Psst! Do you have a secret player no one has spoken about?

Do you have a secret player no one has spoken about?

  • Yes - defender

    Votes: 9 21.4%
  • Yes - midfielder

    Votes: 14 33.3%
  • Yes -ruck

    Votes: 4 9.5%
  • Yes - forward

    Votes: 8 19.0%
  • No

    Votes: 7 16.7%

  • Total voters
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#22
Haven't heard too much mentioned about him, and is at a similar price to what Beams started at last year; Dayne Zorko! Had a ripper first year, playing 16 games and ave 100pts. Love the way he goes about it, and will be very interested to see how he goes in NAB matches. Reckon he could quite easily increase his ave 10-20pts this year, seeing as he would be well down the tag list at the Lions (Rockliffe, Black, Redden, Rich, Maloney).
 
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#23
Zorko was senstional last year- gem!

but imo to hit the 110-120 average for zorko- would be dependent on the lions vastly improving. are they a top 6 team??
 
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Josh kennedy is one who not many seem to consider i've noticed. priced at 297k CHF in a probable top 4 team? F6/bench spot(after half way mark of season) with a potential 85-95 average?
 
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The Lions are improving, but I guess the proof will be in the pudding as to whether that translates to finals. Also with Rockliffe back to good health and the addition of Maloney, does that take away possible midfield time for Zorko??
 
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Rob Warnock from cartlon

enjoying a solid pre season as well as MM backing.
if he can lock down the No.1 ruck role, a warnock/berger combo could free up some serious cash
 
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#28
I don't know if i would say i have a "secret" player but there are plenty of obvious "left field" picks that i am sure many of us are considering ... Knights, Varcoe, Winderlich and Byrnes are all a little left field but i have seen them mentioned here and there ...

For me the guys who were top draft picks and now approaching their 3rd or 4th season are the ones to watch. They become "secret" and somewhat unspoken when they also have not played many total games ... Vickery comes to mind here for example.

I also hear some people saying they have multiple secret players ... i find this hard to really believe as most people on this site are pretty smart when it comes to picking there team. To play 3 really out their left field picks (so i am not referring to the knights, byrnes types etc) is just way to risky. I would suspect that most of us have actually at least glanced at the "secret" players that people have ...

Also having the "you know whats" to lock the secret player in is another story all together ... i think i am watching several some what left field players but most likely I will only lock in one or none of these unless they show something in the preseason ... then they will most likely not a "secret" anymore.

I know you need to take some risks to win this thing but i would prefer to take these with my trading where i can base it on a little more then gut ... for example, last year i jumped on Stanton after round 2 ... then he killed it for the next x number of weeks. This had a small element of gut instinct to it but he did smash the pre-season and then continue that into round 1. He also had a history of at least finishing the season with a respectable (although not "premium" - whatever that means) average.

Just my 2 cents ...
 

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#29
Not in many teams but one that should be is SANDILANDS (ran a pb 2km time trial so his turf toe seems ok)
 

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#30
Not in many teams but one that should be is SANDILANDS (ran a pb 2km time trial so his turf toe seems ok)
It's great to see the big fella in such fine form. Just one word of warning. Turf toe is more likely to affect you when jumping, or changing direction rather than just straight running. Don't give him the all clear just yet. :)
 

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I also hear some people saying they have multiple secret players ... i find this hard to really believe as most people on this site are pretty smart when it comes to picking there team. To play 3 really out their left field picks (so i am not referring to the knights, byrnes types etc) is just way to risky. I would suspect that most of us have actually at least glanced at the "secret" players that people have ...
I tend to look at starting teams containing "combination POD's" rather than individual POD's, or leftfield players. For example: if 10-15% of teams start with Sylvia, and another 10-15% start with Thomas, on their own they are not really POD's, but as a combination they are.
Last year I started with both Watson, and Zaharakis. I was needlessly worried about Watsons hamstrings, and thought if he went down Zaha might be his replacement in the Mid at Ess. I quite happily had Zaha sitting in my Fwd line, and consider the combination as somewhat of a POD.
I'm taking a new approach this year, and my team will have plenty of players that appear here or there in between 5% and 20% of teams, but I will be surprised if many teams will have 2 or 3 of them together, let alone the 6 or 8 I'll have.
Huge risk, I know, but potential for the ultimate upside, too! Though I will concede, like an overfuelled plane with one wing, it is more likely to spectacularly crash and burn, than to soar to great heights. :)
 
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#32
I like you point about combination POD ... I think this concept is very sound. In the same light ...

I agree 6-8 is a huge risk/reward ... i think the risk however can be controlled with a mix of unique premiums, mid pricers and cheap players. For example, Judd or NDS would definitely be a POD but the risk is fairly minimal. On the other hand if you go with Parker, Vickery, Winderlick and Jenkins you would be taking a massive gamble where i would expect the risk v reward ratio just wouldn't stack up.

It is interesting to note that reading all the forums and looking at teams that have a history of high finishes in SC almost all of them don't have Franklin.

I totally get the reasoning with his tough draw but a little ironic that he may actually be a POD selection in the top x number of teams.
 
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#33
I'm taking a new approach this year, and my team will have plenty of players that appear here or there in between 5% and 20% of teams, but I will be surprised if many teams will have 2 or 3 of them together, let alone the 6 or 8 I'll have.
Huge risk, I know, but potential for the ultimate upside, too! Though I will concede, like an overfuelled plane with one wing, it is more likely to spectacularly crash and burn, than to soar to great heights. :)
Better to fly with the Eagles than hang out with the Turkeys :)... hope the flight last long
 

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I don't know if i would say i have a "secret" player but there are plenty of obvious "left field" picks that i am sure many of us are considering ... Knights, Varcoe, Winderlich and Byrnes are all a little left field but i have seen them mentioned here and there ...

For me the guys who were top draft picks and now approaching their 3rd or 4th season are the ones to watch. They become "secret" and somewhat unspoken when they also have not played many total games ... Vickery comes to mind here for example.

I also hear some people saying they have multiple secret players ... i find this hard to really believe as most people on this site are pretty smart when it comes to picking there team. To play 3 really out their left field picks (so i am not referring to the knights, byrnes types etc) is just way to risky. I would suspect that most of us have actually at least glanced at the "secret" players that people have ...

Also having the "you know whats" to lock the secret player in is another story all together ... i think i am watching several some what left field players but most likely I will only lock in one or none of these unless they show something in the preseason ... then they will most likely not a "secret" anymore.

I know you need to take some risks to win this thing but i would prefer to take these with my trading where i can base it on a little more then gut ... for example, last year i jumped on Stanton after round 2 ... then he killed it for the next x number of weeks. This had a small element of gut instinct to it but he did smash the pre-season and then continue that into round 1. He also had a history of at least finishing the season with a respectable (although not "premium" - whatever that means) average.

Just my 2 cents ...
I like you point about combination POD ... I think this concept is very sound. In the same light ...

I agree 6-8 is a huge risk/reward ... i think the risk however can be controlled with a mix of unique premiums, mid pricers and cheap players. For example, Judd or NDS would definitely be a POD but the risk is fairly minimal. On the other hand if you go with Parker, Vickery, Winderlick and Jenkins you would be taking a massive gamble where i would expect the risk v reward ratio just wouldn't stack up.

It is interesting to note that reading all the forums and looking at teams that have a history of high finishes in SC almost all of them don't have Franklin.

I totally get the reasoning with his tough draw but a little ironic that he may actually be a POD selection in the top x number of teams.
Some really good comments here Mpollock.

100% guaranteed Franklin will be a POD in the top 10,000 teams.

Which is quite incredible when you think that he is fitter than he has ever been and entering the absolute prime of his carear.
 

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#35
It's great to see the big fella in such fine form. Just one word of warning. Turf toe is more likely to affect you when jumping, or changing direction rather than just straight running. Don't give him the all clear just yet. :)
If he does manage to play the whole season though, he could easily average 120. Also, he has had turf toe in both feet rather than a recurrence in one so I feel that the operations may have been successful. Finally, if he does go down, I can trade him without difficulty thanks to the extra trades. So while risky, I think there is plenty of upside.
 

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#36
If he does manage to play the whole season though, he could easily average 120. Also, he has had turf toe in both feet rather than a recurrence in one so I feel that the operations may have been successful. Finally, if he does go down, I can trade him without difficulty thanks to the extra trades. So while risky, I think there is plenty of upside.
Good draw for Sandy early, could be a dream run if, (and it is a fair sized if):
1. Nic Nat misses Round 1;
2. Jolly doesn't travel to Perth round 7,
3. Mumford isn't fit for round 8,

Leaves only the Essendon combo (which ever one they are using), big Ivan and Sam Jacobs to cause trouble before the bye, not that he struggles to score in Supercoach against good sides but the potential for real big scores is there.
 

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Good draw for Sandy early, could be a dream run if, (and it is a fair sized if):
1. Nic Nat misses Round 1;
2. Jolly doesn't travel to Perth round 7,
3. Mumford isn't fit for round 8,

Leaves only the Essendon combo (which ever one they are using), big Ivan and Sam Jacobs to cause trouble before the bye, not that he struggles to score in Supercoach against good sides but the potential for real big scores is there.
He is 13 centimetres taller than mumford and 11 more than jolls so should be good and NicNat is unlikely to be risked rd 1, when they can have ab extra two weeks for his recovery by not playing him.
 

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He is 13 centimetres taller than mumford and 11 more than jolls so should be good and NicNat is unlikely to be risked rd 1, when they can have ab extra two weeks for his recovery by not playing him.
The advantage in not having Mumford and Jolly is not that he won't score well if they play but that (in my mind atleast) he will score even better against their replacements.
 

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My smokey for this year that I haven't heard too much love for is Hannebery. He jumped on my radar following his GF performance where he scored a monster 141 and just generally played like a beast.

He scored over 100 9 times during the course of the season (inc finals) and is priced at $439K for an 82 avg, suggesting to me that he only needs to improve his consistency to become a viable pick.

The biggest downside that I can see is that for the last 3 years, his season average has been remarkably consistent (consistent inconsistency?) at 83, 84, 82 and doesn't really have that upward trend that we look for in breakout candidates.

Still, given that all reports are that he's proverbially "training the house down" and providing exceptional leadership for a young guy and that there's still a bit of the changing of the guard going on in the swans midfield - Kennedy and Jack have already stood up - maybe this year is Hannebery's? I think I'm going to take a punt because I really love watching him play.
 

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If he does manage to play the whole season though, he could easily average 120. Also, he has had turf toe in both feet rather than a recurrence in one so I feel that the operations may have been successful. Finally, if he does go down, I can trade him without difficulty thanks to the extra trades. So while risky, I think there is plenty of upside.
Totally agree with all of that. Those extra trades make for a nice security blanket, when taking a Sandi or Mummy. :)
 
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