling line-up was confusing enough even before the Milne signing

Thoughts ?

Curran & Milne obviously
2 from Couch , Paris , Steketee (is Siddle just a back-up signing ?)
+ McKenzie

Round 1 Dec 15 & 18
Round 2 Dec 20
Round 3 Dec 26 & 28 (Usama available)
If Webster is released from the Test squad they may even opt for just one of Couch/Paris/Steketee/Siddle.

Bowling options would be Milne, McKenzie, Curran, Webster, Stoinis and one of Couch/Paris/Steketee/Siddle.

Match 1 XI something like this;

Clarke
Rogers
Webster
Stoinis
Cartwright
Kellaway
Harper
Curran
McKenzie
Milne
Couch/Paris/Steketee/Siddle
 
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If Webster is released from the Test squad they may even opt for just one of Couch/Paris/Steketee/Siddle.

Bowling options would be Milne, McKenzie, Curran, Webster, Stoinis and one of Couch/Paris/Steketee/Siddle.

Match 1 XI something like this;

Clarke
Rogers
Webster
Stoinis
Cartwright
Kellaway
Harper
Curran
McKenzie
Milne
Couch/Paris/Steketee/Siddle
I could imagine Webster being released for their Game 2 of the opening round if at all , which will just confuse their line-up even more.

They will still need a "spare" bat as the concussion sub if necessary.

Can't see the point of playing both Kellaway & Harper over another specialist bowler personally , even with Stoinis & possibly Webster as options , Cartwright doesn't seem to bowl much in BBL.

Unless Clarke isn't going to keep.

Let's hope they don't keep picking Merlo like last season.

Was hoping to have a cheap Star bowlers for Round 1 , maybe McKenzie is the safest option (will he bowl all 4 overs @ Optus though ?)

Hopefully the practice game this week gives us a bit more clarity
 
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Herbie,

Give us an idea what you think Adam Milne might be priced at will you please.....................cheers AG
 
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