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Which team wins a final first?

  • Essendon

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No assumption

It'd be a great strategy to combat that situation imho

As far as I can tell, it's a free kick in the centre and that's the only penalty
I'm fairly sure the umpires have discretion to pay a 50m penalty if they deem the 6v6v6 violation to be deliberate, or if the team fails to correct it. The requirement isn't released once a free kick is paid, so if the team floods 14 players back and stay there, it would likely end up with the ruckman taking a free kick from the goal square.
 
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Heard a really interesting scenario on the radio the other morning.

Makes for interesting discussion

Hawks v Port game as an example
Juse before the last bounce, why didn't Hawthorn simply flood the backline.
4 players at the centre bounce and the other 14 in defence
Should have just deliberately rushed it. Worst case it's a ball up, back yourselves to stop that being a goal.

Possibly never should have happened though:
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/d...n/news-story/c16fa2fe29f820c75a231e0cbe2f8025
 
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I'm fairly sure the umpires have discretion to pay a 50m penalty if they deem the 6v6v6 violation to be deliberate, or if the team fails to correct it. The requirement isn't released once a free kick is paid, so if the team floods 14 players back and stay there, it would likely end up with the ruckman taking a free kick from the goal square.
I don't believe that rule your quoting exists.
Once the 666 violation free kick is awarded the free is taken straight away (no time held for players to abide by the 666 rules)

Happy to be proven otherwise

Laura Kane was investigating it I believe
 
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I don't believe that rule your quoting exists.
Once the 666 violation free kick is awarded the free is taken straight away (no time held for players to abide by the 666 rules)

Happy to be proven otherwise

Laura Kane was investigating it I believe
Yeah interesting! I was going off a few articles I’d read that talked about it but nothing in terms of official rules outside of the standard position stuff.
Safe to say if there is a loophole there it will be shut down immediately, cause the coaches will be all over it now!
 

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Heard a really interesting scenario on the radio the other morning.

Makes for interesting discussion

Hawks v Port game as an example
Juse before the last bounce, why didn't Hawthorn simply flood the backline.
4 players at the centre bounce and the other 14 in defence
Could the umpire just use common sense and refuse to ball up until the players are in their correct positions?
I think this is how its applied for the warning anyway, the field umpire waits until players are in their correct positions before bouncing/throwing up the ball.
And as @Connoisseur shows can’t pull this little trick, otherwise its a free and 50.
No loophole there 😩
 
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I just wanted to post this up here even for a short time.

After 12 years in Australia, I’m moving back to the UK. I lost my job last year, and have found a great new opportunity back close to my family.

SCS has left a huge impression on my life. It sounds odd perhaps, but as an expat new to a big welcoming city like Sydney (!), most of my close friends are expats too. SCS gave me a link to Australian culture, people, sports, banter. I’m a far better fantasy player thanks to you all, but more so I have a far greater understanding of what it is to be Australian thanks to you all. I’m a Swans member, and I’m even a founding member of the Tassie side because why not?!

Many would say my highlight was winning the Premier League a few years back. But my highlight was the laughs, sharing common interest, and the kind check-ins over the years.

I will still check-in, and may even play SC casually in the future.

Australia is home to me, thanks for making me feel so welcome. You’re all bloody legends.
 
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I just wanted to post this up here even for a short time.

After 12 years in Australia, I’m moving back to the UK. I lost my job last year, and have found a great new opportunity back close to my family.

SCS has left a huge impression on my life. It sounds odd perhaps, but as an expat new to a big welcoming city like Sydney (!), most of my close friends are expats too. SCS gave me a link to Australian culture, people, sports, banter. I’m a far better fantasy player thanks to you all, but more so I have a far greater understanding of what it is to be Australian thanks to you all. I’m a Swans member, and I’m even a founding member of the Tassie side because why not?!

Many would say my highlight was winning the Premier League a few years back. But my highlight was the laughs, sharing common interest, and the kind check-ins over the years.

I will still check-in, and may even play SC casually in the future.

Australia is home to me, thanks for making me feel so welcome. You’re all bloody legends.
All the best Jaca. Always enjoyed your contributions.
 
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I just wanted to post this up here even for a short time.

After 12 years in Australia, I’m moving back to the UK. I lost my job last year, and have found a great new opportunity back close to my family.

SCS has left a huge impression on my life. It sounds odd perhaps, but as an expat new to a big welcoming city like Sydney (!), most of my close friends are expats too. SCS gave me a link to Australian culture, people, sports, banter. I’m a far better fantasy player thanks to you all, but more so I have a far greater understanding of what it is to be Australian thanks to you all. I’m a Swans member, and I’m even a founding member of the Tassie side because why not?!

Many would say my highlight was winning the Premier League a few years back. But my highlight was the laughs, sharing common interest, and the kind check-ins over the years.

I will still check-in, and may even play SC casually in the future.

Australia is home to me, thanks for making me feel so welcome. You’re all bloody legends.
All the best Jaca!
 
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I just wanted to post this up here even for a short time.

After 12 years in Australia, I’m moving back to the UK. I lost my job last year, and have found a great new opportunity back close to my family.

SCS has left a huge impression on my life. It sounds odd perhaps, but as an expat new to a big welcoming city like Sydney (!), most of my close friends are expats too. SCS gave me a link to Australian culture, people, sports, banter. I’m a far better fantasy player thanks to you all, but more so I have a far greater understanding of what it is to be Australian thanks to you all. I’m a Swans member, and I’m even a founding member of the Tassie side because why not?!

Many would say my highlight was winning the Premier League a few years back. But my highlight was the laughs, sharing common interest, and the kind check-ins over the years.

I will still check-in, and may even play SC casually in the future.

Australia is home to me, thanks for making me feel so welcome. You’re all bloody legends.
All the best mate, you will be missed!
 
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I just wanted to post this up here even for a short time.

After 12 years in Australia, I’m moving back to the UK. I lost my job last year, and have found a great new opportunity back close to my family.

SCS has left a huge impression on my life. It sounds odd perhaps, but as an expat new to a big welcoming city like Sydney (!), most of my close friends are expats too. SCS gave me a link to Australian culture, people, sports, banter. I’m a far better fantasy player thanks to you all, but more so I have a far greater understanding of what it is to be Australian thanks to you all. I’m a Swans member, and I’m even a founding member of the Tassie side because why not?!

Many would say my highlight was winning the Premier League a few years back. But my highlight was the laughs, sharing common interest, and the kind check-ins over the years.

I will still check-in, and may even play SC casually in the future.

Australia is home to me, thanks for making me feel so welcome. You’re all bloody legends.
I have been wondering how you are going as I haven't seen you around this season. You've always been a great presence around here and so far as online mates go, I've always valued your input and our chats. Hope all goes well back in the UK and the family is well.
 
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There is always a lot of talk about the AFL fixtures and how they are better for some teams, worse for others and that the fixtures should be fairer. That will never happen because of TV rights and it will become worse if AFL is no longer free to air.

But in the USA the NFL take this to another level. Not only do they have fixtures that are not balanced but they do it deliberately and are quite happy to tell everyone they are doing it. Here is an article on the NY Jets. With NY being one of the biggest sports markets in the US the people that control the broadcasting of the NFL want to get action in that space. So the NFL obliged. Article from a website I regularly visit in the NFL season. The Aaron Rogers mentioned is a legendary QB who plays for the Jets and was injured game one last season.

This is where the AFL is heading.


Last year, it was well known that the NFL handed the Jets the best rest edge schedule and hoped to see them thrive.

When making the schedule last year, Mike North, NFL’s VP of Broadcast Planning, admitted they were “all in on the Jets” and hoping that the Jets were a good team because the NFL wants their primetime games to display well.

Unfortunately, Aaron Rodgers’ injury put Zach Wilson and company on primetime last year, and it was a bad look for the NFL.

But the NFL went right back to the Jets.

Per North:

“Now Aaron Rodgers seems like he’s healthy. He seems like he’s relevant. The Jets seem to have gotten better. So, are we all in again on the Jets? Yes.”

First and foremost, they front-loaded their schedule with absolute cupcakes after their Week 1 game.

The Jets schedule Weeks 1 through 5 is easiest in the NFL. They could face 3 straight rookie QBs, with every rookie QB playing away from his home stadium:

  • Week 3 home vs NE (Drake Maye)
  • Week 4 home vs DEN (Bo Nix)
  • Week 5 London vs MIN (J.J. McCarthy)
In the last decade, rookie QBs are just 36-76 (0.325) in Weeks 1 through 5.

In those first five games, the Jets play only one team projected to win 7+ games. As a result, the NFL is likely hoping the Jets are 4-1 or 5-0, which will then start a huge primetime TV stretch for the Jets.

From Week 6 through 11, the Jets are in Primetime for 4 of their 6 games:

  • Week 6 vs. Bills (MNF)
  • Week 7 at Steelers (SNF)
  • Week 9 vs. Texans (TNF)
  • Week 11 vs. Colts (SNF)
The Jets are the first team in NFL history to receive six Primetime games in the first 11 weeks of the season. Considering the narratives that the NFL prioritizes, it makes perfect sense.

If the league front-loaded the Jets’ schedule with hard teams and they started 1-4 or 2-3, they aren’t nearly as compelling on all these primetime games.

But if, in the buildup to the games, the league can promote the 4-1 or 5-0 Jets heading into a huge game against Josh Allen’s Bills on Monday Night Football, they’ll be absolutely ecstatic.

So whereas last year the NFL gave the Jets a great rest schedule, this year, they focused on ensuring the Jets start quickly.

I called out last year at this time how the Jets were given distinct rest edges in each of their final four divisional games down the stretch. The NFL did a better job of eliminating that bias in the 2024 schedule.

In fact, the Jets have identical rest to their divisional opponents in 5-of-6 games this year, so zero rest edges to speak of in-division.

But the rest edges they do have are more front-loaded, just like their opponents.

The Jets have a bye and two mini-byes. Those games are all in the first 13 weeks of the season:

  • Week 4 home +3 days extra rest off a mini-bye, facing the Broncos
  • Week 10 away +3 days extra rest off a mini-bye, facing the Cardinals
  • Week 13 home with +7 days extra rest off a bye, facing the Seahawks
The only two games they play with a rest deficit in the first 13 weeks are both games with only a -1-day rest edge, following their two Monday night games.

There is no doubt, whether it’s just me looking solely at their schedule or words straight from the NFL, that the schedule has been constructed in the hope and interest that they win games this year.

That would ultimately set them up for three consecutive games to close the season, all at home, against the Bills, Dolphins, and Rams, with the hope that the Jets are solidly in playoff contention and those games not only are meaningful, but could be flexed into primetime viewing.

Which is why the NFL decided to give the Jets the maximum number of primetime games this year but shove them all into the first 11 weeks before flex scheduling ramps up.

If Rodgers is healthy and the Jets are successful, there is no doubt we’ll see them on primetime 7+ games this year. I predict it will be at some point during that three-game home stand to close the year.
 
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There is always a lot of talk about the AFL fixtures and how they are better for some teams, worse for others and that the fixtures should be fairer. That will never happen because of TV rights and it will become worse if AFL is no longer free to air.

But in the USA the NFL take this to another level. Not only do they have fixtures that are not balanced but they do it deliberately and are quite happy to tell everyone they are doing it. Here is an article on the NY Jets. With NY being one of the biggest sports markets in the US the people that control the broadcasting of the NFL want to get action in that space. So the NFL obliged. Article from a website I regularly visit in the NFL season. The Aaron Rogers mentioned is a legendary QB who plays for the Jets and was injured game one last season.

This is where the AFL is heading.


Last year, it was well known that the NFL handed the Jets the best rest edge schedule and hoped to see them thrive.

When making the schedule last year, Mike North, NFL’s VP of Broadcast Planning, admitted they were “all in on the Jets” and hoping that the Jets were a good team because the NFL wants their primetime games to display well.

Unfortunately, Aaron Rodgers’ injury put Zach Wilson and company on primetime last year, and it was a bad look for the NFL.

But the NFL went right back to the Jets.

Per North:

“Now Aaron Rodgers seems like he’s healthy. He seems like he’s relevant. The Jets seem to have gotten better. So, are we all in again on the Jets? Yes.”

First and foremost, they front-loaded their schedule with absolute cupcakes after their Week 1 game.

The Jets schedule Weeks 1 through 5 is easiest in the NFL. They could face 3 straight rookie QBs, with every rookie QB playing away from his home stadium:

  • Week 3 home vs NE (Drake Maye)
  • Week 4 home vs DEN (Bo Nix)
  • Week 5 London vs MIN (J.J. McCarthy)
In the last decade, rookie QBs are just 36-76 (0.325) in Weeks 1 through 5.

In those first five games, the Jets play only one team projected to win 7+ games. As a result, the NFL is likely hoping the Jets are 4-1 or 5-0, which will then start a huge primetime TV stretch for the Jets.

From Week 6 through 11, the Jets are in Primetime for 4 of their 6 games:

  • Week 6 vs. Bills (MNF)
  • Week 7 at Steelers (SNF)
  • Week 9 vs. Texans (TNF)
  • Week 11 vs. Colts (SNF)
The Jets are the first team in NFL history to receive six Primetime games in the first 11 weeks of the season. Considering the narratives that the NFL prioritizes, it makes perfect sense.

If the league front-loaded the Jets’ schedule with hard teams and they started 1-4 or 2-3, they aren’t nearly as compelling on all these primetime games.

But if, in the buildup to the games, the league can promote the 4-1 or 5-0 Jets heading into a huge game against Josh Allen’s Bills on Monday Night Football, they’ll be absolutely ecstatic.

So whereas last year the NFL gave the Jets a great rest schedule, this year, they focused on ensuring the Jets start quickly.

I called out last year at this time how the Jets were given distinct rest edges in each of their final four divisional games down the stretch. The NFL did a better job of eliminating that bias in the 2024 schedule.

In fact, the Jets have identical rest to their divisional opponents in 5-of-6 games this year, so zero rest edges to speak of in-division.

But the rest edges they do have are more front-loaded, just like their opponents.

The Jets have a bye and two mini-byes. Those games are all in the first 13 weeks of the season:

  • Week 4 home +3 days extra rest off a mini-bye, facing the Broncos
  • Week 10 away +3 days extra rest off a mini-bye, facing the Cardinals
  • Week 13 home with +7 days extra rest off a bye, facing the Seahawks
The only two games they play with a rest deficit in the first 13 weeks are both games with only a -1-day rest edge, following their two Monday night games.

There is no doubt, whether it’s just me looking solely at their schedule or words straight from the NFL, that the schedule has been constructed in the hope and interest that they win games this year.

That would ultimately set them up for three consecutive games to close the season, all at home, against the Bills, Dolphins, and Rams, with the hope that the Jets are solidly in playoff contention and those games not only are meaningful, but could be flexed into primetime viewing.

Which is why the NFL decided to give the Jets the maximum number of primetime games this year but shove them all into the first 11 weeks before flex scheduling ramps up.

If Rodgers is healthy and the Jets are successful, there is no doubt we’ll see them on primetime 7+ games this year. I predict it will be at some point during that three-game home stand to close the year.
I understand it, but the Jets just don't seem the most popular team. From a few searches, Jets are (were) 28th of the 32 teams in the amount of social media followers, and ranked 22nd in terms of people having a positive opinion of the team earlier this year (39%). They did have the third highest attendance per game last season, but all clubs seem well supported (all teams averaged 60K+, Jets averaged 77K).

AFL definitely prioritizes certain teams though with scheduling to maximise profits. Fairness doesn't play much of a part. Not sure it's quite at NFL level, but they're getting there.
 
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I have been wondering how you are going as I haven't seen you around this season. You've always been a great presence around here and so far as online mates go, I've always valued your input and our chats. Hope all goes well back in the UK and the family is well.
Cheers mate. Wish we’d met in person, think we’d have got on well.
 
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I just wanted to post this up here even for a short time.

After 12 years in Australia, I’m moving back to the UK. I lost my job last year, and have found a great new opportunity back close to my family.

SCS has left a huge impression on my life. It sounds odd perhaps, but as an expat new to a big welcoming city like Sydney (!), most of my close friends are expats too. SCS gave me a link to Australian culture, people, sports, banter. I’m a far better fantasy player thanks to you all, but more so I have a far greater understanding of what it is to be Australian thanks to you all. I’m a Swans member, and I’m even a founding member of the Tassie side because why not?!

Many would say my highlight was winning the Premier League a few years back. But my highlight was the laughs, sharing common interest, and the kind check-ins over the years.

I will still check-in, and may even play SC casually in the future.

Australia is home to me, thanks for making me feel so welcome. You’re all bloody legends.
Hi Jaca, I don't know you but I can see you've been around on SCS almost since the start, just because you're moving from Oz back to the U.K doesn't mean you can't keep playing Supercoach and being a member of SCS does it? It's not like you're getting transferred to north British Columbia or something...lol. Lots of people on here live in different countries.
Anyways, I just reckon pretend you didn't move at all and keep going with S.C and SCS :)
 
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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I just wanted to post this up here even for a short time.

After 12 years in Australia, I’m moving back to the UK. I lost my job last year, and have found a great new opportunity back close to my family.

SCS has left a huge impression on my life. It sounds odd perhaps, but as an expat new to a big welcoming city like Sydney (!), most of my close friends are expats too. SCS gave me a link to Australian culture, people, sports, banter. I’m a far better fantasy player thanks to you all, but more so I have a far greater understanding of what it is to be Australian thanks to you all. I’m a Swans member, and I’m even a founding member of the Tassie side because why not?!

Many would say my highlight was winning the Premier League a few years back. But my highlight was the laughs, sharing common interest, and the kind check-ins over the years.

I will still check-in, and may even play SC casually in the future.

Australia is home to me, thanks for making me feel so welcome. You’re all bloody legends.
Take care of yourself and your young family Jaca, wishing you all the best mate.
 

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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I just wanted to post this up here even for a short time.

After 12 years in Australia, I’m moving back to the UK. I lost my job last year, and have found a great new opportunity back close to my family.

SCS has left a huge impression on my life. It sounds odd perhaps, but as an expat new to a big welcoming city like Sydney (!), most of my close friends are expats too. SCS gave me a link to Australian culture, people, sports, banter. I’m a far better fantasy player thanks to you all, but more so I have a far greater understanding of what it is to be Australian thanks to you all. I’m a Swans member, and I’m even a founding member of the Tassie side because why not?!

Many would say my highlight was winning the Premier League a few years back. But my highlight was the laughs, sharing common interest, and the kind check-ins over the years.

I will still check-in, and may even play SC casually in the future.

Australia is home to me, thanks for making me feel so welcome. You’re all bloody legends.
All the very best mate, you're contributions to the site are always positive. Don't be a stranger, stay involved and around SCS.
 
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