Position Forwards Discussion

[BlueNwhiteHoops]

If players are running around in the first JLT though they're not a huge concern for me. I'd be wary of someone like Greene should he line-up round 1 without a solid hit-out in this series.

Agree that's why i am still considering Yeo, i believe he may still be able to up his own SC ave a touch even if the Coasters lose a few more games, that's an important thing for me with a guy who just played in a premiership side. Prefer him to Neale if both are fully fit but not by much.

 

[Hondo]

27th of Feb article was written, just resumed full training 2 and a half weeks before. Not great in my book.

Let’s see how he looks in JLT2 if he plays as expected

Sounds like he’s done as much as we could expect post surgery and had no further setbacks.

These injury discounted premiums can be very important picks. It’s about points per $ especially pre upgrade time

 

[Bermi]

Sounds good enough according to this?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gw...r/news-story/edfb1233cac2ddb96521afc4fc3b2392

In that article about Greene, Cameron said "We love him as a forward but equally we still haven’t put away the fact he can roll through the midfield as well. He is such a tough player to match-up up forward, that’s why he is so good up there – do you play a tall or do you play a small? That’s the great thing about Toby.”
My interpretation is: He's too good as a forward to play in the midfield.
Positive for Greene is that he's cheap, but the negatives are that he probably won't see much mid time, unfit, has trouble controlling his competitive spirit and is injury prone, hmmm.

 

[Bomber18]

In that article about Greene, Cameron said "We love him as a forward but equally we still haven’t put away the fact he can roll through the midfield as well. He is such a tough player to match-up up forward, that’s why he is so good up there – do you play a tall or do you play a small? That’s the great thing about Toby.”
My interpretation is: He's too good as a forward to play in the midfield.
Positive for Greene is that he's cheap, but the negatives are that he probably won't see much mid time, unfit, has trouble controlling his competitive spirit and is injury prone, hmmm.

Midfield minutes don’t matter too much as he’s had two 90+ averages playing pure fwd. Any extra mid time is a bonus

 

[Bermi]

Midfield minutes don’t matter too much as he’s had two 90+ averages playing pure fwd. Any extra mid time is a bonus

Regarding Greene, on the previous page was said "..........Another thing to note is his high scoring history in the past was when he was playing midfield, along with being a small forward in a team which had the best midfield in the comp and were ticking along as an elite team during the regular seasons........"
My comment was based on that info, hmmm.

 

[Bomber18]

Regarding Greene, on the previous page was said "..........Another thing to note is his high scoring history in the past was when he was playing midfield, along with being a small forward in a team which had the best midfield in the comp and were ticking along as an elite team during the regular seasons........"
My comment was based on that info, hmmm.

Ahh yeah, he definitely was pushing 100+ in his early days as a pure mid. I think expecting closer to 100 is expecting too much. I think low 90s is more his established scoring pattern as a fwd only. Not too bad at his price. Still need to monitor his fitness though

 

[Pieman17]

Ahh yeah, he definitely was pushing 100+ in his early days as a pure mid. I think expecting closer to 100 is expecting too much. I think low 90s is more his established scoring pattern as a fwd only. Not too bad at his price. Still need to monitor his fitness though

Do you see him as a keeper or a stepping stone ?

 

[Bomber18]

Do you see him as a keeper or a stepping stone ?

Keeper. For him to make enough cash as a stepping stone, he has to be a keeper anyway in terms of his scoring.

I’d say Daniher would be a stepping stone. That 80k or so gap makes a lot of difference

 

[Pieman17]

Keeper. For him to make enough cash as a stepping stone, he has to be a keeper anyway in terms of his scoring.

I’d say Daniher would be a stepping stone. That 80k or so gap makes a lot of difference

Would low 90s be good enough for a keeper?

 

[Hondo]

Would low 90s be good enough for a keeper?

Yes in the forwards when you’ve spent $350k

Devon Smith priced at $440k or so averaged 97.8. Gray 96.8, maclean 94.6, Heeney 97.4

What are you wanting from your premium forwards?

 

[Bomber18]

Would low 90s be good enough for a keeper?

At his price, definitely. It’s a game of $$$ early on. Might lose 5-7ppg on a guy that averages closer to a 100 priced at around $500k but you can make it up with the $150k saved. His bye round helps too, I recall that it was one of the rarer bye rounds up fwd.

The main point of interest is the games played though. A low 90s avg off 18 games wouldn’t be ideal. Would want closer to 21 games. Would depend on how his fitness is going

 

[Connoisseur]

At his price, definitely. It’s a game of $$$ early on. Might lose 5-7ppg on a guy that averages closer to a 100 priced at around $500k but you can make it up with the $150k saved. His bye round helps too, I recall that it was one of the rarer bye rounds up fwd.

The main point of interest is the games played though. A low 90s avg off 18 games wouldn’t be ideal. Would want closer to 21 games. Would depend on how his fitness is going

Will be very interesting to see how he performs this season. Has been my F3-F4 for the majority of the preseason and will likely be utilised as a quick stepping stone to a Mundy/Gray/Menegola type (allowing me to get a gauge on the aforementioned's role) as Greene could possibly earn roughly 50,000+ in the first 5-8 rounds meaning there is a 100,000 differential allowing one of the poor cash generating rookies to be traded.

 

[Bomber18]

Will be very interesting to see how he performs this season. Has been my F3-F4 for the majority of the preseason and will likely be utilised as a quick stepping stone to a Mundy/Gray/Menegola type (allowing me to get a gauge on the aforementioned's role) as Greene could possibly earn roughly 50,000+ in the first 5-8 rounds meaning there is a 100,000 differential allowing one of the poor cash generating rookies to be traded.

This could work, but I think I’d want a fairly big spike score to push him right up to $500k ish if I were to consider it

I think early on tho, the priorities usually are upgrading your rookie positions on field. If he can hold up a spot til byes and there are guys that are averaging much higher than him, then it might be worth trading him out at the bye.

 

[Connoisseur]

This could work, but I think I’d want a fairly big spike score to push him right up to $500k ish if I were to consider it

I think early on tho, the priorities usually are upgrading your rookie positions on field. If he can hold up a spot til byes and there are guys that are averaging much higher than him, then it might be worth trading him out at the bye.

Thanks. Do you know what he would need to average across the first 8 rounds to reach 400,000 or 430,000.

 

[Bomber18]

Thanks. Do you know what he would need to average across the first 8 rounds to reach 400,000 or 430,000.

I’m not great with price projections but this post from Klo might provide some indication: https://supercoachscores.com/thread...e-between-pleasure-and-pain.2799/#post-223385

Based on this, I’d guess 85-90?

 

[NT.Thunder]

Too serious website has a price calculator you can plug numbers in to. Not sure what the magic number is but Walesy who runs the site would be all over it. Haven’t been there for a while though.

http://tooserious.net/forum/stats.php#rXklzP9capET2lGm.97

 

[Hondo]

Thanks. Do you know what he would need to average across the first 8 rounds to reach 400,000 or 430,000.

I Divide by ~ $5000 which is 80-85 to get to $400-$430k

As @Bomber18 said if he’s going in the 90s I think you’d have other priorities than trading him

 

[Veva]

Changes slightly depending on whether you make them a consistent or fluctuating player but being a small forward so being reasonably up and down:
86.6 would have him at 430k after round 8.
81 for 400k.

Using tooserious

 

[pizza safety]

F3 and F4 is one big headache. I'll be trying to play 3 rookies there because I have absolutely no clue who to choose after Danger and Heeney. Currently got Taranto at M6 instead of a forward at F4

 

[Woodsey]

I dont want to read too much into JLT1 but where did Robbie Gray play a majority of his time against Adelaide? Was it forward or in the mids?
Gray's knee soreness hasnt been too concerning for me as of yet, especially as he played JLT1. However with some rookies impressing in the midfield is there a chance that he doesnt get as much midfield time as I anticipate and they manage him early on in the year?