Opinion 2024 AFL SuperCoach Planning Thread
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I am careful about posting rumours regarding players however I found this as posted on BF Bulldogs Pre Season thread yesterday. Decided to put this up given English is a key SC player. Apparently concussion symptoms can last for a year in some cases but I am not sure where, if it is concussion, he would have picked it up. Suggest this be taken with a pinch of salt for now but maybe a watch on this space.
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Hard to take seriously given the phrasing is not definitive & vague and would depend on the credibility of the poster and those “contacts”. Also, remember how oversaturated the AFL media market is given everyone is training the house down with personal bests and role changes galore given Lobb’s previous insistence not to play ruck.
Necessary to look deeper into the situation:
Ruck depth in Sweet looks to have left them very thin in the position judging by player heights and ages (would prefer to default to a WB supporter and this is where depth charts would be extremely beneficial) which is where Lobb could come into play given his acquisition in the previous year with an undefined role. Either the Dogs had no faith in their current stocks or had to meet the TPP salary floor so threw money down a well for Lobb, planning on the worst case scenario of an English injury for added flexibility over the term of the contract.
Depending on how important they feel English is to their onfield success it seems pointless to risk him during insignificant contract training sessions, as the expectation would be that they have a low risk appetite given the aforementioned areas of potential concern. What benefit is received from a contact training session and does it outweigh the risk?
Necessary to look deeper into the situation:
Ruck depth in Sweet looks to have left them very thin in the position judging by player heights and ages (would prefer to default to a WB supporter and this is where depth charts would be extremely beneficial) which is where Lobb could come into play given his acquisition in the previous year with an undefined role. Either the Dogs had no faith in their current stocks or had to meet the TPP salary floor so threw money down a well for Lobb, planning on the worst case scenario of an English injury for added flexibility over the term of the contract.
Depending on how important they feel English is to their onfield success it seems pointless to risk him during insignificant contract training sessions, as the expectation would be that they have a low risk appetite given the aforementioned areas of potential concern. What benefit is received from a contact training session and does it outweigh the risk?
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lot of love for Serong. Ironically I looked at these two and came with a decision that Brayshaw was better.
Serong had a stronger 1H of the season and Brayshaw 2H was mainly the basis. You could argue as Brayshaw rose over his issues that it was detrimental to Serong. Yet Serong apparently was carrying an ankle injury as wasn’t training much in the 2H of the season.
Not sure if Serong injury was short term or gling to be an ongoing issue.
Brayshaw more the pick as we know he had sonething that he recovered from and his nimbers are deflated by his 1H issue. Equally if Serong is over ankle injury then maybe both are value.
Unfortunately Fremantle is a bad team for info. They lie consistently last year. How many times to the coach say something and then step back from it. There was little transparency on any if the injuries. Felt like they were in the NMb camp of information dissemination.
Serong had a stronger 1H of the season and Brayshaw 2H was mainly the basis. You could argue as Brayshaw rose over his issues that it was detrimental to Serong. Yet Serong apparently was carrying an ankle injury as wasn’t training much in the 2H of the season.
Not sure if Serong injury was short term or gling to be an ongoing issue.
Brayshaw more the pick as we know he had sonething that he recovered from and his nimbers are deflated by his 1H issue. Equally if Serong is over ankle injury then maybe both are value.
Unfortunately Fremantle is a bad team for info. They lie consistently last year. How many times to the coach say something and then step back from it. There was little transparency on any if the injuries. Felt like they were in the NMb camp of information dissemination.
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Josh Weddle carried on his status as the time trial king at Hawthorn by cruising away from the field in Hawthorn’s return to training.
The young running machine, who will this year take over the No.23 jumper famously worn by Hawthorn legends such as Don Scott, Dermott Brereton and Lance Franklin, powered away from regular winner Finn Maginness with ease.
The running machine previously took out a yoyo test and time trial late last year in the early weeks of pre-season and showed no signs of slowing down as the Hawks worked through some ball movement drills in hot sunshine on Wednesday.
The club did cop a blow late in the session, with Will Day leaving the track to have a scan on his foot which revealed a stress fracture and has the star in doubt for round 1.
Josh Weddle was uncatchable. Picture: Ian Currie
Jack Ginnivan covers up from the sun. Picture: Ian Currie
Ginnivan sporting a new look. Picture: Ian Currie
Recruits Jack Ginnivan, sporting a new man-bun hairstyle, and Mabior Chol were in the thick of the action playing typical roles as half-forwards.
The Hawks nearly had a full complement on the track at Waverley, with Chad Wingard (achilles) and Changkuoth Jiath absent.
Wingard was in the gym working on his rehab, while Jiath is on the way back from Qatar, where he has been working through a fitness regimen to put groin, achilles and calf problems behind him.
Veteran Jack Gunston spent some time working away from the main group as he goes through his own program.
Nursed through to the new year while recovering from a sore foot, key forward Mitch Lewis moved freely and took part in the main session.
Youngster Seamus Mitchell also ran laps as his teammates slogged it out.
Assistants Adrian Hickmott and Brett Ratten were in full voice with Sam Mitchell not due back from illness until Monday, while defensive coach Kade Simpson moved like he could still play on one lead up to the ball.
Adrian Hickmott has a word with James Sicily. Picture: Ian Currie
Jack Gunston launches at goal. Picture: Ian Currie
Mabior Chol. Picture: Ian Currie
CENTRE FOCUS
As most Hawks cooled down with some set shots to finish the session, the engine room got together in the middle of Waverley.
Ruck Lloyd Meek and Ned Reeves worked with the regular group of Hawthorn midfielders James Worpel, Conor Nash and Jai Newcombe on some centre bounce strategies.
Youngsters Cam Mackenzie and Henry Hustwaite also joined the group, with Hustwaite showing off quality lateral movement with ball in hand.
Mackenzie spent some time in the guts in his debut season but only had seven centre clearances in 14 matches and may face more time in the middle in 2024.
Forgotten onballer Cooper Stephens and young talent Josh Ward later joined the group.
The Hawks are keen to add to their main group of centre bounce midfielders after seeing some success with the group of Worpel, Nash, Newcombe and Will Day in 2023.
Hawthorn back at training with Josh Weddle, Jack Ginnivan, Jack Gunston, Mabior Chol | Herald Sun