Opinion 2024 AFL SuperCoach Planning Thread
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I don't think three is necessarily too many - with extra trades, I'm liking the logic of picking more value/underpriced players and wheeling and dealing throughout the year / around byes.
Crouch averaged 108 in his Round 19-24 stint with 72% CBA's. 110 would be great but I don't think 105-108 hurts when he's priced at 88 (10% discount) and has a great bye round to sideways him.
Amon is similar in that he's underpriced based on his role, and has that last bye. I don't think I'd be particularly holding him past Round 15 either.
Guthrie is one I need to look into more. He had 58% CBA's last year for his 84 average. I assume he's got a 10% discount as he's priced at 75. Without having studied it too much, I'm not sure what Geelong's CBA's are expected to be, with Blics/Atkins/Danger ahead of him last year & Bruhn/Parfitt/Holmes in the mix too, Bruhn particularly may rise in CBA's?
For the four players you've used as an example, they all get a boost not having a bye until Round 14/15, so I think can easily work having three of them.
Crouch averaged 108 in his Round 19-24 stint with 72% CBA's. 110 would be great but I don't think 105-108 hurts when he's priced at 88 (10% discount) and has a great bye round to sideways him.
Amon is similar in that he's underpriced based on his role, and has that last bye. I don't think I'd be particularly holding him past Round 15 either.
Guthrie is one I need to look into more. He had 58% CBA's last year for his 84 average. I assume he's got a 10% discount as he's priced at 75. Without having studied it too much, I'm not sure what Geelong's CBA's are expected to be, with Blics/Atkins/Danger ahead of him last year & Bruhn/Parfitt/Holmes in the mix too, Bruhn particularly may rise in CBA's?
For the four players you've used as an example, they all get a boost not having a bye until Round 14/15, so I think can easily work having three of them.
Geez 40 trades is a lot though! 
Crouch averaging 110 may be enough (but probably not) - it would certainly be enough before byes. If Amon went 100, that would be close to enough too. Both are easy-ish bail-outs at the Round 15 bye if that was the strategy. Guthrie no chance of a keeper.
I have no real issue paying 400K+ for Round 14/15 bye players that don't have the early bye, if they are underpriced enough.
Crouch averaging 110 may be enough (but probably not) - it would certainly be enough before byes. If Amon went 100, that would be close to enough too. Both are easy-ish bail-outs at the Round 15 bye if that was the strategy. Guthrie no chance of a keeper.
I have no real issue paying 400K+ for Round 14/15 bye players that don't have the early bye, if they are underpriced enough.
Geez 40 trades is a lot though!
Crouch averaging 110 may be enough (but probably not) - it would certainly be enough before byes. If Amon went 100, that would be close to enough too. Both are easy-ish bail-outs at the Round 15 bye if that was the strategy. Guthrie no chance of a keeper.
I have no real issue paying 400K+ for Round 14/15 bye players that don't have the early bye, if they are underpriced enough.
Crouch averaging 110 may be enough (but probably not) - it would certainly be enough before byes. If Amon went 100, that would be close to enough too. Both are easy-ish bail-outs at the Round 15 bye if that was the strategy. Guthrie no chance of a keeper.
I have no real issue paying 400K+ for Round 14/15 bye players that don't have the early bye, if they are underpriced enough.
The other thing is there seems to be far more quality rookies that seem real chances at debuting at the start of the season this year compared to last year when there weren’t many at all, forcing us to to look at budget premiums/ mid pricers.
Preseason games are going to be very interesting viewing, especially with the rookies.
Certainly seems there are going to be many different strategies used this season which is great - unkown territory with this many trades, many different ways one could approach it.
Geez 40 trades is a lot though!
Crouch averaging 110 may be enough (but probably not) - it would certainly be enough before byes. If Amon went 100, that would be close to enough too. Both are easy-ish bail-outs at the Round 15 bye if that was the strategy. Guthrie no chance of a keeper.
I have no real issue paying 400K+ for Round 14/15 bye players that don't have the early bye, if they are underpriced enough.
Crouch averaging 110 may be enough (but probably not) - it would certainly be enough before byes. If Amon went 100, that would be close to enough too. Both are easy-ish bail-outs at the Round 15 bye if that was the strategy. Guthrie no chance of a keeper.
I have no real issue paying 400K+ for Round 14/15 bye players that don't have the early bye, if they are underpriced enough.
This is one thing I’m weighing up at the moment - the rookies look decent.
I am inclined to push somewhat towards a more mid priced team given the rule changes, but haven’t found a long list of guys I think can beat what they’re priced at by 30+ as things stand. A number of those who can are rookies or rookie priced, rather than in the 200-350k type range that I would be interested in selecting from.
I am inclined to push somewhat towards a more mid priced team given the rule changes, but haven’t found a long list of guys I think can beat what they’re priced at by 30+ as things stand. A number of those who can are rookies or rookie priced, rather than in the 200-350k type range that I would be interested in selecting from.
I actually agree both are way better wingmen so don't love the role changes.
At least with Amon, we've seen him in that role in the back-half of the season (averaging 99SC from 3 games in the ones he was clearly in defence)
I think 105 is a huge win as a pick, essentially being D6. I don't really see that happening but a minor chance.
100 would still be a win in my books, with the right bye strategy, providing a D/M link at Round 6 and then trading him at Round 15 bye.
It's a pretty specific scenario, relying on him staying in that role and averaging 100+. The issue/risk is he averages 95 or less, only being slight value compared to a rookie, and having to hold him until the bye while others are upgraded.
I've got Crouch locked in personally, but someone like Amon would really come down to the rest of my team, if I had the money for him / needed more premiums not in the early bye rounds etc.
At least with Amon, we've seen him in that role in the back-half of the season (averaging 99SC from 3 games in the ones he was clearly in defence)
I think 105 is a huge win as a pick, essentially being D6. I don't really see that happening but a minor chance.
100 would still be a win in my books, with the right bye strategy, providing a D/M link at Round 6 and then trading him at Round 15 bye.
It's a pretty specific scenario, relying on him staying in that role and averaging 100+. The issue/risk is he averages 95 or less, only being slight value compared to a rookie, and having to hold him until the bye while others are upgraded.
I've got Crouch locked in personally, but someone like Amon would really come down to the rest of my team, if I had the money for him / needed more premiums not in the early bye rounds etc.
Agree with this 100%
ATM im running with 12 premo, none which are in the fwd line since i see no value there at all. flanders is probably the one who jumps out at me but i will get him post bye.
I will go in with 4 early bye players.
gawn and grundy i will trade them out on there byes to marshall and English hopefully english has gone down 80k by then and grundy has gone up 80-100k.
FOMO with daicos and im going green with his 2 easy games and then trade him out for walsh/miller.
12 premo, 3 mid price and rookies im running with.
ATM im running with 12 premo, none which are in the fwd line since i see no value there at all. flanders is probably the one who jumps out at me but i will get him post bye.
I will go in with 4 early bye players.
gawn and grundy i will trade them out on there byes to marshall and English hopefully english has gone down 80k by then and grundy has gone up 80-100k.
FOMO with daicos and im going green with his 2 easy games and then trade him out for walsh/miller.
12 premo, 3 mid price and rookies im running with.
Was looking at a Martin , Crouch , Amon , Guthrie + the Fab 4 in the mids the other day
Allows :-
Sicily , Stewart , Houston , Young
English , Marshall
2 x $ 520 premium forwards
So 8 premiums including Young
2 rookies onfield in defence
4 rookies onfield in mids
2 rookies onfield in forwards
Let's say 16 rookie downgrades to upgrade those 8 = 24 trades
Would need another 4 downgrades to upgrade Martin , Crouch , Amon , Guthrie probably so that's another 8 trades in total.
IF Amon & Meeting got DPP maybe they are good enough for Top 10 defenders
Using Lynch & Fyfe price type , 2 more downs to upgrade them = 4 more
That's most likely 36 trades
Couple of correction trades along the way , some for injuries
Reading people plan on trading premiums in and out based on fixtures ala NBA RDT style.
40 might not be enough.
All conjecture and speculation at the moment until the Round 1 rookies finalise themselves
Allows :-
Sicily , Stewart , Houston , Young
English , Marshall
2 x $ 520 premium forwards
So 8 premiums including Young
2 rookies onfield in defence
4 rookies onfield in mids
2 rookies onfield in forwards
Let's say 16 rookie downgrades to upgrade those 8 = 24 trades
Would need another 4 downgrades to upgrade Martin , Crouch , Amon , Guthrie probably so that's another 8 trades in total.
IF Amon & Meeting got DPP maybe they are good enough for Top 10 defenders
Using Lynch & Fyfe price type , 2 more downs to upgrade them = 4 more
That's most likely 36 trades
Couple of correction trades along the way , some for injuries
Reading people plan on trading premiums in and out based on fixtures ala NBA RDT style.
40 might not be enough.
All conjecture and speculation at the moment until the Round 1 rookies finalise themselves
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2023
Rd 1 (15) Rd 2 (3) Total 18
2022
Rd 1 (15) Rd 2 (6) Total 21
2021
Rd 1 (22) Rd 2 (4) Total 26
I think what makes a difference this year is the number of players priced in the rookie range (although many at the higher end) that have played AFL previously and have some prospects of more games. Guys like Hore, Coffield, Gibcus, Sharp, Bedendo, Sonsie, Fullarton, Laurie, Fin Macrae and Sexton. Then you have the mature age guys on top of that.
2023
Rd 1 (15) Rd 2 (3) Total 18
2022
Rd 1 (15) Rd 2 (6) Total 21
2021
Rd 1 (22) Rd 2 (4) Total 26
I think what makes a difference this year is the number of players priced in the rookie range (although many at the higher end) that have played AFL previously and have some prospects of more games. Guys like Hore, Coffield, Gibcus, Sharp, Bedendo, Sonsie, Fullarton, Laurie, Fin Macrae and Sexton. Then you have the mature age guys on top of that.