Opinion Player X vs. Player Y
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I should start by saying for those new to the site, and Darkie and I have had this talk in the past, that I don't play safe. For me it is first or nothing and I'm prepared to crash and burn. If I had money invested in leagues or were desperate to beat mates I would play safer.
I've seen past winners
1. Who have had 7 keepers for the year.
2. Started with 4 failed mid pricers and then traded to 4 successful mid pricers.
3. Started with 4 successful previously unproven breakout candidates who became the best on their line.
4. Have never previously finished inside the top 5000.
I'm looking to start players who are either:
1. Durable with a low standard deviation and clearly the best on their line, i.e. Grundy, Macrae and a fit Gawn. or
2. Players who are volatile and priced near the bottom of their predicted price cycle. or
3. Breakout candidates based on age, tog%, more opportunity etc.
My forward contenders at the moment include, Devon Smith, Tom Lynch, JJK, Charlie Dixon, Andrew Brayshaw, Jonathon Patton. I'm also happy to start them in the rucks or mids.
I can't justify Whitfield at his price. It's funny watching people say "if you take out this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this, he's been really durable"!
Dusty is coming off a premiership (lots of parties) and is slowly being pushed forward more and more each year. Possible trade in target. Longmire just won't let Heeney near the stoppages and he is priced at the top of his price cycle. Possible trade in target.
I love Walters as a Freo supporter but he looks to have just had a spike year.
Mind you I keep buying lotto tickets too! Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me three times, fool me four times..................................................................
I've seen past winners
1. Who have had 7 keepers for the year.
2. Started with 4 failed mid pricers and then traded to 4 successful mid pricers.
3. Started with 4 successful previously unproven breakout candidates who became the best on their line.
4. Have never previously finished inside the top 5000.
I'm looking to start players who are either:
1. Durable with a low standard deviation and clearly the best on their line, i.e. Grundy, Macrae and a fit Gawn. or
2. Players who are volatile and priced near the bottom of their predicted price cycle. or
3. Breakout candidates based on age, tog%, more opportunity etc.
My forward contenders at the moment include, Devon Smith, Tom Lynch, JJK, Charlie Dixon, Andrew Brayshaw, Jonathon Patton. I'm also happy to start them in the rucks or mids.
I can't justify Whitfield at his price. It's funny watching people say "if you take out this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this, he's been really durable"!
Dusty is coming off a premiership (lots of parties) and is slowly being pushed forward more and more each year. Possible trade in target. Longmire just won't let Heeney near the stoppages and he is priced at the top of his price cycle. Possible trade in target.
I love Walters as a Freo supporter but he looks to have just had a spike year.
Mind you I keep buying lotto tickets too! Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me three times, fool me four times..................................................................
Good post ... I'm starting Whitfield but with the view that I get two weeks to look at him and decide if I keep him ... are the alternatives Oliver, Yeo, Gaff really any better at this price point .... or even likely to be top 1 - 3 on their respective lines ... just my initial thoughts and 30 odd days to go yet ...
Any of them look good value and all 3 have been in my team at times. Probably Danger, don't see him playing in the forward line as much this year, as they will need him in the midfield. You might want to be sure you have a way to get Mitchell in if he starts well though - if he does he likely won't be that cheap again all season.
I think Adelaide would have given him more time on ground if he could have handled it. Swallow who is a good player was their best mid with an 88 average last year. Miles seemed to get to 95-100 at Richmond but only got to 84 at Gold Coast. Can Greenwood do better than that?
I have nothing other than gut feel to base this on but it seems like Stewy Dew wants his players to "learn" rather than play.
I have nothing other than gut feel to base this on but it seems like Stewy Dew wants his players to "learn" rather than play.
Interesting re Greenwood
Did Pyke actually give him enough time in the centre ?
Seemed very reluctant to move Crouch , Crouch & Sloane (maybe 2 of them can't play anywhere else) so the likes of CEY , Gibbs , Greenwood , Milera , Smith etc may have had limited opportunities.
Watching the Crows game he actually gave them a different look when he actually did get in the middle , contested beast.
Given his late start to football as well you wonder if the sports science people had him on a different programme over 1-2-3 pre-seasons to adapt his body back to football requirements.
Even at the Suns he might not be part of the first rotation behind Swallow , Miller & Rowell.
Did Pyke actually give him enough time in the centre ?
Seemed very reluctant to move Crouch , Crouch & Sloane (maybe 2 of them can't play anywhere else) so the likes of CEY , Gibbs , Greenwood , Milera , Smith etc may have had limited opportunities.
Watching the Crows game he actually gave them a different look when he actually did get in the middle , contested beast.
Given his late start to football as well you wonder if the sports science people had him on a different programme over 1-2-3 pre-seasons to adapt his body back to football requirements.
Even at the Suns he might not be part of the first rotation behind Swallow , Miller & Rowell.
84.6 , 86 , 85.3 so he is not far from Top 10 now , problem is their could be 12-25 players who could realistically fill those Top 5 players outside of Whitfield , Heeney , Martin etc etc so do you jump from the start or sit at wait ?
I certainly don't know enough about the Suns setup but expect they got him for a reason , but like I said before he might still sit behind Swallow , Miller & Rowell.
Swallow & Miller are only high 80's themselves , so you would want 90-92 minimum from Greenwood , not sure if he has that in him.
Plonked in the forward line he might see even less ball.
Depends on the rookies but I might start Whitfield , Lynch (Richmond) & Smith , assuming the latter 2 both work and I want both Dusty & Heeney that leaves me one spot to fill out of any of those 12-25.
Hill & Cockatoo will both be held together by tape so I will need a strong F7 & F8.
I guess forwards and defender lines will define the season , can't really go wrong with any of the Top 10 mids from last season as starting picks unless injury strikes.
I remember one year I think my D1-D3 were everyone else's D4-6 so I was losing 75-100 points each week
I certainly don't know enough about the Suns setup but expect they got him for a reason , but like I said before he might still sit behind Swallow , Miller & Rowell.
Swallow & Miller are only high 80's themselves , so you would want 90-92 minimum from Greenwood , not sure if he has that in him.
Plonked in the forward line he might see even less ball.
Depends on the rookies but I might start Whitfield , Lynch (Richmond) & Smith , assuming the latter 2 both work and I want both Dusty & Heeney that leaves me one spot to fill out of any of those 12-25.
Hill & Cockatoo will both be held together by tape so I will need a strong F7 & F8.
I guess forwards and defender lines will define the season , can't really go wrong with any of the Top 10 mids from last season as starting picks unless injury strikes.
I remember one year I think my D1-D3 were everyone else's D4-6 so I was losing 75-100 points each week
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The bold is so true, when depth is tested in fwd line, that one extra quality player makes a big difference as often a 40 player comes on (is that Max King this year?)
Not sure on Greenwood re tank, doesn't have the build of Petracca or Wines in the legs. Guessing opportunity could play a bigger part for him in terms of output. Has shown an ability to go +100 so I am guess opportunity over tank is the issue.
Not sure on Greenwood re tank, doesn't have the build of Petracca or Wines in the legs. Guessing opportunity could play a bigger part for him in terms of output. Has shown an ability to go +100 so I am guess opportunity over tank is the issue.
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I really hope I can nail my bench rookies this year , nothing worse than seeing them rise $ 50k then vanish , pointless in trading and leaves you with limited upgrade options , certainly doesn't make the season enjoyable.
Hopefully King & Rankine are viable , not sure on Cameron , Cavarra , Hosie , Sturt etc at this stage.
Be nice if Cockatoo and Hill can strong that 6-8 games at the start and score well enough to make some $$$.
I do like Greenwood as a footballer , so many different options to start up forward though , really need to get it right.
Hoping some cheapish defenders put their hand up in the next few weeks.
I really hope I can nail my bench rookies this year , nothing worse than seeing them rise $ 50k then vanish , pointless in trading and leaves you with limited upgrade options , certainly doesn't make the season enjoyable.
Hopefully King & Rankine are viable , not sure on Cameron , Cavarra , Hosie , Sturt etc at this stage.
Be nice if Cockatoo and Hill can strong that 6-8 games at the start and score well enough to make some $$$.
I do like Greenwood as a footballer , so many different options to start up forward though , really need to get it right.
Hoping some cheapish defenders put their hand up in the next few weeks.
