Opinion SC 2021: Rate My Team
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Only difference between he and Daniher is 38k in my opinion - I prefer Daniher because he's cheaper but don't get the complete dislike for Fantasia when people like Joe as a pick. If both stay fit they'll likely average over 80 in my opinion, if they don't they won't. I'm just picking Daniher now but I think both are decent picks.
When he was on the field in 2018 Fantasia was one our best 3 players despite being injured throughout that season as well, and Daniher was our best player in 2017.
When he was on the field in 2018 Fantasia was one our best 3 players despite being injured throughout that season as well, and Daniher was our best player in 2017.
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Did anyone see Fantasia play against Adelaide? about as good and dynamic as he has looked since 2018 - he's a small forward and half forward flank and you're not expecting massive scores from him, but at Port, if he can stay healthy, I'd predict low 80's as his average. The concern for me is just injury.
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I like Fantasia but there's a lot of competition there. Butters will get the best role. Gray is the main forward. Rozee is back sooner than later most likely and would also take a lot of it. It's a lot harder as the 4th/5th option up forward than as the 1st/2nd option like he was for the Bombers.
He definitely could do it but it's a big ask. Fantasia's value to me is that he's a DPP back, not sure that's worth the 38k but for those not wanting to pick 5 defender premiums from the outset he has a real value.
He definitely could do it but it's a big ask. Fantasia's value to me is that he's a DPP back, not sure that's worth the 38k but for those not wanting to pick 5 defender premiums from the outset he has a real value.
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Loving this thread now we are are so close to the start of the marathon, great stuff for those posting sides and those providing feedback.
My turn to put my thoughts out there... with the unknowns in the rookies i much prefer a side that has guys that aren't as sexy on paper but will score week in week out, and maximise the number of prems on field and minimise the trades needed to go full prem.
Maybe gone too far in the rucks tho..... really coming down to an x vs y now of say Hunter/macrae vs grundy/102k rook, or similar. But like this side whichever way the x/y settles.
Im playing for overall and think those starting with only 12 prems with Grawndy and Neale and lloyd (and going for overall) might struggle to complete their sides, different if league is your aim. Just my 2c and that's what makes this game so fun. I strongly feel your trading strategy after the end of round 1 is more important than who you started, or didn't start, as no one will nail every pick. I didn't start grawndy or lloyd last year and did ok, prepared to go this route again as i think the rucks are potentiality the best rookies this year.
My out plan if the rucks really go pear shaped is ditch a prem somewhere and bring in Marshall when he's back early, or start the "Super early 2022 strategy" thread lol.
Another risk is Kelly, injury always a worry, so it's either him or fyfe, or could be mitchell or even adams, lol all injury risks after the previous spiel.
Really think the interchange rule will suit gaff, not expecting a breakout (he's past that age wise), but every game at 104-108 means no headaches and forms part of a great mid base. Cripps for potential worth the risk as well.
Maximise every dollar, and hopefully that means I've got 14 solid prems, (inc 2 breakouts bolton, duggan) and daniher/ziebs. Doc and dunkley are the ones im least sold on, and without llllllloyd I've really locked in all 6 Defs, either genius or stupidity, time will tell.
Feedback appreciated!
My turn to put my thoughts out there... with the unknowns in the rookies i much prefer a side that has guys that aren't as sexy on paper but will score week in week out, and maximise the number of prems on field and minimise the trades needed to go full prem.
Maybe gone too far in the rucks tho..... really coming down to an x vs y now of say Hunter/macrae vs grundy/102k rook, or similar. But like this side whichever way the x/y settles.
Im playing for overall and think those starting with only 12 prems with Grawndy and Neale and lloyd (and going for overall) might struggle to complete their sides, different if league is your aim. Just my 2c and that's what makes this game so fun. I strongly feel your trading strategy after the end of round 1 is more important than who you started, or didn't start, as no one will nail every pick. I didn't start grawndy or lloyd last year and did ok, prepared to go this route again as i think the rucks are potentiality the best rookies this year.
My out plan if the rucks really go pear shaped is ditch a prem somewhere and bring in Marshall when he's back early, or start the "Super early 2022 strategy" thread lol.
Another risk is Kelly, injury always a worry, so it's either him or fyfe, or could be mitchell or even adams, lol all injury risks after the previous spiel.
Really think the interchange rule will suit gaff, not expecting a breakout (he's past that age wise), but every game at 104-108 means no headaches and forms part of a great mid base. Cripps for potential worth the risk as well.
Maximise every dollar, and hopefully that means I've got 14 solid prems, (inc 2 breakouts bolton, duggan) and daniher/ziebs. Doc and dunkley are the ones im least sold on, and without llllllloyd I've really locked in all 6 Defs, either genius or stupidity, time will tell.
Feedback appreciated!
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To me the question is more whether or not he will be fit, I've seen him do things as a player which have convinced me can play well as a flanker and I think Port will look to utilise that. He is a very good kick inside 50 and a great lead up mark up the ground when he has been healthy. I imagine that Gray/Rozee with his foot issue could play some time deep or in the midfield to let Fantasia roam up the ground a bit, you're right that Butters will have the best role - he will play purely on the flank and occasionally in the midfield.
I've never really bought into the idea that forwards are worse off on the whole when they've got other quality forwards to play with. The negatives from point sharing are probably more outweighed by the positives from the increased number of score involvements and the lack of attention/poorer quality opponents they get from being in an evenly distributed team.
Last year they had Dixon average 92, Gray average 91 and Butters averaged 87 whilst playing over 65% of time forward. I imagine Gray/Butters might get more mid time and Fantasia could join the party. I'm just of the opinion that he'll average low 80's if he's fit, but he's a significant injury risk.
Considering how bad the rookie prospects are this year due to a lack of data I like the pick, upon reflection starting he and Daniher together is probably too risky, although they're basically the same SC player if you take out price. If you take out the game that started his groin injuries in R20, 2017 where he scored 7, he also averaged 77 in that year - so basically went 77 and then 83 in a season where he played his best football whilst chronically injured.
I've never really bought into the idea that forwards are worse off on the whole when they've got other quality forwards to play with. The negatives from point sharing are probably more outweighed by the positives from the increased number of score involvements and the lack of attention/poorer quality opponents they get from being in an evenly distributed team.
Last year they had Dixon average 92, Gray average 91 and Butters averaged 87 whilst playing over 65% of time forward. I imagine Gray/Butters might get more mid time and Fantasia could join the party. I'm just of the opinion that he'll average low 80's if he's fit, but he's a significant injury risk.
Considering how bad the rookie prospects are this year due to a lack of data I like the pick, upon reflection starting he and Daniher together is probably too risky, although they're basically the same SC player if you take out price. If you take out the game that started his groin injuries in R20, 2017 where he scored 7, he also averaged 77 in that year - so basically went 77 and then 83 in a season where he played his best football whilst chronically injured.
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Love it overall. I don't like the bolton pick, swap for a hawk ;-). Use the funds to upgrade dunk/dusty to danger, or perhaps duggan to short/mcdonald. It'd probably take both short+mcdonald > ridley+doc, as I'm not a doc fan. Good luck if you stick with this route - I can't bring myself not to start grundy...I think he's cheap!
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This is what @Connoisseur posted from 0:33 he didn't look too good on his injured ankle.
Loving the thought process mate, thinking exactly the same in regards to maximsing the amount of premos onfield that play every week rather than try and overload on the most expensive guys. Gawn is my one exception, I cannot ignore his soft early draw and his C security, especially as I'm not planning on starting a loophole. I've got 11 guys from last years Top 100 averages, plus Taranto Phillips Caldwell, aswell as Ziebell Daniher Clark.
