Discussion General Discussion

Which team wins a final first?

  • Essendon

    Votes: 23 28.4%
  • Tasmania

    Votes: 58 71.6%

  • Total voters
    81
Joined
3 Feb 2021
Messages
2,410
Likes
13,067
AFL Club
Essendon
So the AFL has come out and said a free kick should have been paid to Melbourne in the dying seconds of Sat's game. As if it isn't bad enough that we have a rule which requires the umpires in a split second and under extreme pressure to determine what a player's intent was (apparently they can read minds now!), their employer has now seen fit to admonish them after the fact with the benefit of 24 hours of endless review and histrionics from the 800+ football "journalists".

"Insufficient intent" - Give me strength!

I'm not sure what p!sses me off more at the moment - deliberate out of bounds or the vagaries around HTB.

<end rant>
 
Joined
3 Feb 2021
Messages
2,410
Likes
13,067
AFL Club
Essendon
Crowds are down and I reckon part of it is fans have become more used to staying home. The other issue is you just can’t rock up to games like you could in the past. Not a criticism because the AFL like everyone has to put in place a system for contact tracing and that means forcing everyone to have a ticketed seat. I just wonder whether there will be permanent impact on crowd sizes.
 
Joined
18 Jul 2016
Messages
3,769
Likes
26,255
AFL Club
Sydney
Daily Fantasy is a fun until you realise you're up against blokes running advanced data modelling programs spitting out best possible lineups with unlimited bankrolls virtually killing any real chance you have in the multiple entry competitions. I mean you might get lucky from time to time, but in the long run some of these guys are making a living from this and win out most of the time.

Either that or guys are paying for subscriptions for similar programs that do the same thing.

I'm all for the single lineup entry DFS comps. If you see the 25 or 50 entry comps you're literally plankton swimming with sharks.
I've done plenty well on it without any of that. All the models in the world can't make up for actually watching the games and seeing Aaron Hall move to the half back flank for a 2nd half and backing him in for the next month, or for knowing who the rookies are that are actually worth picking in a team.

But yeah, the reality is that you're not going to make bank on it without a genuine system but you should be able to finish in the money more often than not and can certainly get lucky from time to time.

So the AFL has come out and said a free kick should have been paid to Melbourne in the dying seconds of Sat's game. As if it isn't bad enough that we have a rule which requires the umpires in a split second and under extreme pressure to determine what a player's intent was (apparently they can read minds now!), their employer has now seen fit to admonish them after the fact with the benefit of 24 hours of endless review and histrionics from the 800+ football "journalists".

"Insufficient intent" - Give me strength!

I'm not sure what p!sses me off more at the moment - deliberate out of bounds or the vagaries around HTB.

<end rant>
To be fair, that was absolutely 100% deliberate and the umpire choked badly. That would be like a player missing a set shot to win the game from the top of the square and no one would be saying it wasn't a choke if he'd done it or not calling it out. The umpire is a professional and needs to be able to handle the pressures of the job.

I mean that one was so utterly deliberate that even if it went through for a point it should have been deliberate.

That said, the rule is still ass. I actually don't mind the insufficient intent but the inconsistencies to me are the issue. It's just so completely inconsistent. I hate the idea of last touch but honestly... I think we're at that point where it just solves all the stupid inconsistencies in the rule.

Still better than the dangerous tackle or holding the ball (and related) rules...
 
Joined
4 Mar 2021
Messages
450
Likes
2,319
AFL Club
Fremantle
I've done plenty well on it without any of that. All the models in the world can't make up for actually watching the games and seeing Aaron Hall move to the half back flank for a 2nd half and backing him in for the next month, or for knowing who the rookies are that are actually worth picking in a team.

But yeah, the reality is that you're not going to make bank on it without a genuine system but you should be able to finish in the money more often than not and can certainly get lucky from time to time.
Bit naive to think these guys aren't footy fanatics like the rest of us, they are more likely just punters rather than super coach players. Reality is the odds are wildly against you with what they have at their disposal + bankroll to enter max teams in every competition.
 
Joined
25 Feb 2019
Messages
2,576
Likes
11,640
AFL Club
Adelaide
Just wondering with the future fixtures ie Rd16 - Rd23, is the order they are showing on the AFL website indicative of the order the games will be played in? ie Rd16 he first game is shown as Collingwood vs St Kilda, so even though we don't know if it's a Thursday or Friday game, it will be the 1st game of the round?
 

Tamuhawk

Leadership Group
Joined
4 Feb 2013
Messages
23,423
Likes
66,317
AFL Club
Hawthorn
Just wondering with the future fixtures ie Rd16 - Rd23, is the order they are showing on the AFL website indicative of the order the games will be played in? ie Rd16 he first game is shown as Collingwood vs St Kilda, so even though we don't know if it's a Thursday or Friday game, it will be the 1st game of the round?
Fixture beyond rd 16 hasn't been announced yet. If you look more carefully it's in alphatbetical order from the home team. Definitely not the order as seen.
 

Darkie

Leadership Group
Joined
12 Apr 2014
Messages
25,401
Likes
65,467
AFL Club
Collingwood
Fixture beyond rd 16 hasn't been announced yet. If you look more carefully it's in alphatbetical order from the home team. Definitely not the order as seen.
Good point. Also @jel the fixture I had saved down from pre season is ordered the same way, and therefore is not representative of what’s happening even this round.
 
Joined
18 Jul 2016
Messages
3,769
Likes
26,255
AFL Club
Sydney

KLo30

Leadership Group
Joined
27 Jan 2014
Messages
18,104
Likes
52,783
AFL Club
North Melb.
Are you missing an ' ?

Attempt at humour lost, if one was attempting.

You only have to visit the "Teams & In Game Discussion" to see what they are trying to eliminate. There are a few who post vitriol and one eyed slants, and then others who post such and then delete, on a regular basis.

There are also a few whose contributions during play add nothing to the game discussion or fantasy aspect.

We all come here for the discussion. Whinging, moaning and complaining, unless within reason, is best place elsewhere.
 

KLo30

Leadership Group
Joined
27 Jan 2014
Messages
18,104
Likes
52,783
AFL Club
North Melb.
Uber and Uber Eats is little better than legalised slavery. You want a job done well you need to pay people properly, in pay and conditions. Just my opinion.
That's a reasonable position.

That means in reality two meals delivered an hour at $26 plus car charges plus Super. Let's say close to $40.

Then every delivery is cost plus $20. Not the $5 as often charged.

Same as holidaying in Australia. Businesses have to pay award wages. Then Australians who holiday in Australia complain how expensive it is compare to Bali and Thailand, and therefore how Australia is a ripoff.

You can't have it both ways.
 
Top