Strategy 2024: Round 4 Trades

[Zimmer]

Yeah, but has the expensive starting price.

You have to weigh it up against JS, scoring potential though. If he makes more $ long term and Darcy ends up out of the team somehow it's worth the extra outlay for Brown. Cash is king in the short and long term - I just haven't had time to weigh up these rookies this year, so I'm sort of relying on you guys a fair bit. Anyway thanks for all your feedback guys and girls.

 

[Spifflicator]

Possibility of getting Dempsey, Darcy and Brown/Draper with a Boost. (Reid Z still on bench.)

I probably need to look at the rookies coming up in the next couple of weeks...

The problem you face by getting Dempsey after his price rise, is that your basically putting yourself $71.4k behind everyone who has him (only 14% of coaches surprisingly). At least with Darcy you are on an equal footing

 

[NT.Thunder]

The problem you face by getting Dempsey after his price rise, is that your basically putting yourself $71.4k behind everyone who has him (only 14% of coaches surprisingly). At least with Darcy you are on an equal footing

So is that 86% in front of those that don’t?

 

[Connoisseur]

The problem you face by getting Dempsey after his price rise, is that your basically putting yourself $71.4k behind everyone who has him (only 14% of coaches surprisingly). At least with Darcy you are on an equal footing

But hypothetically if Jordon is traded and approx $125k is pocketed, is it really that different to a typical downgrade?

If there is a higher amount of confidence in job security and scoring compared to cheaper alternatives, does missing the initial price rise matter? Possibility that an alternative selected does not earn sufficient cash (omitted/poor job security) or causes a more volatile player to be fielded.

 

[Darkie]

If anyone is boosting primarily to avoid a low on field score, that’s almost certainly not worth the trade, let alone the boost as well.

Those sorts of considerations need to be the icing rather than the cake.

 

[Feerits Elf]

If there is a higher amount of confidence in job security and scoring compared to cheaper alternatives, does missing the initial price rise matter?

It only puts you at a nominal disadvantage to the 1 in 7 coaches who took him before his price rise. You have to back yourself to eliminate that $70k disadvantage to those 24,000 coaches over the remaining 20 rounds.

 

[misterspock]

So is there consensus on the best option for bubble defenders this week?

Draper ($123k) vs Brown ($154k)

I haven't watched many Freo or Tigers games, but based on stats is Brown the better option to generate cash, even at the higher starting price? Draper is the prototypical KPD, playing deep and not seeing as much of the ball, especially with Ryan and Clark dominating down back.

On the other hand, Brown playing higher up the ground based on his score involvements, i50 stats etc. so more likely to get touches? Vlastuin obviously also taking away touches, but is JS and prospects for Brown better than Draper?

Can take the $20k saving and get Draper, but long term looking like Draper might top out sub-$200k and Brown more likely to break $300k if he can consitently score in the 60s.

Overthinking it as usual...

 

[gutsroy]

Ended up retaining Billings temporarily given news of Lazzaro, Sexton outs.
Who of Lazzaro, Sexton is more likely to return any time soon?
Seems a very difficult one to guess at, but likely need to cull one this week for Darcy now.

 

[Montyjnr]

Ended up retaining Billings temporarily given news of Lazzaro, Sexton outs.
Who of Lazzaro, Sexton is more likely to return any time soon?
Seems a very difficult one to guess at, but likely need to cull one this week for Darcy now.

I can't see Shiels staying in the North team too long.

Surely Lazzaro gets back in sooner rather than later.

 

[cbrendan]

So is there consensus on the best option for bubble defenders this week?

Draper ($123k) vs Brown ($154k)

I haven't watched many Freo or Tigers games, but based on stats is Brown the better option to generate cash, even at the higher starting price? Draper is the prototypical KPD, playing deep and not seeing as much of the ball, especially with Ryan and Clark dominating down back.

On the other hand, Brown playing higher up the ground based on his score involvements, i50 stats etc. so more likely to get touches? Vlastuin obviously also taking away touches, but is JS and prospects for Brown better than Draper?

Can take the $20k saving and get Draper, but long term looking like Draper might top out sub-$200k and Brown more likely to break $300k if he can consitently score in the 60s.

Overthinking it as usual...

I'm trying to decide as well, and one extra consideration is the timeframe in which I'll want to move them on. With the DPP changes coming in a few weeks, I'll likely want to move on quite a few of my def spuds, and shift a combination of Mckercher/ Roberts/ Fisher/ Khamis into the def line.

With Richmond having the round 6 bye, Brown may score more week to week, but he'll have one less price rise compared to Draper across any given period of time.

That being said I'm still leaning towards Brown... lots to consider.

 

[gutsroy]

The problem you face by getting Dempsey after his price rise, is that your basically putting yourself $71.4k behind everyone who has him (only 14% of coaches surprisingly). At least with Darcy you are on an equal footing

It is not ideal, also for those looking at T Powell for the same reason, but don't you just have to ignore that and base the decision on prospects vs the current alternatives with their price points and expected output?
It can be a worse deal than last week but still be the best available deal this week, can't it?

 

[Zimmer]

If anyone is boosting primarily to avoid a low on field score, that’s almost certainly not worth the trade, let alone the boost as well.

Those sorts of considerations need to be the icing rather than the cake.

Are you referring to our match up in PL?
Reckon you might have me covered...

 

[JMAC]

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It is not ideal, also for those looking at T Powell for the same reason, but don't you just have to ignore that and base the decision on prospects vs the current alternatives with their price points and expected output?
It can be a worse deal than last week but still be the best available deal this week, can't it?

Great post. I am considering Powell this week. Yes, he's 60k more expensive but also has another good score to make him more of a sound point scorer/consistent role. If we used trades positively last week, does it matter that we didn't get on at ground floor? Genuine question! Maybe there's some theory in there I can learn about.

We all jumped on Fisher pre season at his price when we thought he could average 95+. Powell right around that price.

 

[JY5165]

is there a chance dempsey is a pseudo keeper in the fwd line if he continues to avg 80-90 considering how few fwd options there are(might be more after dpp changes)

 

[Montyjnr]

is there a chance dempsey is a pseudo keeper in the fwd line if he continues to avg 80-90 considering how few fwd options there are(might be more after dpp changes)

I doubt it - keepers don’t play the Dempsey role.

He’s still the sort of player that could reasonably drop a 45 against tougher opposition.

 

[Connoisseur]

Scratch the Howes loop option which means no Flanders to replace Lyons/Sexton. Sexton will be used to loop Darcy and Cadman this round. Boost above can be used for Coffield to Draper though not overly confident on his scoring or the alternative is to go a week late on a Sharp/Thomas type to replace Lyons.

Another option is that Clark could be selected over Stewart which would allow Powell to replace Lyons.
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Defaulted back to the Stewart and two rookie (Brown and Darcy) option.

 

[Zimmer]

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[Darkie]

Are you referring to our match up in PL?
Reckon you might have me covered...

Ha! I hadn’t factored that in, but it sounds like it strengthens the argument for holding further 😋 Good luck!

 

[aj74]

1st trade: Sexton to Darcy done.
2nd trade, either:
Fyfe to Powell, or
Fyfe to Touk.

Fyfe to Powell leaves me with around 200k in the kitty, however I'm still not completely sold on Powell being a top 8 fwd.

Stuck big time on this one, so would appreciate anyone who has strong thoughts either way.

Not sure that Powell is a top 6 forward either. I do, however, think he will be over 460k at some stage and was therefore a good trade at 311k.

He's 372k now yeah? Do you think he will make it to 520k? I think that unless he gets roled out back to the forward line or injured, then yes.

 

[NT.Thunder]

If anyone is boosting primarily to avoid a low on field score, that’s almost certainly not worth the trade, let alone the boost as well.

Those sorts of considerations need to be the icing rather than the cake.

I don’t think it’s as simple as that. Everyone’s teams are different and what works for some won’t work for others. If people are boosting to bring in a premium defender I’ve got no issues with that. A Ryan over Howes might just be worth more than a Steele over Jordan etc.

I think we should be careful generalising trades and boosts across the board