Discussion EPL Dream Team Discussion - Season 2022/23
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Opening dates per posts from the previous season threads (has now been split by season rather than one combined thread)
2016/2017= Game opens on 29th of July for a season start on 13th August
2017/2018= Game opens on 19th of July for a season start on 11th August
2018/2019= Game opens on 28th of July for a season start on 10th August
2019/2020= Game opens on 9th of July for a season start on 9th August
2020/2021= Game opens on 2nd of September for a season start on 12th September
2021/2022= Game opens on 22nd of July for a season start on 13th August
2022/2023= Per @vsberlina above
Expectation would be between tomorrow and next Sunday.
2016/2017= Game opens on 29th of July for a season start on 13th August
2017/2018= Game opens on 19th of July for a season start on 11th August
2018/2019= Game opens on 28th of July for a season start on 10th August
2019/2020= Game opens on 9th of July for a season start on 9th August
2020/2021= Game opens on 2nd of September for a season start on 12th September
2021/2022= Game opens on 22nd of July for a season start on 13th August
2022/2023= Per @vsberlina above
Expectation would be between tomorrow and next Sunday.
He participated in 48 games last season, so he technically did play a game a week.
Given City did a treble, they went deep into every competition and had to rotate.
He was managed for an injury from mid Jan to mid Feb, then missed all of April due to an appendectomy.
Pep always favours the more senior players, and given Phil is now into his 7th season, I think we'll see more of him if he's fit.
Given City did a treble, they went deep into every competition and had to rotate.
He was managed for an injury from mid Jan to mid Feb, then missed all of April due to an appendectomy.
Pep always favours the more senior players, and given Phil is now into his 7th season, I think we'll see more of him if he's fit.
The 4.5s still giver better value as they rack up more saves, and when they do keep a CS, they usually get bonus.
GKs in the bigger teams might keep more CSes, but they're not involved in much else.
Raya was by far the best scoring GK last season. If Flekken replaces him, he's the one to get.
Reminds me of when Pope was at Burnley years ago. The way Burnley were set up, he got easy saves from outside the box.
GKs in the bigger teams might keep more CSes, but they're not involved in much else.
Raya was by far the best scoring GK last season. If Flekken replaces him, he's the one to get.
Reminds me of when Pope was at Burnley years ago. The way Burnley were set up, he got easy saves from outside the box.
Dunno if you need to cover United's DEF. 2/3 are juicy, but then it's really 2/5. Then there's Shaw's injury history.
Depends when you're thinking of WCing. I think ARS are better as 4/5 are nice, and Gabriel is 5.0.
Flekken and Gabriel for me, with the assumption everyone will have TAA and Estupinan as the other 2 nailed DEF.
Depends when you're thinking of WCing. I think ARS are better as 4/5 are nice, and Gabriel is 5.0.
Flekken and Gabriel for me, with the assumption everyone will have TAA and Estupinan as the other 2 nailed DEF.
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I have Gabriel. Don't have Trent. May change, but I don't really want to pay 8.0 for 1 plum fixture.
The thing with covering United's defence is covering against the masses in a way. United always have strong ownership.
The thing with covering Trent is if you think he is value at 8.0, which I'm on the fence about.
The thing with covering United's defence is covering against the masses in a way. United always have strong ownership.
The thing with covering Trent is if you think he is value at 8.0, which I'm on the fence about.
But are United DEF owned by top players, or by casuals who follow United?
Trent got 60 pts in the last 10 when Pool changed formation and he was more like a MID. He also took lots of SPs.
With a history of 185, 210 & 208, and actually maturing every year, it's too dangerous to not go without him.
If you spread the funds, you'll need a hit to get him in. Easier to have him and downgrade IMO.
He seems to fit in well also. If I dump him, then I'm looking at Bruno and Rashford.
But then I have to drop Mbeumo or Mitoma, and I think they're great value and can go close to Bruno.
Then there's United's tendency to turn into an Essington type team, and you don't want Shaw, Bruno and Rashford.
Trent got 60 pts in the last 10 when Pool changed formation and he was more like a MID. He also took lots of SPs.
With a history of 185, 210 & 208, and actually maturing every year, it's too dangerous to not go without him.
If you spread the funds, you'll need a hit to get him in. Easier to have him and downgrade IMO.
He seems to fit in well also. If I dump him, then I'm looking at Bruno and Rashford.
But then I have to drop Mbeumo or Mitoma, and I think they're great value and can go close to Bruno.
Then there's United's tendency to turn into an Essington type team, and you don't want Shaw, Bruno and Rashford.
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Depends your flavour. Bruno is 0.5 more expensive than Trent. 2 years ago he was 12.0. Arsenal mids are 0.5 more expensive than Trent, Martinelli on par for price. Last year they are 200 point players too. Arsenal have much better fixtures than Pool. The "experts" will say don't take Martinelli because of rotation, but his 70mins could reap rewards anyway.
It all comes down to each individuals interpretation. Quoting last years numbers is all well and good for both of us, but prices from last year have changed. Trent has gone up. Arsenal has gone up. Bruno has come down. It's not as simple as Bruno vs Trent, it's also taking Mitoma types too which is relative to the argument. GW4 rolls around and I'm not sure I want any Brighton. Europe starts and the fixtures turn.
I'm not anti Trent by any stretch. You can't rotate Trent. You can rotate mids because there are options.
It all comes down to each individuals interpretation. Quoting last years numbers is all well and good for both of us, but prices from last year have changed. Trent has gone up. Arsenal has gone up. Bruno has come down. It's not as simple as Bruno vs Trent, it's also taking Mitoma types too which is relative to the argument. GW4 rolls around and I'm not sure I want any Brighton. Europe starts and the fixtures turn.
I'm not anti Trent by any stretch. You can't rotate Trent. You can rotate mids because there are options.
Arsenal do have better fixtures than Pool, hence why I have 1 Pool and 3 Gunners. Let's not forget that Pool is a great side, and regardless of who they play, they can score well. They belted United 7-0. Trent offers a CS and/or attacking returns, is a nailed starter, so is the best risk and value hedge to ensure a slice of the cake should Pool get good returns.
Martinelli is quality, but based on last season, when everyone was fit, he made way. Jesus is probably equal with him, but takes up a FOR spot where there's not many other better options. Same good be said with Gabriel. He takes up a DEF spot. Martinelli takes up a precious MID spot, and is the only reason why he gets squeezed out. Relative to other ARS players and MIDs, he's not top 3 or top 5 in those categories.
100% we can't compare Bruno and Trent, as they're different positions. Bruno suffered when Ronaldo came back to United. Pre and post Ronaldo, he's done well. After the WC, he got something like 25 goal involvements. Given United didn't get too many PKs, that's probably his base. As you eluded to, his current price of 8.5 is well below his historic price, so even if he plays deeper, he will still be value, but now has huge upside.
For me, it's Rashy vs Bruno of that MID spot. Rashy also had an extraordinary year by his standards. He could go back to being MIA or injury prone. I think I'll probably end up going Bruno in the end. He'll do better than Rashy and give you an extra 0.5, which will come in handy when we need to go Trippier and Botman over 2 x 5.0 DEF in GW5-6.
Martinelli is quality, but based on last season, when everyone was fit, he made way. Jesus is probably equal with him, but takes up a FOR spot where there's not many other better options. Same good be said with Gabriel. He takes up a DEF spot. Martinelli takes up a precious MID spot, and is the only reason why he gets squeezed out. Relative to other ARS players and MIDs, he's not top 3 or top 5 in those categories.
100% we can't compare Bruno and Trent, as they're different positions. Bruno suffered when Ronaldo came back to United. Pre and post Ronaldo, he's done well. After the WC, he got something like 25 goal involvements. Given United didn't get too many PKs, that's probably his base. As you eluded to, his current price of 8.5 is well below his historic price, so even if he plays deeper, he will still be value, but now has huge upside.
For me, it's Rashy vs Bruno of that MID spot. Rashy also had an extraordinary year by his standards. He could go back to being MIA or injury prone. I think I'll probably end up going Bruno in the end. He'll do better than Rashy and give you an extra 0.5, which will come in handy when we need to go Trippier and Botman over 2 x 5.0 DEF in GW5-6.
I guess it's really Kane & 4.5 DEF vs Jesus + TAA. Given we'll all captain Haaland the first 6 GWs, and ARS have great fixtures, I think trying to also fit in Kane or Salah just unbalances the side. But once we all gain some value and we find a cheap gem that we can start every week, they'll definitely be worth having.