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Hi Rowsus

I am in ruck quandary. I have Gawn. After such a great run I decided a few weeks back I would trade him Rd 11 to Ryder. However the Ryder injury issue has made me a bit gun shy and I have no ruck cover (unless Pittonet comes back from the dead). The cash injection would be a great help to my bye trading but does not prevent me doing the trades I want during the byes. It just leaves me a bit short at the end and I would have one trade to do to complete my team which may take a bit longer to do until I can cash up again.


I have Ryder pegged at 100 season ave and that means around 6 100 plus scores to come. The alternative to Ryder is Stef Martin. I am not sure about where he will end up in terms of season average. Plus Ryder gives me and extra score over the byes.

Your thoughts on which one is the better selection would be appreciated.
 
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Hi Row, long time no chat!
My SC year is par for the course for me. Not turning out that well, I seem to be too stubborn about certain players to own and not too own, perhaps going with my heart and not my head. Anyway still having fun and enjoying this caper.

This week's trades: I plan on trading out Kelly for Brayshaw via DPP trading (Kelly out, Spargo up to mids, Keeffe down to forwards and Brayshaw in defence (I have J Smith FD DM to pair with Brayshaw DM, this also allows Keeffe to go back to forwards to pair with Sicily in defence). Having done this, my second trade I can get T Smith this week to help with cash generation or pull in Danger. I'm thinking the former and then try to get Mitchell and Danger after their byes. I'm not too sure who would be best to trade out for the second T Smith trade in. Maybe Fritsch or Ronke if going to danger or maybe one of my lesser priced rookies if going to T Smith. I will post a pic of my team before trades this week.

Thanks for your time, and by the way great detective work re Prochard!

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Hi Rowsus

I am in ruck quandary. I have Gawn. After such a great run I decided a few weeks back I would trade him Rd 11 to Ryder. However the Ryder injury issue has made me a bit gun shy and I have no ruck cover (unless Pittonet comes back from the dead). The cash injection would be a great help to my bye trading but does not prevent me doing the trades I want during the byes. It just leaves me a bit short at the end and I would have one trade to do to complete my team which may take a bit longer to do until I can cash up again.


I have Ryder pegged at 100 season ave and that means around 6 100 plus scores to come. The alternative to Ryder is Stef Martin. I am not sure about where he will end up in terms of season average. Plus Ryder gives me and extra score over the byes.

Your thoughts on which one is the better selection would be appreciated.
Hi Manikato1,
I understand and share your trepidation. I too waivered, and yesterday had switched Ryder for Witts. In the end, I have decided I will just run the risk, and go with Ryder. Last season, in his last 11 games, he had 2 scores in the 80's, 2 scores between 100 and 110, and the other 7 were 110+. He's had 39 and 42 Hitouts his last 2 games (against Witts and Jacobs), so is finding some form. I think I'll just grit my teeth, and hang on. There are few Ruckmen that can, or recently have, averaged 110 for a half season stretch of games. The whole idea of the Gawn out gambit, is to hopefully not lose more than 10/game on the player replacing Gawn, then make up at least twice that difference with the cash grabbed. Witts grabs more cash, but it's hard to be confident he can finish 12/105, as he's never achieved that before. S Martin has, but then you lose the slingshot, and the extra player during the byes. In effect, Martin would need to outscore Ryder by at least 4-5/game to make up for that difference. He's capable of that ........ but I already have him sitting at R2, and want the extra player playing for me, during the MBR's.
 
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hi row

i currently have naughton, brayshaw, kelly, henry, zgl to upgrade right now. i also have gualfi, fritsch, cole, philips, spargo, ridley, barry, murphy to be upgraded in the next few weeks or so. i was wondering if tim smith is a must have rookie for someone in my position.

i can make two upgrades this week. i was wondering your thoughts on rocky in relation to his durability, and what you expect him to avg from here on also i was hoping to get your thoughts on a forward upgrade from the following players:
- buddy
- hoff
- boak
- walters

out of the above players, walters presents the most value but i am playing for league so i was hoping to get the best player out of that bunch. i was thinking the hoff or boak as there scoring has been a bit more consistent. buddy is still under an injury cloud. i think the hoff might play more ruck time as ryder Achilles tendon has not resolved. i wanted to grab your thoughts on where would you rank the above players for total points.

thanks rowsus
 
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Hi Rowsus ,

In your opinion who would be the 6 best Defenders and 6 Forwards to have for the run home to the finals

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Hi Manikato1,
I understand and share your trepidation. I too waivered, and yesterday had switched Ryder for Witts. In the end, I have decided I will just run the risk, and go with Ryder. Last season, in his last 11 games, he had 2 scores in the 80's, 2 scores between 100 and 110, and the other 7 were 110+. He's had 39 and 42 Hitouts his last 2 games (against Witts and Jacobs), so is finding some form. I think I'll just grit my teeth, and hang on. There are few Ruckmen that can, or recently have, averaged 110 for a half season stretch of games. The whole idea of the Gawn out gambit, is to hopefully not lose more than 10/game on the player replacing Gawn, then make up at least twice that difference with the cash grabbed. Witts grabs more cash, but it's hard to be confident he can finish 12/105, as he's never achieved that before. S Martin has, but then you lose the slingshot, and the extra player during the byes. In effect, Martin would need to outscore Ryder by at least 4-5/game to make up for that difference. He's capable of that ........ but I already have him sitting at R2, and want the extra player playing for me, during the MBR's.
Hi Rowsus


Thanks for the reply. I hate it when you have plan and a spanner leaves you questioning something you thought you had locked away. Would prefer Ryder or Gawn got an injury that forced the decision one way or the other rather than being stuck in the land of indecision. However I think you are right. Having come this far I think I will stick with the plan and go to Ryder. I think I just needed someone to convince me the plan still had merit and you have done that.
 

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Hi Row, long time no chat!
My SC year is par for the course for me. Not turning out that well, I seem to be too stubborn about certain players to own and not too own, perhaps going with my heart and not my head. Anyway still having fun and enjoying this caper.

This week's trades: I plan on trading out Kelly for Brayshaw via DPP trading (Kelly out, Spargo up to mids, Keeffe down to forwards and Brayshaw in defence (I have J Smith FD DM to pair with Brayshaw DM, this also allows Keeffe to go back to forwards to pair with Sicily in defence). Having done this, my second trade I can get T Smith this week to help with cash generation or pull in Danger. I'm thinking the former and then try to get Mitchell and Danger after their byes. I'm not too sure who would be best to trade out for the second T Smith trade in. Maybe Fritsch or Ronke if going to danger or maybe one of my lesser priced rookies if going to T Smith. I will post a pic of my team before trades this week.

Thanks for your time, and by the way great detective work re Prochard!

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Hi Juzzo,
5, maybe 5.5 upgrades still to make, 3 deadwood Rookies, 2 newish Rookies we can't be sure about, 1 slow-burner, 6 good to ok Rookies, and 1 McInerny.
I think you need to use the coming period to clean up some of those "lesser" Rookies, and I think you need T smith, to generate more funds.
Even though he's been good on-field the past 2 weeks, I think you use Fritsch, as Ronke gives you more flexibility in the coming weeks.
There is nothing wrong with building a good cash bank for the coming weeks!
 

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hi row

i currently have naughton, brayshaw, kelly, henry, zgl to upgrade right now. i also have gualfi, fritsch, cole, philips, spargo, ridley, barry, murphy to be upgraded in the next few weeks or so. i was wondering if tim smith is a must have rookie for someone in my position.

i can make two upgrades this week. i was wondering your thoughts on rocky in relation to his durability, and what you expect him to avg from here on also i was hoping to get your thoughts on a forward upgrade from the following players:
- buddy
- hoff
- boak
- walters

out of the above players, walters presents the most value but i am playing for league so i was hoping to get the best player out of that bunch. i was thinking the hoff or boak as there scoring has been a bit more consistent. buddy is still under an injury cloud. i think the hoff might play more ruck time as ryder Achilles tendon has not resolved. i wanted to grab your thoughts on where would you rank the above players for total points.

thanks rowsus
Hi ad,
I think I have this right, but correct me if I haven't.
6 upgrades to complete your team, 9 "useful" Rookies, 4-5 ???? Rookies.
Unless you are sitting on a pot of cash, I think you need T Smith to make sure you can upgrade without a couple of cheaper compromise type picks.

If we exclude byes as a missed game, then here is Rocky's best run of games, season by season:
2009 - 1
2010 - 16
2011 - 12
2012 - 22
2013 - 12
2014 - 6
2015 - 9
2016 - 12
2017 - 12
We are hoping Rocky can play everygame from here, which would give him:
2018 - 15
As we can see, he has only managed that or better twice in his career, so your fears are well founded. Having said that, at his price, and his scoring potential, there appears to be only a small potential downside to taking him, and seeing how far we can ride him. We probably have to expect he misses a game or two, but if he averages anything over 100, it would seem ok. I can see him going something like 11/105 from here.

I tend to prefer history over potential, or a player breaking new ground. With that in mind, I'd grab Boak from that list. No bye to come, and he's been at the level you want before, where as I am expecting some sort of correction in Westhoff's scoring.
 

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Hi Rowsus ,

In your opinion who would be the 6 best Defenders and 6 Forwards to have for the run home to the finals

FT
Hi FT,
not my favourite type of question, I must admit. Anyone that can answer it nearly correctly should be finishing right up near the pointy end this season.
Players can potentially come home 20/game higher in the 2nd half of the season, than they scored in the 1st half, and vice versa. Obviously identifying both these types is key, but you generally need look for signs, opportunity and Draw advantages. That can be hard to do from here, but each week it gets a little easier, I guess.
Anyway, I'll have a crack.
Looking at PIT65 scores, in no particular order, Def:
Laird
Simpson
Sicily
Yeo
Howe
Hurley

Fwds:
Heeney
McLean
Gray
Boak
Hogan
Franklin
 
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Thanks Rowsus ,

Really appreciate your thoughts, good luck for the remainder of the season.
PS . Will be good to see the Dees in finals this year.

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Hi ad,
I think I have this right, but correct me if I haven't.
6 upgrades to complete your team, 9 "useful" Rookies, 4-5 ???? Rookies.
Unless you are sitting on a pot of cash, I think you need T Smith to make sure you can upgrade without a couple of cheaper compromise type picks.

If we exclude byes as a missed game, then here is Rocky's best run of games, season by season:
2009 - 1
2010 - 16
2011 - 12
2012 - 22
2013 - 12
2014 - 6
2015 - 9
2016 - 12
2017 - 12
We are hoping Rocky can play everygame from here, which would give him:
2018 - 15
As we can see, he has only managed that or better twice in his career, so your fears are well founded. Having said that, at his price, and his scoring potential, there appears to be only a small potential downside to taking him, and seeing how far we can ride him. We probably have to expect he misses a game or two, but if he averages anything over 100, it would seem ok. I can see him going something like 11/105 from here.

I tend to prefer history over potential, or a player breaking new ground. With that in mind, I'd grab Boak from that list. No bye to come, and he's been at the level you want before, where as I am expecting some sort of correction in Westhoff's scoring.
thanks for your reply. i have 6 upgrades to perform to get a full premo team but i prefer 7 upgrades as i would use rocky as my m9.

i have approx 360k in the bank and considering the following options:

1: zgl to smith
kelly to rocky

and then trade in walters and boak next week

2. zgl to smith
kelly to walters
then trade rocky and boak next week

3. zgl to walters
kelly to rocky

i noticed that walters scores a lot higher at optus oval than his away games. he has 7 games at optus oval for the remainder of the season and 3 out of 4 games at optus oval which gives me confidence that he is a very nice option for finals. the main concern for me about walters whether he can stay on the park. in reviewing the above options which one would you take?

thanks in advance and for all your help
 
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Hey Rows,

Was looking at bringing in TSmith and Rocky
However looking at my team, apart from Keefe and Howe this week, all of my players at this stage are playing.
TKelly is the obvious one to turn into Rocky, however all of my other rookies could quite easily still make cash
Pending non selections I am unsure which Rookie to cull out of:
Crowden
Guelfi
Phillips
ZGL
Brayshaw
Spargo
Fritsch
LMurphy
Keefe
Holman (obviously keep)
Keefe not playing and currently not able to use DPP as Sicily is now back in def (with Keefe), also hasn’t made any cash.
Crowden, Murphy hold no value either along with ZGL to a lesser extent
Brayshaw, Phillips, Fritsch and Spargo still going ok.
All of them do not really have high BE’s.
Understand you cannot have every Rookie but Smith looks hard to pass up on.
Leaning towards ZGL, Spargo, prefer Murphy but cannot use him for Smith
Concern is my bench in def line is Keefe and Murphy with no dpp to assist.
Any suggestions ?
 

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thanks for your reply. i have 6 upgrades to perform to get a full premo team but i prefer 7 upgrades as i would use rocky as my m9.

i have approx 360k in the bank and considering the following options:

1: zgl to smith
kelly to rocky

and then trade in walters and boak next week

2. zgl to smith
kelly to walters
then trade rocky and boak next week

3. zgl to walters
kelly to rocky

i noticed that walters scores a lot higher at optus oval than his away games. he has 7 games at optus oval for the remainder of the season and 3 out of 4 games at optus oval which gives me confidence that he is a very nice option for finals. the main concern for me about walters whether he can stay on the park. in reviewing the above options which one would you take?

thanks in advance and for all your help
I think what some of the people, that don't "need" another Cash Cow are missing, is that most of them still need a Forward Rookie downgrade target. On face value, even if Smith doesn't become a cashed out cow, he looks like he could be a pretty hand F7/8. So even if there is little intention or need to cash him out, sit him at F8, and maybe loophole him where possible. The quality might be thin on the ground in a few weeks, when we want to cash out those last cows!
Given your like for Walters, which I can understand, the closeness of his B/E to Rocky's and the intention to move Rock to M9, I think I'd run with option 2.
 
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Hey Rows,

Was looking at bringing in TSmith and Rocky
However looking at my team, apart from Keefe and Howe this week, all of my players at this stage are playing.
TKelly is the obvious one to turn into Rocky, however all of my other rookies could quite easily still make cash
Pending non selections I am unsure which Rookie to cull out of:
Crowden
Guelfi
Phillips
ZGL
Brayshaw
Spargo
Fritsch
LMurphy
Keefe
Holman (obviously keep)
Keefe not playing and currently not able to use DPP as Sicily is now back in def (with Keefe), also hasn’t made any cash.
Crowden, Murphy hold no value either along with ZGL to a lesser extent
Brayshaw, Phillips, Fritsch and Spargo still going ok.
All of them do not really have high BE’s.
Understand you cannot have every Rookie but Smith looks hard to pass up on.
Leaning towards ZGL, Spargo, prefer Murphy but cannot use him for Smith
Concern is my bench in def line is Keefe and Murphy with no dpp to assist.
Any suggestions ?
Hey Slam
ZGL looks close to toasted to me, I'd use him. Of course, they usually throw up a 90 as soon as you think that! :rolleyes:
There's some chance Austin will be high up on peoples shopping lists next week. You could trade out a Fwd for him next week, and re-establish your Sicily/Keefe link.
Austin, like Smith, doesn't have to be looked at as yet another cow. They can be looked at as an opportunity to cash out a player, and gain someone you might be happy to sit on your bench for the rest of the season. Good downgrade targets might become scarce, so I think we need to take them while they are there.
 

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Hey Rowsus, do your reckon your sentiment on Tom Rockliff has changed after witnessing his game against Hawthorn? would you attribute such performance to variance or a more fundamental change. His price tag and bye look incredibly appealing and is still seemingly playing a decent chunk of midfield minutes.
 
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Hi Rowsus,
my concern is Tom McDonald. I was planning to trade him in (to compliment my Def/Fwds Sicily and Keeffe), but I am not sure if he will replace Lever. if so, then I would expect his SC scoring to drop and then be not worth trading in.
Since you are a Melbourne supporter, I thought I would....
Go right to the source
And ask the horse
He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse
He's always on a steady course
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Hey Slam
ZGL looks close to toasted to me, I'd use him. Of course, they usually throw up a 90 as soon as you think that! :rolleyes:
There's some chance Austin will be high up on peoples shopping lists next week. You could trade out a Fwd for him next week, and re-establish your Sicily/Keefe link.
Austin, like Smith, doesn't have to be looked at as yet another cow. They can be looked at as an opportunity to cash out a player, and gain someone you might be happy to sit on your bench for the rest of the season. Good downgrade targets might become scarce, so I think we need to take them while they are there.
Right again Rows..Nice work! Ha Ha... Always the way.
Brought Smith and Rocky in for ZGL and Kelly.... What a disaster...
Just wondering if it is worth considering TLynch. Are you thinking of bringing him back in?
My concern is that the team is just playing very badly and he will not get much of a look in.
 
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