Player X vs. Player Y

[THCLT]

BIG statement to say that Macrae has ‘clearly’ surpass Bontempelli from an SC output point of view!

Both young and rising chips in this game, and still yet to reach their full potential. However, I would argue that Bontempelli possess a much more potent SC game than Macrae, from what I’ve seen thus far.

Time will tell...

 

[Darkie]

Thanks Darkie. I am not sure what the appeal of the Bont is. Macrae has clearly surpassed him as a SC scorer and he has been too volatile a scorer for my liking given they've relied upon him up forward. For me, Treloar is a far more consistent scorer for a similar price.

Interesting how the Dangerfield's, Martin's, Gray's and Bont's get pushed up forward for their teams, reducing their scoring power from a fantasy perspective.

I'm inclined to agree re Bont v Treloar, for what it's worth, and I think the key issue with Bont and the others you mention is role. My sense was you might be stretching a bit for a R12 mid, in which case I think Bont should be ahead of Gaff and probably Curnow, but otherwise I've largely decided that Treloar and Cripps (who I know you already have) will likely be my last two midfielders.

 

[Prochard]

Thoughts please

Gaff - career best season but vulnerable to a tag in the past and with a tag from Sydney a possibility this week. Relatively unique
Curnow - pretty consistent season and Cripps gets the attention. unique
Treloar - obviously wait a week, but quite consistent this season
Dangerfield - who is a bit more expensive and spending plenty of time up forward. Bye to come
Macrae - highest scorer, but a price of 700k & break even of 200+. Wait a week or two

Gaff-was always on the verge of acceptable scoring for a mid, more wins could push it over the edge. Shuey is still the likely tagged mid
Curnow-I like. Little impact mediocre player, but like rockliff, plays very sc friendly game.
Treloar-Strong mid, i actually started him and traded him out when he was injured and facing curnow who traditionally tagged him. Will skip this one simply because he has a bye this round so somewhat irrelevant
Dangerfield-Just pick him, if Crameri comes back and one of the key mids get injured, he may go on 135+ ave streak again and you won't be able to bring him in at low cost
Macrae-too pricey. Too many top teams have him.

Treloar omitted.

Dangerfield>Curnow>Gaff>Macrae

 

[HotShame]

Ed Curnow Vs Andrew Gaff

 

[BomberSam]

Bont vs. Jelwood? Happy to wait until R15 for Jelwood.

 

[Willyorwonty]

Gaff-was always on the verge of acceptable scoring for a mid, more wins could push it over the edge. Shuey is still the likely tagged mid
Curnow-I like. Little impact mediocre player, but like rockliff, plays very sc friendly game.
Treloar-Strong mid, i actually started him and traded him out when he was injured and facing curnow who traditionally tagged him. Will skip this one simply because he has a bye this round so somewhat irrelevant
Dangerfield-Just pick him, if Crameri comes back and one of the key mids get injured, he may go on 135+ ave streak again and you won't be able to bring him in at low cost
Macrae-too pricey. Too many top teams have him.

Treloar omitted.

Dangerfield>Curnow>Gaff>Macrae

Thanks Prochard. A very considered and tailored response. Much appreciated

And to you Darkie, yes I was looking for a Round 12 in. You know I don't like sitting on cash when I can pull the trigger on a trade

 

[Willyorwonty]

BIG statement to say that Macrae has ‘clearly’ surpass Bontempelli from an SC output point of view!

Both young and rising chips in this game, and still yet to reach their full potential. However, I would argue that Bontempelli possess a much more potent SC game than Macrae, from what I’ve seen thus far.

Time will tell...

Big statement, perhaps, but Macrae has got Bontempelli covered by almost 30ppg across half a season of football.

 

[Willyorwonty]

Ed Curnow Vs Andrew Gaff

A few have replied to my question including Treloar and Dangerfield as well. Opinions are split between Curnow and Gaff. Curnow averaging more, but Gaff has had less games below 100pts (2 vs 3). I kind of lean toward Curnow because he has less competition for points (Cripps and Simpson) from within his team and I figure there is more spread of players in WCE who can pinch points - Yeo, Kennedy, Darling, Shuey, Hurn, McGovern etc? Just a theory.

 

[30BucketsofRo]

Ed Curnow Vs Andrew Gaff

Curnow has been effective even when tagging. Can win the ball and also gets a good amount of CP and tackles. Question is can he maintain it?
Gaff as an outside player is relying on getting a lot of the pill and also using it well, both factors he has covered. Has been suspectible to a tag before. Outside players are generally easier to tag out of a game from what I've seen. Does a tag go to him soon? Shuey still probably the first player tagged at WC but Gaff is second. One thing with Gaff is that his floor this season has been higher than previously, he also seems to be winning more CP.
Would take Curnow first, SC scoring rewards inside players more than outside and he has shown he can score well even when tagging or running with a player. As mentioned before, less of the pie shared with other players at Carlton too.

 

[Goodie's Guns]

Trade 1 from each of the sets of players...

Murphy vs. Mirra

Guelfi vs. Spargo

 

[Willyorwonty]

Trade 1 from each of the sets of players...

Murphy vs. Mirra

Guelfi vs. Spargo

Neither of Murphy or Mirra is reliably getting a game, but Mirra is scoring better when he does. Murphy not available next week but Mirra has had his bye.
I think Guelfi scores better than Spargo, so I would hold him longer

 

[quite ironic]

K.Simpson vs R.Gray

 

[GrainFedBeef]

K.Simpson vs R.Gray

Whilst I dont love either, I think Kade Simpson in current role as you have better sample size. Age a little bit against him but has been a durable player.

Feels like:

Kade is an 85-90 ave player throwing up the odd 100-140, pushing ave up to 95-100.

Gray is a 95-100 player throwing up either the odd 65 and less frequently 120 from here, with a 90 ave. Has 7 of the last 11 games where he should be solid (including 2-3 easy games ) and maybe 4 hard games.

 

[GrainFedBeef]

BIG statement to say that Macrae has ‘clearly’ surpass Bontempelli from an SC output point of view!

Both young and rising chips in this game, and still yet to reach their full potential. However, I would argue that Bontempelli possess a much more potent SC game than Macrae, from what I’ve seen thus far.

Time will tell...

Big statement, perhaps, but Macrae has got Bontempelli covered by almost 30ppg across half a season of football.

As owning neither and looking to bring one in, bloody hard to separate them (although on current price and last 5 games Bont stands out). Macrae has shown this this season he has a contested game and can accumulate the ball better than Bont, however, as he receive attention he is coming back to the 100 level (which is still impressive). Bont has a great effective game as he does penetrated long kicks but doesnt get the cheap kicks.

Bont has improved from last season where he is now posting better scores in games where Dogs lose by a lot. His score ceiling is now is influenced more by mid vs fwd time which is harder to call going forward, although, appears to be receiving more mid time Still cannot explain the Pies score of 45, although, some of those Melb mids did struggle.

 

[Pieman17]

Kruezer vs Nic Nat

 

[pjay79]

Wingard vs JJK

 

[BomberSam]

Kruezer vs Nic Nat

I would go Nic Nat. Will probably match or outscore Kreuzer and is slightly less injury-prone.

Wingard vs JJK

I wouldn't feel that comfortable with either in my team to be honest. I liked Wingard a lot last week, but that's just one week. If you had to make the call this week, I'd say JJK, but if you can wait then watch Wingard again tonight.

 

[BomberSam]

Bont vs. Jelwood? Happy to wait until R15 for Jelwood.

Bump...

 

[Prochard]

Bump...

This was my preseason dillema. Ended up starting with Jelwood. He initially dominated then copped a few injury niggles. Now somehow is still the #1 tagged despite having Danger, Ablett, duncan in the team as well... Anyways, I'd actually go Bont, simply because you won't have to worry one semi bad knee/ankle/leg injury ruling him out for the rest of the year.

 

[Prochard]

A few have replied to my question including Treloar and Dangerfield as well. Opinions are split between Curnow and Gaff. Curnow averaging more, but Gaff has had less games below 100pts (2 vs 3). I kind of lean toward Curnow because he has less competition for points (Cripps and Simpson) from within his team and I figure there is more spread of players in WCE who can pinch points - Yeo, Kennedy, Darling, Shuey, Hurn, McGovern etc? Just a theory.

Although the "pie" was smaller to begin with for Carlton anyways right?

Collingwood may get 50% of the pie in a sc game and divide that by 22.

Carlton probably will only get 35-44% of the bye and divide that by 22 players, even if Curnow gets a large chunk from that.

Not sure if it's a significant factor.