Discussion 2025: AFL SuperCoach Discussion - OPEN
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Yeh 3% was taken off everyone to squeeze an extra into the 10m budget.
102,400 rookie is now 99,100.
23 premiums is a goal and doesn't necessarily need to be made up of six forwards.
Finish 9/10 premium mids or 3 premium rucks with 5 forwards.
Loop off a possible tagged mid and replace them with the 10th mid.
102,400 rookie is now 99,100.
23 premiums is a goal and doesn't necessarily need to be made up of six forwards.
Finish 9/10 premium mids or 3 premium rucks with 5 forwards.
Loop off a possible tagged mid and replace them with the 10th mid.
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Probably depends how fit they are really. Likely answer is not as much but should still be in the mix. ANB is gone who was one of the other guys getting reps in there, Pickett suspension early will not help us work out the mix.
I would guess he probably takes the 1st change midfield role if Oliver, Viney and Petracca all fit which should be good for somewhere in the 60% of CBA.
He's definitely a high risk pick, the potential is there as a pure HB but he's been very inconsistent in that role so really does need the midfield minutes to make a breakout more likely than not.
Truth is that he wasn't that flash even as a mid, 11 games at a 94.5 average, including the game that Petracca was injured which helps this average and was the 3rd best score of the 11. You'd have to think that with a healthy Petracca and a fit Oliver it would be a pretty big challenge to better that.
The backs definitely have the potential to be either incredibly boring or very diverse depending on a few guys. They r0 factor knocks several of the otherwise top options down a peg. Then you've got an overload of either the Freo/Saints bye or the North/Carlton/WB/Port first up bye for the other standout options. Finding guys from other byes means some real interesting options, basically McGovern, Hinge, Vlastuin or May are the top priced options if that was your criteria. I'd say all of them range from extremely volatile to bad options!
I would guess he probably takes the 1st change midfield role if Oliver, Viney and Petracca all fit which should be good for somewhere in the 60% of CBA.
He's definitely a high risk pick, the potential is there as a pure HB but he's been very inconsistent in that role so really does need the midfield minutes to make a breakout more likely than not.
Truth is that he wasn't that flash even as a mid, 11 games at a 94.5 average, including the game that Petracca was injured which helps this average and was the 3rd best score of the 11. You'd have to think that with a healthy Petracca and a fit Oliver it would be a pretty big challenge to better that.
The backs definitely have the potential to be either incredibly boring or very diverse depending on a few guys. They r0 factor knocks several of the otherwise top options down a peg. Then you've got an overload of either the Freo/Saints bye or the North/Carlton/WB/Port first up bye for the other standout options. Finding guys from other byes means some real interesting options, basically McGovern, Hinge, Vlastuin or May are the top priced options if that was your criteria. I'd say all of them range from extremely volatile to bad options!
Good on you for trying to come up with a different approach, especially if your approach to date isn’t working for you.
I can see a benefit in starting to upgrade earlier, but in banking 400k to start, I think you are effectively starting one upgrade behind other teams. Ie the first upgrade (or first two half upgrades) are essentially catching you up to where other teams start, and you have likely foregone some points while you are one premium short.
Is there a pricing benefit you see from structuring up this way? I can see some potential if you can buy discounted premos that others can’t access, but whether this is a big advantage may depend on whether a premium that isn’t widely owned cops a very low score in one of the first few rounds.
I can see a benefit in starting to upgrade earlier, but in banking 400k to start, I think you are effectively starting one upgrade behind other teams. Ie the first upgrade (or first two half upgrades) are essentially catching you up to where other teams start, and you have likely foregone some points while you are one premium short.
Is there a pricing benefit you see from structuring up this way? I can see some potential if you can buy discounted premos that others can’t access, but whether this is a big advantage may depend on whether a premium that isn’t widely owned cops a very low score in one of the first few rounds.
I agree. You are 1 premium and points behind. The benefit would be an extra cash cow. I could see the benefit if there is a good crop of rnd 1 cash cows. Rather than taking the chance they will show up when you need them during upgrades. But you could always trade down to the good cows and bank the money in the early rounds anyway. I haven't seen many winners articles of late so don't know if a winner has ever started with a lot of money in the bank.
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What do SCS coaches think of Tim Taranto's prospects this season.
At around $509K, he's priced at 94.5 which I reckon is well under what he has shown before. Up to the R15 bye in his first season at Richmond he was averaging around 120 ... not sure why he really dropped off after that. Last year was very much injury interupted.
He's around prime 26/27 age & if he's fully fit, what can he average this season?
At around $509K, he's priced at 94.5 which I reckon is well under what he has shown before. Up to the R15 bye in his first season at Richmond he was averaging around 120 ... not sure why he really dropped off after that. Last year was very much injury interupted.
He's around prime 26/27 age & if he's fully fit, what can he average this season?
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Taranto has often looked more a Fantasy option more than a SC option. This year again I think he will be a popular Fantasy choice. But as a SC choice I am not so sure. He does feel like a 100-105 sort of player. For me that’s then a question of whether you strategizing value plays with a view of upgrading them, or whether you looking at starting him in the hope he is a keeper. I think he might represent a little value as a stepping stone, but I don’t see him as a keeper
Thanks for your response. I'm not under any illusions that this strategy will work but if I can pick the right midpricers and rookies I think there could be some merit.
What I'm hoping is that the best 18 from the bye rounds also benefits this strategy. I must say I'll have to be very savvy with trading as I will need to trade the right midpricers to the fallen premos.
I'm also tailoring my side to exploit what I deem as value in the cap e.g strong forward line midpricers and high end midpricers in the midfield.
I don't fully trust too many backline premiums either. Maybe I've talked myself into that but if I can spread the funds around I think that 400k will not be the 70+ points per week extra that it is valued at.
If I can get an extra 150-200k cash generation and by using boosts I can hopefully make up some of the lost points.
I don't really think I will be behind when it comes to trades because I still have that 400k there and while it could be seen as one extra trade of a rookie to premium I think in reality if I can spread it around over several trades i shouldn't be behind in trades...it will just be the overall points.
Anyway, I'm glad to generate some discussion. I need to think about it a bit more too but I'm pretty much committed. I'll be aiming for 400kish but will be flexible too. If I get a team I want with 300k in the bank, I'll take it. I will be pretty strict about leaving 300k or more though.
What I'm hoping is that the best 18 from the bye rounds also benefits this strategy. I must say I'll have to be very savvy with trading as I will need to trade the right midpricers to the fallen premos.
I'm also tailoring my side to exploit what I deem as value in the cap e.g strong forward line midpricers and high end midpricers in the midfield.
I don't fully trust too many backline premiums either. Maybe I've talked myself into that but if I can spread the funds around I think that 400k will not be the 70+ points per week extra that it is valued at.
If I can get an extra 150-200k cash generation and by using boosts I can hopefully make up some of the lost points.
I don't really think I will be behind when it comes to trades because I still have that 400k there and while it could be seen as one extra trade of a rookie to premium I think in reality if I can spread it around over several trades i shouldn't be behind in trades...it will just be the overall points.
Anyway, I'm glad to generate some discussion. I need to think about it a bit more too but I'm pretty much committed. I'll be aiming for 400kish but will be flexible too. If I get a team I want with 300k in the bank, I'll take it. I will be pretty strict about leaving 300k or more though.
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I don't dislike the idea of having money left over to facilitate upgrades as quickly as possible, but I do worry about how many trades you are going to have to use to reach a team that is strong as other finished teams. Are you hoping that Cerra, Ashcroft, Short, and Rivers will all be premiums, and stay in the team for the year? If so, you are banking on a number of players reaching a level they haven't reached before. There are a few injury prone players in there as well. If one or two of them get injuries early on, your money will be spent just on correcting them, and so you are already trades down, while getting to a structure that everyone already started with effectively. While the extra trades we now have seem like a lot, they dissipate quickly, especially if have to do a lot of extra corrections/upgrades. I will say, the money does give you flexibility though, which is always handy if you need to pivot quickly. Good luck, I will be interested to see how it goes throughout the year.