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@tso and @Connoisseur, what did you think of this year's rumble?

Unfortunately, I was quite disappointed. Here are my match grades:

Women's Rumble: B
Fatal 4 Way: C-
Logan Paul vs Kevin Owens: C+
Men's Rumble: C

The main things that I was disappointed in were:
*the lack of suspense/uncertainty in the fatal 4 way (I felt more during the Rollins vs Mahal match on Raw)
*A lacklustre finish in the Paul vs Owens match
*Not enough returns or legend entries in the Men's rumble e.g. No Rey Mysterio, Sheamus, or Shamrock
*Wasting a rumble spot on Pat McAfee eliminating himself in less than a minute
*Cody winning back to back didn't make sense to me from a storytelling perspective
 
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@tso and @Connoisseur, what did you think of this year's rumble?

Unfortunately, I was quite disappointed. Here are my match grades:

Women's Rumble: B
Fatal 4 Way: C-
Logan Paul vs Kevin Owens: C+
Men's Rumble: C

The main things that I was disappointed in were:
*the lack of suspense/uncertainty in the fatal 4 way (I felt more during the Rollins vs Mahal match on Raw)
*A lacklustre finish in the Paul vs Owens match
*Not enough returns or legend entries in the Men's rumble e.g. No Rey Mysterio, Sheamus, or Shamrock
*Wasting a rumble spot on Pat McAfee eliminating himself in less than a minute
*Cody winning back to back didn't make sense to me from a storytelling perspective
Yeah it was a bit flat.
Reigns matches are boring and predictible.
Rhodes and Punk the ending dragged on a bit.
Guessing with Seth uncertainty they have gone Reigns v Rhodes part 2.
 
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Well done @tso on predicting the Women's rumble winner. đź‘Źđź‘Źđź‘Ź
Thanks for asking both of us for predictions as I thoroughly enjoyed having a longer ponder about what might transpire. Nearly got 4/4 winners (missed the Men’s rumble with Punk), 3/7 with returns and debuts (Andrade, NaomI and Jade), picked the final five in the Men’s and Bayley as the ironwoman.
 

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Soon as Jey came out you kinda knew Jimmy would be 2 ;)
And Jey as the Ironman. :eek: Did not see that coming but helps when you can catch your breath in the corner on a regular basis. Would have thought one would have been involved in the elimination of the other to further progress the story, if the endgame is a mania match and thus seemed to be a fizzer.
 

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https://www.f4wonline.com/news/wwe/...-bron-breakker-in-wwe-mens-royal-rumble-match

Apparently, Bron Breakker was the late rumble substitute for Brock Lesnar.

What I don't understand is, if Bron Breakker followed the complete script that the WWE had for Brock, why was Bron eliminated by Dominik Mysterio? I find it hard to believe that Brock was scripted to be eliminated by Dirty Dom.
Usually I take the dirt sheets (Meltzer, etc) with a grain of salt as I feel it would very easy to intentionally have an inside source relaying incorrect news/plans/etc for swerves, etc without the reporter being none the wiser if you can frame it in a way that makes logical sense.
 
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Thanks for asking both of us for predictions as I thoroughly enjoyed having a longer ponder about what might transpire. Nearly got 4/4 winners (missed the Men’s rumble with Punk), 3/7 with returns and debuts (Andrade, NaomI and Jade), picked the final five in the Men’s and Bayley as the ironwoman.
I used to run both a prediction and fantasy comp on digital spy.
They still do the prediction one on their.

Just found the original fantasy comp which i romped :love: 2011 :eek:

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/1428966/wwe-fantasy-comp-starts-30th-jan-win-a-prize/p1

Quite a few still active :oops:
A few i don't remember at all :unsure: even after googling them :ROFLMAO:
Women's roster looked quite weak too.
 
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https://www.f4wonline.com/news/wwe/...-bron-breakker-in-wwe-mens-royal-rumble-match

Apparently, Bron Breakker was the late rumble substitute for Brock Lesnar.

What I don't understand is, if Bron Breakker followed the complete script that the WWE had for Brock, why was Bron eliminated by Dominik Mysterio? I find it hard to believe that Brock was scripted to be eliminated by Dirty Dom.
I stand corrected. Apparently, Brock was meant to be eliminated by Dominik Mysterio in order to set up a clash between the two at Elimination Chamber.

View: https://youtu.be/kRx3fWbElzY?feature=shared
 
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Usually I take the dirt sheets (Meltzer, etc) with a grain of salt as I feel it would very easy to intentionally have an inside source relaying incorrect news/plans/etc for swerves, etc without the reporter being none the wiser if you can frame it in a way that makes logical sense.
So true!
 
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Thanks for asking both of us for predictions as I thoroughly enjoyed having a longer ponder about what might transpire. Nearly got 4/4 winners (missed the Men’s rumble with Punk), 3/7 with returns and debuts (Andrade, NaomI and Jade), picked the final five in the Men’s and Bayley as the ironwoman.
Great work, @Connoisseur. đź‘Źđź‘Źđź‘Ź

I missed both rumble winners, but picked the title match winners. I didn't pick Bayley to win because I thought, and still think, that the damage control mutiny storyline wasn't developed enough yet. I didn't pick Cody because back to back wins are so rare, The Rock being on the scene, and because I feel that it would be better from a storyline perspective for him to have to go through EC or something else to get to Reigns again.
 

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@tso and @Connoisseur, what did you think of this year's rumble?

Unfortunately, I was quite disappointed. Here are my match grades:

Women's Rumble: B
Fatal 4 Way: C-
Logan Paul vs Kevin Owens: C+
Men's Rumble: C

The main things that I was disappointed in were:
*the lack of suspense/uncertainty in the fatal 4 way (I felt more during the Rollins vs Mahal match on Raw)
*A lacklustre finish in the Paul vs Owens match
*Not enough returns or legend entries in the Men's rumble e.g. No Rey Mysterio, Sheamus, or Shamrock
*Wasting a rumble spot on Pat McAfee eliminating himself in less than a minute
*Cody winning back to back didn't make sense to me from a storytelling perspective
Pretty much similar to my thoughts with the women’s rumble the highlight. Jade’s debut and spot with Nia, Naomi’s return and Grace’s debut (TNA mentioned), Chelsea Green on the wrong end of many moves, Truth’s comedy spot, quick elimination at the end for Bayley to be champ and so on. Felt like more thought was put into the spots or setting up future battles than the men’s rumble.

As we have all raised previously the Bloodline story seems to have run its course and thus is mainly filler until the title change. Doesn’t help when the faces/competitors never realise that putting their differences aside and teaming together to take full advantage of the no dq rules would have removed Roman from the equation and made it a triple threat.:LOL:

I did like the finish in Paul VS Owens with the ref spotting the brass knuckles as usually it makes the babyface look weak by not adopting the “heel” tactics to hide them but since Kevin is a tweener it feels like it matters less.

At least Pat played his dumb character to a T by going over the top rope instead of through the middle. :ROFLMAO: Feels pointless when you have the likes of Chad Gable missing out entirely.

As @tso mentioned it seems wise to be flexible with the secondary title in case Rollins cannot make it to mania and it needs to be vacated, Priest cashes in prior, match becomes a triple threat depending on results at the Chamber, etc to ease him back and so on. Other than Cody, options were limited for Reigns and with the Netflix deal I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rock set up the match at Mania or the Raw after mania for the following years event, similar to the Rock VS Cena build over a year. Mainstream star involved to attract those new subscribers to start their time with Netflix.
 
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Pretty much similar to my thoughts with the women’s rumble the highlight. Jade’s debut and spot with Nia, Naomi’s return and Grace’s debut (TNA mentioned), Chelsea Green on the wrong end of many moves, Truth’s comedy spot, quick elimination at the end for Bayley to be champ and so on. Felt like more thought was put into the spots or setting up future battles than the men’s rumble.

As we have all raised previously the Bloodline story seems to have run its course and thus is mainly filler until the title change. Doesn’t help when the faces/competitors never realise that putting their differences aside and teaming together to take full advantage of the no dq rules would have removed Roman from the equation and made it a triple threat.:LOL:

I did like the finish in Paul VS Owens with the ref spotting the brass knuckles as usually it makes the babyface look weak by not adopting the “heel” tactics to hide them but since Kevin is a tweener it feels like it matters less.

At least Pat played his dumb character to a T by going over the top rope instead of through the middle. :ROFLMAO: Feels pointless when you have the likes of Chad Gable missing out entirely.

As @tso mentioned it seems wise to be flexible with the secondary title in case Rollins cannot make it to mania and it needs to be vacated, Priest cashes in prior, match becomes a triple threat depending on results at the Chamber, etc to ease him back and so on. Other than Cody, options were limited for Reigns and with the Netflix deal I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rock set up the match at Mania or the Raw after mania for the following years event, similar to the Rock VS Cena build over a year. Mainstream star involved to attract those new subscribers to start their time with Netflix.
The Netflix deal possibly affecting the timing of The Rock vs Reigns is a good call. The only thing is, will Reigns still be using the 'Head of the Table' gimmick in 2025? If Cody beats Roman at WM surely Reigns goes away for a while. Would he come back with a 'I'm still head of the table' gimmick? I ask because it seems like the family/head of the table element is the underpinning logic between a Rock vs Reigns feud.
 

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@tso and @Connoisseur, what did you think of this year's rumble?

Unfortunately, I was quite disappointed. Here are my match grades:

Women's Rumble: B
Fatal 4 Way: C-
Logan Paul vs Kevin Owens: C+
Men's Rumble: C

The main things that I was disappointed in were:
*the lack of suspense/uncertainty in the fatal 4 way (I felt more during the Rollins vs Mahal match on Raw)
*A lacklustre finish in the Paul vs Owens match
*Not enough returns or legend entries in the Men's rumble e.g. No Rey Mysterio, Sheamus, or Shamrock
*Wasting a rumble spot on Pat McAfee eliminating himself in less than a minute
*Cody winning back to back didn't make sense to me from a storytelling perspective
Also could have felt like a lackluster card given that neither of the tag titles, women's titles, secondary championship and the intercontinental title were not being defended on the card.
 
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