Strategy 2024: Round 6 Trades

[Leroy]

Was on the radar pre-season and a few went with him.
Up until his spike game on the w/e, he's been a mid-pricer scoring in the 80's, not the sort of stuff to get people excited.
If he backs it up with a couple of good weeks I'll certainly be interested.

Definitely on mine, want to see at least another week of high CBA's

Any input on Rankine vs Zorko as a FWD upgrade this week?

The other one would be Bolton but even I'm bright enough not to trade in somebody on the bye

Wondering if McKenna back in a week will dent Zorko's output somewhat. He's been pretty solid to this point but Rankine has a lot of AO coming up and a helpful bye to bail out of if things go wrong

 

[7/11]

Liking these trades early:

Carroll, Sanders and McKercher > Graham, Nyuon and Dunkley.

2nd upgrade for the season, and feel like Dunkley has bottomed out.

Updated to Carroll, McKercher and D’Ambrosio > Graham, Nyuon and Heeney.

Defence feels pretty shored up for me with Houston, Stewart, NWM and Ryan occupying spots, with Williams, Clohesy and Graham the last two on field spots, so I’m happy to let D’Ambrosio go to fund Heeney.

Could move Daicos back to defence, but mids/forwards is where I’m weaker currently so I’m happy for him to sit in the mids until I begin upgrading there.

Unless Sharp gets another spike score I’ll probably be moving him along next round, probably along with Cadman and Wilson.

Fingers crossed enough rookies on the bubble for rd7 put their hand up this week!

 

[Feerits Elf]

If you're taking into account exit strategies in case of a bust as a factor to help you choose an upgrade target, that suggests they might not be quite the upgrade target you hoped they were.

 

[Eagling]

Finally trade Dawson? Worth it or just hold now?

I'm hoping he sneaks F/M DPP at this point. Of course if he does then he'll suddenly come into contention as an upgrade target for $200k cheaper than his starting price so I still lose.

 

[BlufBlufShuv]

Finally trade Dawson? Worth it or just hold now?

His mid role has been cut, I think you probably have to move him on, maybe for a forward/defensive premo. Soligo etc cutting into his CBAs and the Crows won away doing that.

 

[PC]

Any input on Rankine vs Zorko as a FWD upgrade this week?

The other one would be Bolton but even I'm bright enough not to trade in somebody on the bye

Wondering if McKenna back in a week will dent Zorko's output somewhat. He's been pretty solid to this point but Rankine has a lot of AO coming up and a helpful bye to bail out of if things go wrong

Good question, wondering the same.

Zorko has injury risks while Rankine is unproven but cheaper. Mouch being out this week could provide a brief sugar hit for Rankine as well?

 

[FlatTrackBully]

Yes, already have Touk. Still a little concerned with Walsh injury history with his back issues which could flare up at any time.? But he is one of the best and nicely priced.

LDU, honestly the man doesnt look interested in finding the ball, waitng on the outside of the contest to much waiting for a handball recieve and isnt workng hard enough off the ball. I persisted 2 weeks with LDU and he has to go.

Is LDU to Touk/Dunks considered an upgrade?

I’ve had a good think about it and now I’m not so sure trading LDU is the play if you want to try and rank near the top.

If you want to make up ground on the rest of the comp it’s with guys like LDU. Trading him to a Green/Serong/Steele or any popular player isn’t making up any points, flushes 100k down the drain as well as another trade or possibly boost.

I’d rather get rookies off field rather than upgrade LDU to an Uber premium as the difference should be less without the rookie score.

 

[Feerits Elf]

Dawson and LDU are depressing me and I don't even have them in my team

 

[FlatTrackBully]

Finally trade Dawson? Worth it or just hold now?

With Crouch out you can probably hold another week, if you’ve held on this long it can’t hurt another week.

 

[Montyjnr]

Finally trade Dawson? Worth it or just hold now?

Just hold - if you trade Dawson now, it interrupts your upgrade momentum.

Would you rather have Dawson & a new additional premium replacing a rookie on field this week? Or a premium replacing Dawson & keeping a rookie on field this week?

 

[bluesbrothers]

Not sure what to do this week. I have Libba who has been all over the place this season and now misses a week. Laird, who had been scoring well, but is way down on min per game compared to last year. Crows have been crap so Nicks puts him forward (as if he was the one causing the problem....). Unfortunately they won (although in reality I think Carlton lost), so the coach prob thinks he's solved all the issues. Really don't want to trade premiums as it halts upgrades, but they are both a worry. I traded in Steele last week, so now have 4 rd15 mids, but was hoping to get to their bye before deciding who to trade. Need to get Heeney in, so most likely one probably goes for him this week. Now to work out who.

 

[froffershanners]

LDU an interesting prospect for both owners and non-owners. Was keen on him as a starting pick but he was squeezed out and now feel as though I’m keen on trading him in. A lot of his basic statistics are very similar to last year. Will list current year first for a comparison and then have 2023 and 2022 listed after that.

Disposals - 27.6 v 27.4 v 24.9
Marks - 3.2 v 3.7 v v 4.3
Tackles - 3.8 v 4.5 v 4.4
AF - 93 v 97 v 93

So not much of a change there but as dive deeper we see the real reason for the drop off.

Disposal efficiency - 68.1% v 76.2% v 76.1%
Kicking efficiency - 59.2% v 69.7% v 66.7%
Contested possession rate - 41.3% v 46.5% v 44.2%
Clangers - 4.4 v 3.4 v 3.5
Supercoach - 94 v 114 v 101

So a drop off in efficiency, a slightly lower contested possession rate and an extra clanger a game is hurting his SC score.

LDU is doing plenty right but just not enough at the moment. Will he revert to the mean or is the 2023 LDU the outlier? A lot of people on here have said he hasn’t passed the eye test which you can’t quantify but is hard to deny.

 

[Amazing Bombers]

Might be a bit early to get rid of Mass but thinking a boost for
Mass, Mckercher and Carroll to Touk, Garcia(if not sub) and Graham, defence would be Ryan Sheezel Stewart Daicos Williams Clohsey.

My bank would also allow me to go 2 of Cadman/Dempsey/Berry/Sharp to Nyuon/Drury/Mcauliffe and Tom Green who is one of the ones that I would say is a priority for me to get. Hoping that Sanders restarts his cash gen without Libba there this week.

 

[OnTopBar]

Any input on Rankine vs Zorko as a FWD upgrade this week?

The other one would be Bolton but even I'm bright enough not to trade in somebody on the bye

Wondering if McKenna back in a week will dent Zorko's output somewhat. He's been pretty solid to this point but Rankine has a lot of AO coming up and a helpful bye to bail out of if things go wrong

I think that it wouldn't hurt to wait a week or two on all of them, forgot that Crouch is out this week so I'd like to see Rankines role confirmed when (if) he's back. Same with Zorko, see that he still has the role with McKenna back. I'm not sold on Bolton, his scoring is reliant on goals and with Lynch and Balta out he's one of the few options the Tigers have to put up a score.

 

[Bombers2win]

Using my penultimate boost this week-so much for saving them for the second wave of byes!
Dempsey>Nyugon
Brown>Graham
Howes>Young
Yes Young! Time to eat humble pie and accept I was wrong, since getting rid of him he’s gone 120 over 3 and doesn’t appear to be slowing down, other choices are Yeo, Sicily Houston and McGovern, out of those Houston would be the one but his run of AO games is halfway and in hindsight really should of been a starter, same can go for Yeo and McGovern and although I never entertained McGovern he’s in the same boat as Yeo for starting and injury prone wise-watch Young get a season ending injury now! Probably too early to finish my defence but I now have Ryan, Stewart, Sheezel, Daicos, Young and Martin in the mids with -174 holding down D6.

 

[HimothyTaranto]

For any LDU and Dawson owners, you should only be moving them on if you no longer believe they can finish the season as top 10-15 midfielders.

They have both hemorrhaged so much money that hopping off them makes it tough to complete a sideways trade, with so many rookies still making money.

You are better off just holding at this point unless you believe they will finish considerably worse than their previous years.

 

[starburst2]

Finally trade Dawson? Worth it or just hold now?

if I had him I would trade ... but as some people have said it sets you back in upgrade season, so I guess you weigh that up

the reason he'd be gone for me is that he's somehow lost his best skill. Last year I thought Dawson was the best kick out of all midfielders next to Merrett. This year Dawson does hack kicks without looking and misses targets even when he tries. It's kind of baffling, 1-2 games is a mistake but I don't know where his kicking boots went. Usually players don't just drop off at their best skill like this

Basically you can consider a good portion of Dawson's elite SC game last year was effective kicks. If you think his kicking drop-off is a pattern, then the only way he can score well is if he improves at every other facet of the game to compensate for his bad kicking. If you think he will get back to elite kicking, then you should probably hold

That said, if Dawson's kicking gets back on track I will strongly consider trading him in

 

[BlufBlufShuv]

For any LDU and Dawson owners, you should only be moving them on if you no longer believe they can finish the season as top 10-15 midfielders.

They have both hemorrhaged so much money that hopping off them makes it tough to complete a sideways trade, with so many rookies still making money.

You are better off just holding at this point unless you believe they will finish considerably worse than their previous years.

Issue with Dawson is the role. Too much time forward. LDU has the same role he had at the start of the season. Dawson could well be overpriced if the 60/50% CBA splits he had last two weeks continues vs the 80% plus he had the first three weeks. Could be a chance he gets DPP the next time that comes around I guess.

Edit: I mean not next week's DPP, the one after that.

 

[FlatTrackBully]

LDU an interesting prospect for both owners and non-owners. Was keen on him as a starting pick but he was squeezed out and now feel as though I’m keen on trading him in. A lot of his basic statistics are very similar to last year. Will list current year first for a comparison and then have 2023 and 2022 listed after that.

Disposals - 27.6 v 27.4 v 24.9
Marks - 3.2 v 3.7 v v 4.3
Tackles - 3.8 v 4.5 v 4.4
AF - 93 v 97 v 93

So not much of a change there but as dive deeper we see the real reason for the drop off.

Disposal efficiency - 68.1% v 76.2% v 76.1%
Kicking efficiency - 59.2% v 69.7% v 66.7%
Contested possession rate - 41.3% v 46.5% v 44.2%
Clangers - 4.4 v 3.4 v 3.5
Supercoach - 94 v 114 v 101

So a drop off in efficiency, a slightly lower contested possession rate and an extra clanger a game is hurting his SC score.

LDU is doing plenty right but just not enough at the moment. Will he revert to the mean or is the 2023 LDU the outlier? A lot of people on here have said he hasn’t passed the eye test which you can’t quantify but is hard to deny.

Yeah the Carlton game he got a lot of attention so I'll rule that one out but the last 2 games have been pretty poor in terms of disposal use.

Had 9 clangers on the weekend, currently ranked 6th in turnovers per game (turnovers don't always translate to good or bad scoring but are a good indicator into how bad his disposal has been) as well as being 5th in total turnovers.

Can maybe treat it like Hayden Young where he had a ridiculously high amount of clangers which does seem pretty hard to sustain.

 

[bluesbrothers]

A lot weighing up the LDU proposition. I don't have him, but have Powell so have watched reasonably closely in the last few weeks. I don't have stats, but just a couple of observations that I think are having an effect on him. No Goldstein. Xerri may become a good ruckman, but right now, his tap work is terrible and he tries to grab it out of the ruck every chance he gets. Those clean takeaways that he was getting more often from Goldy last year aren't there, and he is having to kick under pressure more often. Norths forward line is a shambles. So many kicks go to where the forwards should be, but aren't. The kicker gets the clanger (don't get me started on that), but in reality it is the forwards that are causing the issue. Norths backs kicking is just so poor, and once again creates a lot more pressure up the field where the ball lands for mids like LDU.
I have no doubt he will have some really good games this year, but not sure how high his ceiling can be in such a poor team. I think a 100-105 is prob around where he ends up. Makes it a hard decision obviously.