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Does anyone happen to have access to this article?


Thanks in advance.
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DAN BATTEN’S ROOKIE RATINGS
PROJECTIONS COURTESY OF BRICE MITCHELL (@bricemitchell)

1. Brad Close ($109,900, MID/FWD) | BE: 22 Ave: N/A
When the No. 1 rookie option hasn’t even played, you know the cheapie situation is dire. Close averaged 16 touches and 77 points in 21 SANFL games last season but a KFC SuperCoach average of 60 would be enough at his discounted price. DPP status only sweetens the deal over a period where flexibility is a must. Watch his debut with interest as this will give us a better idea of his scoring potential and job security.

2. Andrew McPherson (approx. $215,000, DEF) BE: -15 Ave: 72.6
Hang on, wasn’t Andrew McPherson a bubble boy a fortnight ago? Yes, but with many coaches struggling to field six players in defence, McPherson can help give us some certainty. The 21-year-old lifted to another level when Tom Doedee (hamstring) went off, scoring a season-high 90 points. Nearly half of his 13 disposals per game have been won from intercepts and his job security is rock solid, with his Round 8 effort ensuring at least another fortnight of price rises. Doedee’s injury should only improve his scoring with plenty of footy in winless Adelaide’s back 50.


3. Ben McKay (approx. $192,000, DEF) BE: -41 Ave: 78
KFC SuperCoaches looked at Ben McKay’s score of 82 in Round 7 with understandable scepticism, given the key defender collected just five disposals along with a whopping 15 spoils. The young Roo backed up that total with a solid 70-point score in wet conditions against Carlton, winning more of the footy (10 touches) and tallying four spoils. His place in the North Melbourne side appears safe with their spate of injuries and he holds a super low -41 break even ahead of Round 9. The only issue is he’s a key defender, which means you should brace for a poor score or two.

Darcy Cameron was Collingwood’s second best scorer with 92 points against West Coast.
4. Darcy Cameron (approx. $196,000, RUCK/FWD) BE: -4 Ave: 64.3
Darcy Cameron has again leapfrogged Mason Cox and cemented his spot in the short-term with a commanding performance in their heavy loss to West Coast. The WA native slotted two early goals and won eight disposals, all contested, including three contested marks. He also spent more time in the ruck, and expect this to continue over the next four rounds as the Magpies look to ease Brodie Grundy through this hectic schedule. Cameron can also provide ruck cover if Max Gawn or Brodie Grundy are managed.

5. Callum Porter ($123,900, MID) | BE: 12 Ave: 39
As mentioned above, Porter’s score was hindered by injury and his midfield minutes were encouraging for his SuperCoach prospects. Luke Beveridge has shown a willingness to play the kids but will he remain in the Bulldogs side long enough to make enough cash?

6. Mitch Georgiades (approx. $180,000, FWD) | BE: -56 Ave: 82
Power youngster Mitch Georgiades shot from 0 points to his halftime score of 56 in an instant, reeling in several contested marks and booting a goal. His scores of 78 and 86 in two games have been very impressive but his non-existent quarter and a half means it may be worth treading carefully, especially as a couple of quiet games could see him dropped. A massive price rise awaits him in Round 9 though if he can continue this form.

Matthew Ling made a long-awaited debut for Sydney in Round 8.

7. Matthew Ling ($123,900, MID) | BE: 4 Ave: 47
Ling, a first-round draft pick in 2017, didn’t set the world on fire from a KFC SuperCoach perspective, but looked assured with ball in hand across halfback. He collected 10 touches and posted 47 points, the second lowest of any Swan. Sydney’s mounting injuries could work in his favour but be sure to check team announcements before making the call. His shaky job security means it’s probably worth paying up for McPherson or McKay if you need a rookie backman.

8. Keegan Brooksby ($117,300, RUCK) | BE: N/A Ave: 55
Keegan Brooksby’s run in the Hawks side is likely to be a brief one with Jon Ceglar’s return looming. Darcy Cameron looks to be a better bet if you are after ruck cover.
 
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DAN BATTEN’S ROOKIE RATINGS
PROJECTIONS COURTESY OF BRICE MITCHELL (@bricemitchell)

1. Brad Close ($109,900, MID/FWD) | BE: 22 Ave: N/A
When the No. 1 rookie option hasn’t even played, you know the cheapie situation is dire. Close averaged 16 touches and 77 points in 21 SANFL games last season but a KFC SuperCoach average of 60 would be enough at his discounted price. DPP status only sweetens the deal over a period where flexibility is a must. Watch his debut with interest as this will give us a better idea of his scoring potential and job security.

2. Andrew McPherson (approx. $215,000, DEF) BE: -15 Ave: 72.6
Hang on, wasn’t Andrew McPherson a bubble boy a fortnight ago? Yes, but with many coaches struggling to field six players in defence, McPherson can help give us some certainty. The 21-year-old lifted to another level when Tom Doedee (hamstring) went off, scoring a season-high 90 points. Nearly half of his 13 disposals per game have been won from intercepts and his job security is rock solid, with his Round 8 effort ensuring at least another fortnight of price rises. Doedee’s injury should only improve his scoring with plenty of footy in winless Adelaide’s back 50.


3. Ben McKay (approx. $192,000, DEF) BE: -41 Ave: 78
KFC SuperCoaches looked at Ben McKay’s score of 82 in Round 7 with understandable scepticism, given the key defender collected just five disposals along with a whopping 15 spoils. The young Roo backed up that total with a solid 70-point score in wet conditions against Carlton, winning more of the footy (10 touches) and tallying four spoils. His place in the North Melbourne side appears safe with their spate of injuries and he holds a super low -41 break even ahead of Round 9. The only issue is he’s a key defender, which means you should brace for a poor score or two.

Darcy Cameron was Collingwood’s second best scorer with 92 points against West Coast.
4. Darcy Cameron (approx. $196,000, RUCK/FWD) BE: -4 Ave: 64.3
Darcy Cameron has again leapfrogged Mason Cox and cemented his spot in the short-term with a commanding performance in their heavy loss to West Coast. The WA native slotted two early goals and won eight disposals, all contested, including three contested marks. He also spent more time in the ruck, and expect this to continue over the next four rounds as the Magpies look to ease Brodie Grundy through this hectic schedule. Cameron can also provide ruck cover if Max Gawn or Brodie Grundy are managed.

5. Callum Porter ($123,900, MID) | BE: 12 Ave: 39
As mentioned above, Porter’s score was hindered by injury and his midfield minutes were encouraging for his SuperCoach prospects. Luke Beveridge has shown a willingness to play the kids but will he remain in the Bulldogs side long enough to make enough cash?

6. Mitch Georgiades (approx. $180,000, FWD) | BE: -56 Ave: 82
Power youngster Mitch Georgiades shot from 0 points to his halftime score of 56 in an instant, reeling in several contested marks and booting a goal. His scores of 78 and 86 in two games have been very impressive but his non-existent quarter and a half means it may be worth treading carefully, especially as a couple of quiet games could see him dropped. A massive price rise awaits him in Round 9 though if he can continue this form.

Matthew Ling made a long-awaited debut for Sydney in Round 8.

7. Matthew Ling ($123,900, MID) | BE: 4 Ave: 47
Ling, a first-round draft pick in 2017, didn’t set the world on fire from a KFC SuperCoach perspective, but looked assured with ball in hand across halfback. He collected 10 touches and posted 47 points, the second lowest of any Swan. Sydney’s mounting injuries could work in his favour but be sure to check team announcements before making the call. His shaky job security means it’s probably worth paying up for McPherson or McKay if you need a rookie backman.

8. Keegan Brooksby ($117,300, RUCK) | BE: N/A Ave: 55
Keegan Brooksby’s run in the Hawks side is likely to be a brief one with Jon Ceglar’s return looming. Darcy Cameron looks to be a better bet if you are after ruck cover.
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Hasn’t been great in the NEAFL.

Ling (123k DEF) 21 yo, 184cm, 79kg
  • Only 16 games played in the past two NEAFL seasons (Toe injury ended his season in 2018)
  • Little impact in those games, only had more than 15 disposals once, averaging 47SC.
  • Across two seasons, rated above average for tackles but below average for disposals, marks, CPs and IPs
  • DE% of 74.4% (2018 NEAFL), 67.8% (2019 NEAFL) and 80.4% (U18C 2017)
  • Doesn’t win enough of the ball to fully capitalize on his ball use (rated elite for both disposal and kicking efficiency)
  • 14th selection in the 2017 draft
Continuing his SC avg of 47 into the big time.
Did anyone who watched the game think he has decent job security for a while? I'm looking to trade Starc out this week but won't know if he or Tobe Watson are named before Lions game.
 

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Continuing his SC avg of 47 into the big time.
Did anyone who watched the game think he has decent job security for a while? I'm looking to trade Starc out this week but won't know if he or Tobe Watson are named before Lions game.
I think Ling will be confirmed before the Brisbane game. Sydney teams out at 6:20pm on Friday, Brisbane players lock out at 8:10pm on Friday (plenty of time right.....)

Tobe Watson won't be and I think with his upcoming bye as well, he's a much better target after a price rise and his bye. Will also get a good idea on his JS as well by then.
 
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I think Ling will be confirmed before the Brisbane game. Sydney teams out at 6:20pm on Friday, Brisbane players lock out at 8:10pm on Friday (plenty of time right.....)

Tobe Watson won't be and I think with his upcoming bye as well, he's a much better target after a price rise and his bye. Will also get a good idea on his JS as well by then.
I must have got my times mixed up or it was one of the games that had the time changed.
That helps. Cheers B18
 

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Do we think Geodude's scoring is sustainable? 7 possessions and a goal for 86 in a losing side seems incredibly generous?
Only 35 DT, so I agree with you.

Personally I am erring on getting him because Hinkley et al seem to like him from what I understood early in the year, and Marshall’s injury seems to help. Geo can obviously score quickly, so hopefully he can clunk the odd mark/jag some goals and make some cash in the coming weeks.
 
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Hasn’t been great in the NEAFL.

Ling (123k DEF) 21 yo, 184cm, 79kg
  • Only 16 games played in the past two NEAFL seasons (Toe injury ended his season in 2018)
  • Little impact in those games, only had more than 15 disposals once, averaging 47SC.
  • Across two seasons, rated above average for tackles but below average for disposals, marks, CPs and IPs
  • DE% of 74.4% (2018 NEAFL), 67.8% (2019 NEAFL) and 80.4% (U18C 2017)
  • Doesn’t win enough of the ball to fully capitalize on his ball use (rated elite for both disposal and kicking efficiency)
  • 14th selection in the 2017 draft
Interesting that Sydney selected him at #14 in the 2017 draft before the likes of Jack Higgins, Oscar Allen, Tim Kelly & Noah Balta. There has to be more to him than just a small defender that barely touches it surely?

Is there a chance he benefits from playing kick to kick in the backline with Lloyd & Rampe? We know Sydney loves that sort of thing...
 
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Messed up my defense e when I moved Rivers back when trading out Williamson last night.
Currently Rivers locked out e, Noble on field and Brander on bench.
Need at least one of them to be named to avoid a donut but if both are named who should I play?
 

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In his first four games, Serong was playing approximately 55-60 per cent game time, with Fremantle managing his work load. But on Monday night against the Cats Serong played 80 per cent of the game – his most this season. The 19-year-old was also given his biggest challenge – a run-with role on Brownlow Medalist and superstar Geelong midfielder Patrick Dangerfield. Carr believes the challenge for Serong and opportunity for more game time gave him the confidence he needed to continue improving. “That was his first opportunity to (spend more time on the ground) and as the game went on he got more confident within his ability to win his one-on-one battles against ‘Danger’ and get in there and win the ball.” Although the Dockers lost, Serong won the battle against his more seasoned opponent collecting 22 disposals, laying seven tackles and gathering three clearances in miserable conditions, enough to earn him one coaches vote (the only Fremantle player to do so) for his efforts.

He’s only five games into his AFL career, but already Carr has seen drastic improvement in Serong’s game. Carr said Serong is best described as coachable and it’s no surprise the recruiters had their eyes on the former Vic Country captain, wanting to draft players who were going to be able to grow with the team. “We want players that are looking to improve and that’s what he’s like,” Carr said. “Each day he comes in he’s always trying to get better and because of that each week that he’s played AFL football, he has improved.”

 
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