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This is a completely different strategy than I’ve opted for in the past, as I’ve always went for the cheapest possible rookies on my bench, with starting as many high end premiums on field my priority. I guess I feel like I’m a premium short but I’m hoping I’ll be able to make ground quickly with some aggressive trading early in the season.

Although it’s very early into the preseason, this year it appears as though there’ll be a plethora of 150-200K priced players that will not only play consistently but have SuperCoach friendly roles as well.

I plan on going extremely lean in the midfield with Bont and Butters as my two captain options and Oliver who I believe will bounce back to a 105-110 average followed by rookie priced players.

Nathan O’Driscall hasn’t been talked about much on here but I believe his in Freo’s best 22 & could easily average around 70-75 this year playing on the opposite wing to Sharp.

Ed Allan played the final two games of the season and finished the season with a score of 94. His now entering his third preseason and has already been getting praise from team mates and coaching staff alike. He could be the pick of the bunch come round one.

Elijah Tsatas is another rookie priced player heading into his third preseason with the former number 5 pick featuring in this report only yesterday: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...ws-story/13cfea37dccf787ccc2922cd60b580be?amp (I don’t have access too it but the title paints a pretty clear picture) so his another contender to solidify a spot in his respective clubs best 22.

Then there’s Smith, Draper, Ashcroft, Langford and Smilie who all look like playing early and have shown they’ve got what it takes to post some monster SuperCoach scores as a junior… (Smilie misses out for now because his the cheapest but there’s every chance I downgrade someone like Powell-Pepper to him come round one)

Going light on in the mids has allowed me to get Flanders in down back which has really bolstered my back line as well which I like, given there doesn’t appear to be as many cheaper options in the frame for round one compared to the midfield and forward line.

Any thoughts, feedback and/or criticism welcome! :)




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Not concerned by Rioli and Noble's potential impact on Flanders? Plus the early bye is a negative as well.
 
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Not concerned by Rioli and Noble's potential impact on Flanders? Plus the early bye is a negative as well.
I'm fairly certain Flanders played high minutes in the midfield at the end of last season, and was very good at it. Not sure the Suns defensive alignments effect him much if his midfield spot holds this season.
 
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And it feels like all the other options are the Freo/Saints guys :LOL:

The backs are especially bad for the byes. McGovern somehow a top option if you factor byes.
Is there much scoring upside in McGovern though? 2024 was by far his best year in terms of SC surpassing his previous best set in 2017 by 20 pts. Plus he is held together with sticky tape. He played 19 games last year and that was the most in a season since 2019. The risk is he plays 15 games and returns to an 85 ave which might be worse than taking an early bye player.

The AFL stitched up SC nicely with the bye structure. I only have one Rd 14 and one Rd 16 bye player currently.
 
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I'm fairly certain Flanders played high minutes in the midfield at the end of last season, and was very good at it. Not sure the Suns defensive alignments effect him much if his midfield spot holds this season.
Yep! Flanders is a genuine superstar and will score well regardless of the position his playing in. I also feel like the defenders in SuperCoach this year are going to be slightly weaker than previous years.

Obviously Daicos is a mid only, Ryan definitely faded in the back half of last year with Clark appearing to take some points of him, then there’s the likes of Zorko and McGovern who’s output will also likely decline…

Even if Flanders average drops too 110 or so, I dare say he’d still well and truly be in the top couple of defenders!

His someone I’d want in my team to finish the season & given his super easy draw to start the year, I may as well start with him!
 
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Yep! Flanders is a genuine superstar and will score well regardless of the position his playing in. I also feel like the defenders in SuperCoach this year are going to be slightly weaker than previous years.

Obviously Daicos is a mid only, Ryan definitely faded in the back half of last year with Clark appearing to take some points of him, then there’s the likes of Zorko and McGovern who’s output will also likely decline…

Even if Flanders average drops too 110 or so, I dare say he’d still well and truly be in the top couple of defenders!

His someone I’d want in my team to finish the season & given his super easy draw to start the year, I may as well start with him!
Agree 100% mate

Flanders a lock for me
 
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Currently running with just Phillipou & Travaglia mate

Sinclair could make his way in due to friendly bye & im fading Macrae at this stage
I'm going with Nas, Travaglia, Macrae and Phillipou at the moment, had Marshall too but not sure if Boyd will be sharing yet.
Sinclair turning 30 scares me off a bit for his price, Macrae is at least cheap so should be worth it.
 
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Is there much scoring upside in McGovern though? 2024 was by far his best year in terms of SC surpassing his previous best set in 2017 by 20 pts. Plus he is held together with sticky tape. He played 19 games last year and that was the most in a season since 2019. The risk is he plays 15 games and returns to an 85 ave which might be worse than taking an early bye player.

The AFL stitched up SC nicely with the bye structure. I only have one Rd 14 and one Rd 16 bye player currently.
Haha, that was the point, you've summarised him perfectly but he's legitimately one of, if not the, best viable options.

Flanders - r0
Sheezel - r12
Ryan - r13
Whitfield - r0
Zorko - r0
McGovern - r15
Sinclair - r13
Houston - r0
Martin - r0
Clark - r13
Ridley - r0
Newman - r12
NWM - r13
Holmes - r0
Sicily - r0
Dale - r12
Blakey - r0
Stewart - r0
McGrath - r0
Hinge - r15
Rioli - r0
Wikie - r13
Amon - r0
Vlastuin - r14
Himmelberg - r0

That's the top 25 starting defenders. Round 12 isn't as bad here as other positions but it's the worst bye to be heavy in and top options on other lines are very heavy into this group. Round 13 bye is overloaded with 4 genuinely very good options, can probably only afford to take 3 at the absolute most. Round 14 has Vlastuin who is an interesting option but has never gone close to the top 8 level based on starting averages. Then you've got McGovern who've you've described and Hinge who you basically also described give or take on the numbers.

So basically you've got Sheezel, who will most likely be among the very highest picked who stands alone as a clear top option. Then you've got Sinclair/Ryan at premium pricing and NWM/Clark as breakout gambles. Then you've got the Gov/Hinge/Vlastuin extreme gambles and then the r0 guys that are all effectively 60 points down to start the season.

And just for extra salt, there's a distinct lack of rookies at this early junction.

Definitely some genuine merit to targeting the likes of Holmes, Sicily or Stewart post bye, all will have 1-2 price rises by then but we get a reveal on if they're going to be worth having and/or break out. Obviously early trade plans are always rort with danger.

The other name that stands out to me as a very viable option is Laird, if it's obvious that he's going to be playing HB, I think there's a really strong case to grab him as a starting defender. Not ideal that it doesn't help with the rookie balance if the back rookies are as thin as they appear.
 
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Not concerned by Rioli and Noble's potential impact on Flanders? Plus the early bye is a negative as well.
Flanders was very reliably the third or fourth mid in the second half of the season in the games I saw. I'd be comfortable taking him because he's not just playing out of the back pocket any more. He's like the anti-Mills.
 
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Flanders was very reliably the third or fourth mid in the second half of the season in the games I saw. I'd be comfortable taking him because he's not just playing out of the back pocket any more. He's like the anti-Mills.
I'm a little suss on Flanders role TBH. There was a distinct shift into a midfield role post bye, but his last 3 games were spent a lot more forward with a corresponding drop in CBA's.

Dimma is a bit set in his ways with how he wants the players to have certain roles and is one of the reasons why Rioli was targeted. Flanders, to me, looks like he's being groomed for that 'striker' role, very much in the vein of how Dusty was used. If that's the case, then I can't see him hurting too much from a scoring or price perspective and looks to be an ideal upgrade target post the early byes.
 
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Trying to avoid the early byes the best I can but still want to take advantage of a couple of value picks. Of course, in doing that it's led to a heavier weighting of round 12 & 13 players, although I think I'm still reasonably well balanced (the team that is, not me personally)

Below is a list of Premos and MP's missing on each round.

Rnd 2: 0
Rnd 3: 2
Rnd 4: 0

Rnd 12: 4
Rnd 13: 4
Rnd 14: 1
Rnd 15: 5
Rnd 16: 2

Round 15 includes Peatling and Cumming who I'm hoping can hold down their spots until rnd 13 where they then can be upgraded to players coming off their byes.

Post the early byes I'll be targeting upgrades from players having byes in rnds 14, 15 & 16 along with the aforementioned.

I think I've allocated enough cash to the rookie placeholders to avoid having to pull the team apart should an expensive, must have rookie or two present themselves. Can't see a major shift happening, just a few tweaks here and there.

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