Discussion 2024: Rate My Team

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I know this is a typo, but you definitely don't want your rookies to Moe - neither the Gippsland town or the Simpsons character would be a great result. :ROFLMAO:

(I'm sure anyone familiar with the town of Moe would agree).

I do like your overall strategy though. Easier to drop a rookie down if you need a bit of cash than having to sacrifice a premium to upgrade a bottom priced non playing rookie.
I might have invented a new word 😀

Played a National Indoor Soccer Championship in Moe many , many years ago , nice Chinese restaurant from memory.

Exactly right.

Probably could have used 8 x $ 102k priced bench players and said wow "look at my side" and as unrealistic as can be.

Cheaper rookies (will) appear probably gives me another $ 200-300k to play with for Round 1 so be able to easily make adjustments.

Happy with those premiums for this time of the year.
 
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Early days:

D: N.Daicos, Sheezel, Young, Williams, Curtin, O’Sullivan (Gibcus, Coffield)

M: Dawson, Butters, Gulden, Walsh, Miller, N.Martin, McKercher, Watson (Sharp, Clark, Mannagh)

R: Grundy, Sweet (Livingstone)

F: Jackson, Greene, Flanders, Reid, Walter, Duursma (Wilson, Cadman)

Note: have f/r link if Sweet doesn’t play. So can move Jackson there.
 
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I know this is a typo, but you definitely don't want your rookies to Moe - neither the Gippsland town or the Simpsons character would be a great result. :ROFLMAO:

(I'm sure anyone familiar with the town of Moe would agree).

I do like your overall strategy though. Easier to drop a rookie down if you need a bit of cash than having to sacrifice a premium to upgrade a bottom priced non playing rookie.
I am very familiar with Moe. I live there. I don’t really understand what you mean but suspect I should be offended.
 
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I am very familiar with Moe. I live there. I don’t really understand what you mean but suspect I should be offended.
I grew up not far from there. It may have improved since those days, but I thought everyone knew the name Moe is an acronym for Moccasins On Everyone - it used to be not far from the truth. I seem to remember a Street Talk on the Footy Show from Moe which indicated that it may not have changed much at that stage, but that would have been a decade or more ago now.

Think there's a few people from here from that general area. Any individual offence was not intended, but it used to have a bad reputation as a town.
 
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Sharing my next team iteration as it relates to my early doors plan.

I've turned Chapman into Coleman & Miller into Hopper/Callaghan.

Rationale is that Coleman has an outside chance at being a D6 keeper and that I think Hopper/Callaghan are a great stepping stone to Gulden after his first bye.

I consume a little content and was perplexed at a few creators pushing Matt Crouch as a viable M5 selection earlier in the year. He may be priced under what he scored at and may be injury free, but for a bloke who handballs an awful lot I don't trust him to make 100k. If he does you keep him as long as you can at M8 till you turn him into an uber premo with leftover change and happy days, you've nailed the pick. I think the chances of that happening are slim. I've also heard creators mention starting Tom Green (as the Giants play North & the Eagles the first few scoring rounds before their bye) and flipping him after his first price rise to another prem, presumably banking change.

Using that strategy, to me it makes sense picking a different player from GWS that has a better shot at making 100k with their nice early schedule before flipping them. Callaghan is reportedly flying this preseason, priced at 409k (73 ave), and made a shift into the midfield in the latter half of last season attending roughly 50% of CBA's. I guess the knock on him is that he needs the pure midfield time to make 100k.

Jacob Hopper. A bit of a forgotten midfielder who was always on the cusp of being a good SC pick although injury seemed to always curtail his potential. He's priced at 439k (78 ave), will get a bulk share of midfield time and has another preseason under his belt to gel with his new side.

I'm happy to take a gamble on either player (as I have the funds) looking at their early draws from the Opening Round to Round 5:

Callaghan: Pies, North, West Coast, Bye, Gold Coast & Saints.
Hopper: Gold Coast, Blues, Port, Swans, Saints & West Coast.

Tigers have the tougher draw, although I know that Hopper has the security of playing on ball. Both of these players could average nearly 90 over the first 5 rounds and give a 100k profit a nudge each. The good thing is I get a look at both during the OR and can pick my poison from there.

The value of this decision (I feel) is that:
- I can gamble on Coleman being a keeper or very close to it before being upgraded as there are still slight question marks over Chapman's role and scoring capacity.
- Only needing the single rookie cull (fingers crossed) to get Gulden in based on the rookie making 100k over the first 5 rounds. I have 45k leftover in the bank as is. The premise of this is that either Callaghan or Hopper get to around 500k (90 average) in that time.

Other than that strategy, I feel my team is well bye balanced and has rookie wriggle room to make adjustments with their prices generally being at the upper end of the spectrum.
 
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I don't think I can not start Daicos even with that Round 5 Bye , don't mind LDU though , hopefully he stays on the park

If 2 rookies have mooeed enough by Round 6 still might be short of cash to upgrade one of Billings , Chapman , Lynch or Williams (may not have increased enough themselves in any case) to Daicos , not sure , so may as well just start him.

Even though we have 40 trades , 2 down and 1 up just to "dodge" a Bye score (just will need a good 19th & 20th player to cover him and Grundy) that early seems a bit wasteful , will need to do some calculations later on down the track.

Or just start a different premium without a early Bye then plan to get Daicos in ASAP 🤗

Pretty confident that bench won't be my starting bench (the rookies always show 😀 , hopefully Round zero gives us a free look at some rookies) so should be right trying to find the $4k.

Lots of interesting cheapies D & F when scrolling through the prices.

I do need to start doing a lot more research on players though.
This can be the issue. When you see someone say I will upgrade to premo player X after their bye rd 5 or 6 where will you get the cash? Most rooks take 6 or 7 rounds to peak. The rookies that have made 150k plus after 4 rds are the ones you often want to keep for longer. Maybe they make another 75 or 100k if you hold onto them.
 
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Early days:

D: N.Daicos, Sheezel, Young, Williams, Curtin, O’Sullivan (Gibcus, Coffield)

M: Dawson, Butters, Gulden, Walsh, Miller, N.Martin, McKercher, Watson (Sharp, Clark, Mannagh)

R: Grundy, Sweet (Livingstone)

F: Jackson, Greene, Flanders, Reid, Walter, Duursma (Wilson, Cadman)

Note: have f/r link if Sweet doesn’t play. So can move Jackson there.
Big Red light at R2.
 
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I think 'the red light' refers to starting 2 doughnuts, as there will be plenty of non players already in rounds 2-6 due th the bye situation[/QUOTE

Just to clear my Views on the RK LIne.

I cannot see Sweet getting many games. I reckon he is the back up option if Ivan gets an Injury. Preseason watch.

Next with Darcy back in the team, Jackson scoring will surely be effected. The stats GURU Connoisseur has this info somewhere amongst these threads

Find the 36K for Gawn and you will sleep easier.

Good Luck
 
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This can be the issue. When you see someone say I will upgrade to premo player X after their bye rd 5 or 6 where will you get the cash? Most rooks take 6 or 7 rounds to peak. The rookies that have made 150k plus after 4 rds are the ones you often want to keep for longer. Maybe they make another 75 or 100k if you hold onto them.
It will be interesting what the optimal strategy ends up being, I'm not sure the points loss will be as extravagant as people are making out by carrying Round 0 premiums, not in best 18 rounds where you'll likely be fielding a mid pricer for the premium in the vast majority of situations and not having to find 600k+ to fork out in the first quarter of the season for any genuine premium that you pass on.

You would also have the upper hand to get on the next target at a favourable price whilst other coaches are scrambling to bring in a guy you already own, very interesting season ahead I feel.

For all the moaning of extra trades I think there will actually be multiple ways for people to play the game this year.
 
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It will be interesting what the optimal strategy ends up being, I'm not sure the points loss will be as extravagant as people are making out by carrying Round 0 premiums, not in best 18 rounds where you'll likely be fielding a mid pricer for the premium in the vast majority of situations and not having to find 600k+ to fork out in the first quarter of the season for any genuine premium that you pass on.

You would also have the upper hand to get on the next target at a favourable price whilst other coaches are scrambling to bring in a guy you already own, very interesting season ahead I feel.

For all the moaning of extra trades I think there will actually be multiple ways for people to play the game this year.
Yes lots of trades. I am actually considering Tom Green for RD1 RD2 then a sideways to a Neale, Dunkley, Walsh.
 
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This can be the issue. When you see someone say I will upgrade to premo player X after their bye rd 5 or 6 where will you get the cash? Most rooks take 6 or 7 rounds to peak. The rookies that have made 150k plus after 4 rds are the ones you often want to keep for longer. Maybe they make another 75 or 100k if you hold onto them.
I guess the other option would be to say start someone around that $ 400-450k mark eg Coleman , Himmelberg etc and then upgrade them to Daicos after his first Bye by downgrading 2 rookies (if we have 2 viable bubble rookies).

NWM bit higher priced.

Might even be a M or F similar priced that gets off to a flyer for the first 5 rounds although if they are going around 90+ would we want to trade them out that early ?

Guthrie maybe , Boak $ 366k with their AO fixture 🤔

Think I will just start Daicos and get the rookie score for him on the Bye.

Could all change depending on his Round zero score as well
 
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I don’t mind it. You have the same defensive premiums and ruck premiums as me. I have LDU instead of Daicos in the mids (which could help you find that $4k!). As for forwards, Duursma looks our only overlap! I have Flanders and Jackson instead of Macrae.
Forward line looks interesting (at this stage of the year)

Need a crystal ball to see what Billings , Harmes , Hewett , Jordon , Lynch , Robertson etc will end up scoring , could be viable starting picks at their price point.

Think from memory the last 2 seasons more players from that price point have made that magic $ 150k than rookies.

Looks like a large number priced below Reid could be viable as well.

Too many options 😅

No mention of Heeney yet either , surely he hasn't been completely forgotten.
 
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I thought I'd see Petracca in more teams, his average last season on that run without Oliver was juicy
I’m warming more and more to it. My problem is (which I’m sure won’t be a problem deeper into preseason), is that I don’t know which premo to swap out for him. Hopefully by the time I have to make decisions there will be plenty of bottom dollar rookies to select from to allow an upgrade of a mid pricer.
 
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$0 team with 12 keepers and 2 speculative breakout keepers
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Not sure I'd count Owens as a keeper.

The other concern for me would be only three spots in the midfield to fill without any of Bont, Oliver, Petracca, Laird, Neale. If the trajectory of Gulden, Green and Butters continue you might be right but we may even see Dawson, Rozee and Merrett be top tier.

Looks pretty solid though as long as the forward mid/rookies are there.
 
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