Discussion 2024: Rate My Team
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Prefer to not overspend on a key forward given the high variance and high likelihood that he will not present value nor a positive return on investment and can likely be picked up around the mid 400,000 range at a later date. With the bye in RD2 you would need to be extremely confident that he can go at say 110+ in RD1 and 100 odd in the other early rounds as a low score before the bye could scratch the trade itch and thus defeats the purpose of starting him, if he will be traded after a low score to reinvest cash on other lines. The opportunity cost of that $545,300 will need to be considered as I gather there would be more players you feel more confident about on other lines around the same price range and have a far greater best case scenario in terms of average over 2024. Depends on your risk appetite but feel it is best to either limit your spend on key forwards to the sub $400,000 range or even sub $300,000.
Adams is a tough one to get excited about given his historically subpar disposal and kicking efficiency thus is more reliant on accumulating a large amount of the ball and tackling to compensate for those poor days by foot, etc. Tough to see much upside at his price and would not consider using a midfield position for him, whilst using the early rounds to get a gauge on the forwards and his performance since you could jump on after his bye.
Bolton in a similar bracket to Curnow given the price, lack of high averages historically and the opportunity cost of players on other lines around the same price range could have far more upside and less downside. Feel it is best to decrease spend in this area of the ground rather than using $2.1 million on four forwards (Jackson, Bolton, Curnow and Adams) for perceived security. Worst case scenario all could be traded by season end and with early byes to navigate, sub rule in place for rookies possibly limiting cash gen, etc it could snowball into a much larger issue very early on.
Adams is a tough one to get excited about given his historically subpar disposal and kicking efficiency thus is more reliant on accumulating a large amount of the ball and tackling to compensate for those poor days by foot, etc. Tough to see much upside at his price and would not consider using a midfield position for him, whilst using the early rounds to get a gauge on the forwards and his performance since you could jump on after his bye.
Bolton in a similar bracket to Curnow given the price, lack of high averages historically and the opportunity cost of players on other lines around the same price range could have far more upside and less downside. Feel it is best to decrease spend in this area of the ground rather than using $2.1 million on four forwards (Jackson, Bolton, Curnow and Adams) for perceived security. Worst case scenario all could be traded by season end and with early byes to navigate, sub rule in place for rookies possibly limiting cash gen, etc it could snowball into a much larger issue very early on.
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So I had a try at a seemingly outlandish concept of picking only players who I think will go up in value, and not considering the early byes (value increase is the same either way). LDU and Butters were the only concession in order to have a couple solid captain options, and to actually spend the cash somewhere. Wound up with this monstrosity, with still 65k left over. Thoughts?
Wardlaw had hamstring issues that happened in Rd 18 and again kept him out Rds 23 and 24.
Although in his early junior days he did not seem to get injuries in his later junior years he got hamstring problems. As per central.rookieme.com notes below. Nothing known this pre season though and if NM have addressed the issue he will be in the thick of it.
Although in his early junior days he did not seem to get injuries in his later junior years he got hamstring problems. As per central.rookieme.com notes below. Nothing known this pre season though and if NM have addressed the issue he will be in the thick of it.
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No problem. 
Ryan always seems to be injured in each preseason. I avoided him and English after their injuries last preseason and that didn't turn out great.
I do agree that he isn't as good as a few others and priced only $6k off his peak price of 2023.
Ryan always seems to be injured in each preseason. I avoided him and English after their injuries last preseason and that didn't turn out great.
I do agree that he isn't as good as a few others and priced only $6k off his peak price of 2023.
This is quite an interesting exercise.
I am less wary about the early byes than most, and think a value focus is more viable this year with more trades, so this is potentially quite relevant and workable.
I have a slightly different view on value upside (which is natural) and probably wouldn’t be as confident on Sheezel. The two C options aren’t ones I’m quite so positive on either, I wonder what this would look like if you subbed Butters and LDU out for a rookie plus your tip to be the top scorer in the first six weeks or so, looped them with a combo of Gawn et al, and then spread the cash to more mid priced names (eg Billings sort of pricing and perhaps above).
This side only has c. 8 first order upgrades to do, which should be pretty easy. Then you could go around again upgrading the fringe premiums/those who’ve had a good run bit may be regressing due to role or fitness, to strengthen the true “completed” team. It could work with all the extra trades and boosts.
Two challenges I am finding in tilting towards this type of approach are (1) rookies are structurally underpriced, potentially by a large margin if they play - meaning the best cash cows will often be rookies, and this year’s crop looks pretty good, and (2) I can’t see as much value in the $200-400k range as I seem to recall from prior years.
SC may be giving us the tools to make a more midpriced madness side workable for once … but finding the players to actually implement it could prove difficult this year!
Nice work on this. I’d be interested the other value names you considered.
I am less wary about the early byes than most, and think a value focus is more viable this year with more trades, so this is potentially quite relevant and workable.
I have a slightly different view on value upside (which is natural) and probably wouldn’t be as confident on Sheezel. The two C options aren’t ones I’m quite so positive on either, I wonder what this would look like if you subbed Butters and LDU out for a rookie plus your tip to be the top scorer in the first six weeks or so, looped them with a combo of Gawn et al, and then spread the cash to more mid priced names (eg Billings sort of pricing and perhaps above).
This side only has c. 8 first order upgrades to do, which should be pretty easy. Then you could go around again upgrading the fringe premiums/those who’ve had a good run bit may be regressing due to role or fitness, to strengthen the true “completed” team. It could work with all the extra trades and boosts.
Two challenges I am finding in tilting towards this type of approach are (1) rookies are structurally underpriced, potentially by a large margin if they play - meaning the best cash cows will often be rookies, and this year’s crop looks pretty good, and (2) I can’t see as much value in the $200-400k range as I seem to recall from prior years.
SC may be giving us the tools to make a more midpriced madness side workable for once … but finding the players to actually implement it could prove difficult this year!
Nice work on this. I’d be interested the other value names you considered.
Early stages but I’m feeling confident about the abundance of rookies that are genuine chances of playing round one.
12 Premiums & 3 Mid-Pricers in Williams, Jordan & Billings! Pretty happy with how things are looking, if I don’t say so myself
12 Premiums & 3 Mid-Pricers in Williams, Jordan & Billings! Pretty happy with how things are looking, if I don’t say so myself
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Honestly I didn't really, it was a first draft. I've since downgraded butters to nic Martin for cash for Jordon and Billings.
Also considered Amon.
There is a lot of potentially good rookies, but every year we end up with a charlie constable or alwyn Davey just sitting in a bench spot and nigh untradeable. A team like this should reduce the number of dead rookie spots as it doesn't require as many and you can target only the rookies who are more of a 'sure thing' and less speculative.
The thinking with the fringe premos is that they hopefully move up to 550 ish and then I can slant sideways them for a top tier premo who has dipped towards 600 whenever that happens.
Also considered Amon.
There is a lot of potentially good rookies, but every year we end up with a charlie constable or alwyn Davey just sitting in a bench spot and nigh untradeable. A team like this should reduce the number of dead rookie spots as it doesn't require as many and you can target only the rookies who are more of a 'sure thing' and less speculative.
The thinking with the fringe premos is that they hopefully move up to 550 ish and then I can slant sideways them for a top tier premo who has dipped towards 600 whenever that happens.
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