Position SC 2021: Forward Discussion
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I would not be surprised Richmond chasing Dunkley as they were keen on him in his draft year!
https://www.afl.com.au/news/528418/future-pick-trades-who-you-should-barrack-against-next-year
https://www.afl.com.au/news/528418/future-pick-trades-who-you-should-barrack-against-next-year
Yeah, I understand that 95 would be his "floor" but if that scenario eventuated, he would still be a poor starting selection at 560k.
The counterarguments that the non-starters would be "scrambling to get him" seems less likely to me as he seems unlikely to get the mid time to push 110+. I think it would be only the very elite players that can score 110+ with only a 50/50 split in mid/fwd time. Although I can't really recall a player scoring at a 110 avg with a 50/50 split in mid/fwd time.
The counterarguments that the non-starters would be "scrambling to get him" seems less likely to me as he seems unlikely to get the mid time to push 110+. I think it would be only the very elite players that can score 110+ with only a 50/50 split in mid/fwd time. Although I can't really recall a player scoring at a 110 avg with a 50/50 split in mid/fwd time.
Others I could think of would be KPF such as Franklin, Riewoldt or J. Brown but I guess technically they would fail as they don't have the 50% midfield time!
Others that probably do qualify or go very close would be Deledio, Nathan Brown, Pavlich (may belong above, can't remember if he did it in the years he played mid or just as a pure forward), Gray, Stevie J and Ablett.
None the less it still stands that it's an absurdly limited group and all of those names are drastically better forwards than Dunkley. That's basically the elite of the elite small/mid forwards of the past 15+ years and Dunkley is more of the "good for a midfielder" type forward.
Interesting thing drifting back to check a few actually made it to 110 was how common it used to be for KPF to score 110, that and that Darren Milburn and Will Minson both had 110+ seasons that I'd completely forgotten about
Others that probably do qualify or go very close would be Deledio, Nathan Brown, Pavlich (may belong above, can't remember if he did it in the years he played mid or just as a pure forward), Gray, Stevie J and Ablett.
None the less it still stands that it's an absurdly limited group and all of those names are drastically better forwards than Dunkley. That's basically the elite of the elite small/mid forwards of the past 15+ years and Dunkley is more of the "good for a midfielder" type forward.
Interesting thing drifting back to check a few actually made it to 110 was how common it used to be for KPF to score 110, that and that Darren Milburn and Will Minson both had 110+ seasons that I'd completely forgotten about
Others I could think of would be KPF such as Franklin, Riewoldt or J. Brown but I guess technically they would fail as they don't have the 50% midfield time!
Others that probably do qualify or go very close would be Deledio, Nathan Brown, Pavlich (may belong above, can't remember if he did it in the years he played mid or just as a pure forward), Gray, Stevie J and Ablett.
None the less it still stands that it's an absurdly limited group and all of those names are drastically better forwards than Dunkley. That's basically the elite of the elite small/mid forwards of the past 15+ years and Dunkley is more of the "good for a midfielder" type forward.
Interesting thing drifting back to check a few actually made it to 110 was how common it used to be for KPF to score 110, that and that Darren Milburn and Will Minson both had 110+ seasons that I'd completely forgotten about
Others that probably do qualify or go very close would be Deledio, Nathan Brown, Pavlich (may belong above, can't remember if he did it in the years he played mid or just as a pure forward), Gray, Stevie J and Ablett.
None the less it still stands that it's an absurdly limited group and all of those names are drastically better forwards than Dunkley. That's basically the elite of the elite small/mid forwards of the past 15+ years and Dunkley is more of the "good for a midfielder" type forward.
Interesting thing drifting back to check a few actually made it to 110 was how common it used to be for KPF to score 110, that and that Darren Milburn and Will Minson both had 110+ seasons that I'd completely forgotten about
If you’re expecting Dunkley to only get 50/50 m/f time, hard to see him pushing more than 100-105 unless he matches the elite of the elite in that role.
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Dom Sheed filled that role for me in 2019, if he avg well enough then the rest of the team gets built around him as normal. Was hard to get out of my side as he was getting 30d 1or 2 goals and still only scoring 92 to 98, champion daa was giving him nothing as not Cont poss and no tackles, while Danger and Neale were getting 7 to 11 pts for a frrkn 2m hb to a bloke immediately under pressure.
His value came after his byes as he got some better scoring from CD (finally) and with some good upgrades through the byes i had a huge run from roughly 18000ish (9000>6000>3200>into top 1200) or something like that. in a month, inc 4th overall round. I had a shocker with Whitfield early i traded Williams to him, Whit went 85 then 4 or some **** and out for a month so i blew from 6000th round 4ish out to 32000th by week 5 or 6? and Williams now out of my team went HAM!👀
Anyways the issue for me was at the very end of the year his inconsistency through finals i think he had 2 good games but should have upgraded him. If you have a bad run from another premo and a player like sheed that CD may or may not score well then your comprimised.
I suppose best way to describe was i had 3 blokes that offered value that year, but whether on not CD are gonna let these blokes get back into a game or not....? Its guesswork? :...i thought they were robbed.....Salem, B.Crouch, Sheed ....when they lined up they were like the moons of Jupiter whose gravity affected their molten cores into furious activity....as seen by my run home....when not they were cold and dead haha 💯
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Stick to your guns. I think he is less than 95 if <20% forward so the range is there for some seriously bad outcomes. There is FOMO with Dunkley because the bloke can score, 173 and 202 in 2019, but he won't be in that role full time, so don't worry. That said, I'm backing him in. Dunks, Marshall and Dusty are the only ones I'd consider starting, and all 3 have '?' re: role or whether they'll bloody turn up to play. Heeney is low risk, but the midpricer at F1 is making more sense by the day... until it doesn't.
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Couldn’t get a game last year (bar one) ahead of Ratugolea in the forward line with Hawkins, nor as a ruckman when Fort and Stanley were injured at times. With Jeremy Cameron’s arrival I can’t see his chances of consistent games improving at all unfortunately. They also have Kreuger who was named EMG a few times last year and was not far off breaking in, in that similar forward/ruck role.