Position SC 2021: Forward Discussion

[BomberSam]

Caldwell, Ziebell, Joey, Impey, Cahill, Warner (Rowe, Brockman) with Danger at M5.

Thoughts?

 

[BomberArmy]

Anyone else currently with Dunkley getting cold feet?

 

[Herbie66]

From looking at Ziebell at F1/F2 he has now slid to F5 😀

Danger , Dunks , Dusty , Zorko
Ziebell
Fullarton / Jones , Rowe

 

[donnybuang]

Anyone else currently with Dunkley getting cold feet?

Not for a second.

 

[donnybuang]

From looking at Ziebell at F1/F2 he has now slid to F5 😀

Danger , Dunks , Dusty , Zorko
Ziebell
Fullarton / Jones , Rowe

How's your backline?

 

[Herbie66]

How's your backline?

Seagull , Laird , Daniel , Stewart
Fantasia
Highmore / Koschitzke , Sharp (?)

 

[wogitalia]

After having Daniher the entire preseason I’m now beginning to wonder why/how he is a better option than Dow or a Rookie.

His scoring history is terrible and his durability even worse... I guess I was lured by the idea he might pump out a 5 goal 120+ score and he has great JS. Nothing like questioning everything at the 11th hour

Fark, when an entire season of 86 is a terrible scoring history you know that Rowell really has broken all reasonable expectations for rookie priced players!

 

[Connoisseur]

After having Daniher the entire preseason I’m now beginning to wonder why/how he is a better option than Dow or a Rookie.

His scoring history is terrible and his durability even worse... I guess I was lured by the idea he might pump out a 5 goal 120+ score and he has great JS. Nothing like questioning everything at the 11th hour

Daniher is Tanner Bruhn... for 75k more with poor durability and no DPP

(yes I know Bruhn isn't a key forward)

J Daniher:
Wins Avg since 2016: 89.1 from 20 (low of 55 and a high of 134, 7/20 below 80, 13/20 below 100, 2/20 120+)
Goals= 55
2 or more goals in 17 of 20 wins.

 

[Under The Dome]

Fark, when an entire season of 86 is a terrible scoring history you know that Rowell really has broken all reasonable expectations for rookie priced players!

Just now a 495k rookie.

 

[Borris]

Fark, when an entire season of 86 is a terrible scoring history you know that Rowell really has broken all reasonable expectations for rookie priced players!

1 season out of 8... I hear your point with the price though, which is why I stuck with him.
Here’s hoping he makes it 2/9 seasons with an average greater than 68

 

[Santoz]

Anyone concerned that Impey cops Clarko's sub shenanigans?

 

[freowho]

Anyone concerned that Impey cops Clarko's sub shenanigans?

I am worried about his fitness but really don't like anyone else in that spot. None of Daniher, Cox, Cahill, Fullarton, Bergman or Bruhn in the mids fill me with confidence. I'm really tempted to put Valente in the mids as a donut to play given Blakely is playing.

 

[BomberSam]

Worried I've screwed myself over by starting Caldwell and Phillips. Danger, Dunkley and Dusty a clear top 3 (in no order). Reckon Caldwell, Phillips, Ziebell could be my next 3 unless I have spare trades when I hit full premo. Hopefully no other ultra prems emerge and these 3 can compete with the rest of the chasing pack in the 90 - 95 range.

 

[Pieman17]

Worried I've screwed myself over by starting Caldwell and Phillips. Danger, Dunkley and Dusty a clear top 3 (in no order). Reckon Caldwell, Phillips, Ziebell could be my next 3 unless I have spare trades when I hit full premo. Hopefully no other ultra prems emerge and these 3 can compete with the rest of the chasing pack in the 90 - 95 range.

You could easily move Caldwell and/or Phillips at their bye to an emerging top forward.

 

[Johnsy44]

With talk of Franklin returning this week, I would think that helps Heeney for scoring? Not making him trapped FF as often

 

[Grundogging]

Worried I've screwed myself over by starting Caldwell and Phillips. Danger, Dunkley and Dusty a clear top 3 (in no order). Reckon Caldwell, Phillips, Ziebell could be my next 3 unless I have spare trades when I hit full premo. Hopefully no other ultra prems emerge and these 3 can compete with the rest of the chasing pack in the 90 - 95 range.

Phillips will be fine - the Hawks appear to be using him exactly how he should be used (as a link man on the wing), the new stand rule takes a lot of pressure off his kicking and his elite endurance will come to the fore more as the season wears on.

I liked a lot of what I saw from Caldwell too - he's strong at the stoppages, is elusive in traffic and is a tackling machine, but like most kids needs to tidy up his kicking. Remember he only has 10 games under his belt, so he will continue to improve with more time in the middle.

Both are worth persisting with imo as potential F5-6 keepers.

 

[pizza safety]

James Rowe was a disposal winning forward in the SANFL who scored a lot of SC points (96 average last year), which is not always the case for forwards who kick a reasonable amount of goals. It was apparent against Geelong that he's given the freedom to play up the ground and his work up the ground was some of his best stuff. Not all forward pockets are asked to play deep, some are given permission to roam further up the ground, especially when they have creativity and skill. It's not only flankers who drift up the ground. He won't repeat that score very often but I reckon he's gonna average high 60's - low 70's from now on.

 

[Under The Dome]

James Rowe was a disposal winning forward in the SANFL who scored a lot of SC points (96 average last year), which is not always the case for forwards who kick a reasonable amount of goals. It was apparent against Geelong that he's given the freedom to play up the ground and his work up the ground was some of his best stuff. Not all forward pockets are asked to play deep, some are given permission to roam further up the ground, especially when they have creativity and skill. It's not only flankers who drift up the ground. He won't repeat that score very often but I reckon he's gonna average high 60's - low 70's from now on.

Was a joy to watch when he didn't play my side. Always dominated my side so it is a love/hate relationship. Would have easily fielded him if Bergman wasn't announced.

 

[Wheedus]

Not all forward pockets are asked to play deep, some are given permission to roam further up the ground, especially when they have creativity and skill. It's not only flankers who drift up the ground. He won't repeat that score very often but I reckon he's gonna average high 60's - low 70's from now on.

TBH there's no such thing as a "deep forward" these days. Other than at centre bounces, every player is within 50-60 metres of the ball during general play. Pretty much every forward (particularly the smalls) roams up the ground, which is why so many "junior" midfielders with elite tanks can thrive in a forward role.

 

[Darkie]

With talk of Franklin returning this week, I would think that helps Heeney for scoring? Not making him trapped FF as often

I just came here to ask the same question.

Interested in any thoughts!