Discussion EPL Dream Team Discussion - Season 2021/22
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I don't disagree. That's been my philosophy as well, and my first 20 trades will be in 10 weeks.
But the last 2 seasons, we've been given 2 extra trades for the season, and 2 extra trades in a GW (around GW30-32), to prepare for byes & DGs.
In hindsight, I've been wary that I was wasteful with 1-2 trades, and that they would have been extremely handy to have at the latter stages.
It seems a no-brainer to jump onto guys like Pogba, Canos, Sarr, etc, but I'm wondering whether we should be looking elsewhere.
We all want City assets for NOR, but given they flopped against Spurs, they will likely be decreasing in value in GW4.
So do we just let them go through to the keeper, and let price dictate when we grab them, or do we bite the bullet and grab some now, to cover the NOR game, but also to fix another piece of our DT puzzle and use less transfers.
Let's take Cancelo for instance. He's not cheap, but is likely on everyone's DT list, and may rise in price. Not much, but enough to put us off grabbing him now, and that we're missing out on potential pts in the meantime. Now we can get pts & cash with others for now, but then it's an extra 'flip' to get Cancelo later, and that will cost us further down the track when we run out of trades.
But the last 2 seasons, we've been given 2 extra trades for the season, and 2 extra trades in a GW (around GW30-32), to prepare for byes & DGs.
In hindsight, I've been wary that I was wasteful with 1-2 trades, and that they would have been extremely handy to have at the latter stages.
It seems a no-brainer to jump onto guys like Pogba, Canos, Sarr, etc, but I'm wondering whether we should be looking elsewhere.
We all want City assets for NOR, but given they flopped against Spurs, they will likely be decreasing in value in GW4.
So do we just let them go through to the keeper, and let price dictate when we grab them, or do we bite the bullet and grab some now, to cover the NOR game, but also to fix another piece of our DT puzzle and use less transfers.
Let's take Cancelo for instance. He's not cheap, but is likely on everyone's DT list, and may rise in price. Not much, but enough to put us off grabbing him now, and that we're missing out on potential pts in the meantime. Now we can get pts & cash with others for now, but then it's an extra 'flip' to get Cancelo later, and that will cost us further down the track when we run out of trades.
I think you need to take a punt on 2 cheapos this week, but make sure you're dumping 2 players you're 100% certain you don't want.
I don't want Toney, but he got 5 pts for $5m, so isn't exactly a priority to dump. He could easily get a last minute PK next game and score 10 pts.
Meanwhile, I like Vardy for the next 2 games and he did well in GW1. But if he flops or gets injured in GW2, he then could be looking at making a loss for me, so IMO, it's best I wait on transferring a FOR until I'm certain which FOR I want to dump.
I have no need to bring in another DEF, as 4 of mine did really well and they still have great fixtures. But then I see an opportunity for Cancelo, and all of a sudden if feels that is the move I should do this week, to sort out the DEF in full and ensure I can focus my GW3 transfers on sorting out the FORs. Pinnock can get me cash and may do well again, but then eventually, he'll need to be flipped and that's an extra transfer.
With my MIDs, I have Sema and a non-starter. I want Pogba, but who do I dump?
Well the fixtures might decide for me. Sema plays first, so I can bench him. If he flops, I can trade in Pogba for the non-starter, as the non-starter plays last. Then trade out Sema the following week for someone else who's done well. If he does well, I can leave it as is and grab Pogba the following week for the non-starter and keep Sema for profit.
Of course it's not all that simple, as Sema might do well but Pogba can do better, as we saw with Pinnock holders who missed out on Pereira, and Canos holders who missed out on Pogba.
Anyway, a lot of this game comes down to luck. But my point is, don't always be impulsive and move for something that feels a 'no-brainer'. Sometimes, it doesn't offer the best risk/reward.
I don't want Toney, but he got 5 pts for $5m, so isn't exactly a priority to dump. He could easily get a last minute PK next game and score 10 pts.
Meanwhile, I like Vardy for the next 2 games and he did well in GW1. But if he flops or gets injured in GW2, he then could be looking at making a loss for me, so IMO, it's best I wait on transferring a FOR until I'm certain which FOR I want to dump.
I have no need to bring in another DEF, as 4 of mine did really well and they still have great fixtures. But then I see an opportunity for Cancelo, and all of a sudden if feels that is the move I should do this week, to sort out the DEF in full and ensure I can focus my GW3 transfers on sorting out the FORs. Pinnock can get me cash and may do well again, but then eventually, he'll need to be flipped and that's an extra transfer.
With my MIDs, I have Sema and a non-starter. I want Pogba, but who do I dump?
Well the fixtures might decide for me. Sema plays first, so I can bench him. If he flops, I can trade in Pogba for the non-starter, as the non-starter plays last. Then trade out Sema the following week for someone else who's done well. If he does well, I can leave it as is and grab Pogba the following week for the non-starter and keep Sema for profit.
Of course it's not all that simple, as Sema might do well but Pogba can do better, as we saw with Pinnock holders who missed out on Pereira, and Canos holders who missed out on Pogba.
Anyway, a lot of this game comes down to luck. But my point is, don't always be impulsive and move for something that feels a 'no-brainer'. Sometimes, it doesn't offer the best risk/reward.
I need to monitor Gundogan
With my limited knowledge I was prepared to hold Mbeumo & Toney for awhile , I guess I need Toney to rise heaps to get to Kane or Lukaku (have Salah & Vardy) so start scoring some goals
Last minute adjustment I brought in Young & Sema so maybe they go.
Then also how long do we keep Bachmann for ?
So was thinking if Gundogan misses
GW2
Gundogan - > Pogba
Bachmann (maybe) - > Ederson or Schmeichel
Then GW3
reassess Young , Sema & the 2 Brentford boys
Currently have 3 Liverpool , Pereira & Young in defence so probably better off downgrading Young in GW3 if I need too.
With my limited knowledge I was prepared to hold Mbeumo & Toney for awhile , I guess I need Toney to rise heaps to get to Kane or Lukaku (have Salah & Vardy) so start scoring some goals
Last minute adjustment I brought in Young & Sema so maybe they go.
Then also how long do we keep Bachmann for ?
So was thinking if Gundogan misses
GW2
Gundogan - > Pogba
Bachmann (maybe) - > Ederson or Schmeichel
Then GW3
reassess Young , Sema & the 2 Brentford boys
Currently have 3 Liverpool , Pereira & Young in defence so probably better off downgrading Young in GW3 if I need too.
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Cancelo is the one highest on my radar. Because I have Young basically. If I had say Pinnock, then I wouldn’t go there because he has rattled off a great score. I’m not too fussed about rotation knowing I can play 2 defenders if I choose. He’s very likely to come in for me because it’s best of both worlds, one of the better attacking defenders and the high prospects of clean sheets when City get warmed up.
Yeah, Gundy has screwed you not once, but possibly twice. NOR was the carrot in getting a City asset early, and now you may not even get that.
The only positive I see is if Foden starts, and you can do a straight swap. But then it's an opportunity missed to make cash on someone else.
Sounds like we share the front 3. Might have to do like me and wait a week before deciding who goes. At least Kane and Lukaku didn't play so we might have an extra week to decide that. Might cost an extra flip in the meantime though.
Bachmann stays until he can be flipped for someone much better. I think the downside in money and pts is low with him.
Leno might get smashed two more times and then we can possibly flip for him when ARS start their good run. Could be one that can wait until GW4 or later.
I think GW2 can be Gundy to Pogba, or Foden if you want a potential differential. City play before United so you can make that move with certainty once lineups are announced.
Then Young could be your other trade. Pinnock will rise a lot more than one of the GKs will rise, so is a higher priority.
GW3 you can address Sema (if he's still an issue) and Toney or Vardy (if they become an issue or another FOR becomes a priority).
BRE lads had bad games but still managed to return their value. Still excellent bets and just need patience, even though we all want everything NOW.
The only positive I see is if Foden starts, and you can do a straight swap. But then it's an opportunity missed to make cash on someone else.
Sounds like we share the front 3. Might have to do like me and wait a week before deciding who goes. At least Kane and Lukaku didn't play so we might have an extra week to decide that. Might cost an extra flip in the meantime though.
Bachmann stays until he can be flipped for someone much better. I think the downside in money and pts is low with him.
Leno might get smashed two more times and then we can possibly flip for him when ARS start their good run. Could be one that can wait until GW4 or later.
I think GW2 can be Gundy to Pogba, or Foden if you want a potential differential. City play before United so you can make that move with certainty once lineups are announced.
Then Young could be your other trade. Pinnock will rise a lot more than one of the GKs will rise, so is a higher priority.
GW3 you can address Sema (if he's still an issue) and Toney or Vardy (if they become an issue or another FOR becomes a priority).
BRE lads had bad games but still managed to return their value. Still excellent bets and just need patience, even though we all want everything NOW.
You and I are both on the same wavelength with this one. The only downside I see is we invest too much in DEF, and might struggle to get the big gun attackers. But given many didn't play GW1, we have an extra week to move on them.
I also question whether we'll need too many big gun attackers. Most of the consistent scorers seem to be DEF.
Defensive pts against strong sides and attacking pts against weaker sides. Might not be capt options, but they keep the score ticking over and will probably win you more H2Hs.
I also question whether we'll need too many big gun attackers. Most of the consistent scorers seem to be DEF.
Defensive pts against strong sides and attacking pts against weaker sides. Might not be capt options, but they keep the score ticking over and will probably win you more H2Hs.
But you can't get them all in and you can't flip them all. The most he can drop is 400k. But in 3 weeks when he drops a donut and gets a CS, he will spring back with big interest. I just don't see him as a priority. I don't think WAT are that bad that he will get donuts every week.
Transfers used up for GKs should be kept at a bare minimum IMO. Probably 1 or 2 max in a season, and only when it's certain they won't play.
Just like FPL, the new scoring means that GKs are now much of a muchness. Cheap is best value.
Transfers used up for GKs should be kept at a bare minimum IMO. Probably 1 or 2 max in a season, and only when it's certain they won't play.
Just like FPL, the new scoring means that GKs are now much of a muchness. Cheap is best value.
Doh! Well that settles that then. Say hello to Paul.
Yep. It's swings and roundabouts. If they all kept up 20 pts a week, they'd end up with 800 pts.
No one scores that high, so every success means a failure is around the corner.
Similar that no one scores 100 pts in a full season. Every failure means a big score is closer.
Of course there are exceptions, like Torres at CHE, and Morata at CHE, and Werner at CHE. Is there a pattern here?
Yep. It's swings and roundabouts. If they all kept up 20 pts a week, they'd end up with 800 pts.
No one scores that high, so every success means a failure is around the corner.
Similar that no one scores 100 pts in a full season. Every failure means a big score is closer.
Of course there are exceptions, like Torres at CHE, and Morata at CHE, and Werner at CHE. Is there a pattern here?
Early trades are to correct mistakes and to make money
Getting Pogba this week is to make money, and monitor how he goes, unless he keeps pumping good scores, he will eventually turn into DeBruyne
Sancho will be a wait and see, no rush, will lose money at start, then he starts looking decent would consider him
Soucek is on my radar ( was in my team last season and made a handy profit last year until I upgraded him) this season could be a mid lock at some stage
Was hoping Toney would be a Pukki of 2 years ago where made a sizeable profit and then traded him out at the right time, Toney on notice
Remember trading in a cheap Liverpool striker mid season few years back and made a very good profit, Divock Origi, got him after one good game, was feeling in through injuries, and had about 5 good weeks and made about 4 mil
Getting Pogba this week is to make money, and monitor how he goes, unless he keeps pumping good scores, he will eventually turn into DeBruyne
Sancho will be a wait and see, no rush, will lose money at start, then he starts looking decent would consider him
Soucek is on my radar ( was in my team last season and made a handy profit last year until I upgraded him) this season could be a mid lock at some stage
Was hoping Toney would be a Pukki of 2 years ago where made a sizeable profit and then traded him out at the right time, Toney on notice
Remember trading in a cheap Liverpool striker mid season few years back and made a very good profit, Divock Origi, got him after one good game, was feeling in through injuries, and had about 5 good weeks and made about 4 mil
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Fantastic to see so many SCS members get off to great starts and hopefully this continues over the next few rounds.
Current trades:
Out: J Maddison
In: P Pogba
No pressing issues yet and would have preferred to keep Maddison a while longer but he was always dispensable (just like Havertz). Will reassess Sema and Toney after RD2.
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Fantastic to see so many SCS members get off to great starts and hopefully this continues over the next few rounds.
Current trades:
Out: J Maddison
In: P Pogba
No pressing issues yet and would have preferred to keep Maddison a while longer but he was always dispensable (just like Havertz). Will reassess Sema and Toney after RD2.