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Hey Row just thinking about next week's trades, would you consider bringing in Selwood BEFORE Pendlebury?

Next week I can only afford one, and I was going to bring in Pendles, but the 100k I save by bringing in Selwood would be nice. Do you know what Pendlebury's BE us next week? Is it high enough to think he'll fall in price?
Hey bloke,
coming into round 9 Pendles was $645,300 B/E ~162
With his 128 he should fall to $630,300 B/E ~150
He is playing WC at the MCG next, so you can probably expect a small price fall after that. But small enough to not put you off trading him in.
Selwood's 140 should see him $547,400 B/E ~97 heading into next week. That made that decision easy!
 
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Hey Row.
To finish off my mids I was planning on trying to get in Watson, Selwood and SJ. After yesterdays Freo Geelong game SJ was well held by Crowley. Do you think other teams will focus on SJ rather than Selwood? I suppose SJ can be more damaging and potentially a game winner. If that is the case should I be looking at another mid instead of SJ to finish my mids? Will save cash too.

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Hey Rowsus,

I thought I would ask you about the timing of upgrading given your statistical nous.

My trades for next week were going to be as follows:

Dunstan to Hartung
Tyson to Selwood
JKH to Boomer

But there are 2 key problems with them:

1. Tyson is scoring better than Selwood! Is it worth keeping him until he drops off and trading my other rookies instead? (Problem is, my only other rookies peaked are Polec and Langdon, same scenario!)

2. Am I right in thinking it's not a good idea trading in Boomer after a 180? He's surely not the best value at 515k? Who is better value though? Petrie, Cloke, Wingard and Westhoff are rubbish! Maybe wait a week or 2 for Tex/NRoo/Roughy?
Hey Footy,
to be honest, I think people are getting a little too excited over Polec!
107, 99, 71, 98, 107, 89, 141, 66 - $446,700 B/E ~62
The 141 drops out of his pricing cycle after round 10, and without it he is averaging 91.
A 91 average would see him heading to a peak price of about $452,000! Probably about where he will be after next week when he plays Hawthorn. Yes, he gets Melbourne and St Kilda after Hawthorn, and could score ok, but if he scores 85 against Hawthorn he will be priced at $456,800 with a B/E 125. He only has one score over 125, so he probably starts to lose money, and will only go up about $10k after the Hawthorn game.
Tyson is in a more tradeable position for most Coaches, being a round 10 player, but now everyone is rightly wanting to hold him.
111, 105, 94, 50, 49, 83, 112, 136, 122 $455,800 B/E~17
He has 4 scores better than Polecs 2nd best score, and take off his best score, like we did with Polec, and he's averaging 91, just like Polec! His next 2 games are bye, Port, Collingwood. If he scores 91 in each of those, he ends up about $492,000 B/E 116. He becomes an expensive M9 if you can afford to carry him, or a likely slightly underperforming M8, or a Cow that has reached it's potential, like Polec pretty much has.
Langdon is a whole different catagory, and should definitely be ridden out (kept) while he is producing scores like this. The big difference is, it's easier to accept something slightly sub-quality from a D6, than a M8.
$515k is high for Boomer, but if you like him over the others, take him, and damn the 179. If you wait, you have to wait about 5 weeks! 2 weeks for the 179 to cycle out, and another 3 weeks for his price to fall again. With North's draw, he's likely to keep scoring well.
 

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I've been annoyed all night that I went for dal santo instead of boomer thinking he'd be the same price next week. What will his price be lol
He's still gettable, he should go up just under $30k to about $515k
 

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Hey Row.
To finish off my mids I was planning on trying to get in Watson, Selwood and SJ. After yesterdays Freo Geelong game SJ was well held by Crowley. Do you think other teams will focus on SJ rather than Selwood? I suppose SJ can be more damaging and potentially a game winner. If that is the case should I be looking at another mid instead of SJ to finish my mids? Will save cash too.

Cheers.
Hey Juzzo,
stick with SJ, but wait for the 53 to cycle out, and save a heap of Cash.
 
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Hey bloke,
coming into round 9 Pendles was $645,300 B/E ~162
With his 128 he should fall to $630,300 B/E ~150
He is playing WC at the MCG next, so you can probably expect a small price fall after that. But small enough to not put you off trading him in.
Selwood's 140 should see him $547,400 B/E ~97 heading into next week. That made that decision easy!
Thanks Rowsus. I might be able to get both in but otherwise I'll go for Selwood I think
 

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Hey Rowsus, just a quick one.. with Stevie J throwing up a super low score in a few weeks he'll be a bargain. Would you be able to work out how much he'd be when the 53 cycles out if he scored 110-120 the next 2 weeks? Thanks!
 

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Hey Rowsus, just a quick one.. with Stevie J throwing up a super low score in a few weeks he'll be a bargain. Would you be able to work out how much he'd be when the 53 cycles out if he scored 110-120 the next 2 weeks? Thanks!
 

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Hey Rowsus, just a quick one.. with Stevie J throwing up a super low score in a few weeks he'll be a bargain. Would you be able to work out how much he'd be when the 53 cycles out if he scored 110-120 the next 2 weeks? Thanks!
Hey Krieks,
keep in mind his round 12 game is against Carlton. His worst record is against Carlton, where his highest score in 6 games is 92, and he averages 58.67 against them. (this is from SC gold, so it will exclude 2008, also keep in mind, he has scores a 4 against Carlton, obviously injury affected)

SJ currently $633,100 B/E 136
Rnd 9 scores 53 $596,600 B/E 172
Rnd 10 scores 115 $571,600 B/E 178
Rnd 11 scores 115 $543,900 B/E 100
 
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Hey Krieks,
keep in mind his round 12 game is against Carlton. His worst record is against Carlton, where his highest score in 6 games is 92, and he averages 58.67 against them. (this is from SC gold, so it will exclude 2008, also keep in mind, he has scores a 4 against Carlton, obviously injury affected)

SJ currently $633,100 B/E 136
Rnd 9 scores 53 $596,600 B/E 172
Rnd 10 scores 115 $571,600 B/E 178
Rnd 11 scores 115 $543,900 B/E 100
Do you think he'd be a good value pick up at $543k Rowsus or still too expensive?

Also what are your thought on Sandilands? There seemed to be a bit of consensus on here preseason he'd go down or get rested at some point, i was wondering whether next week was the week for a "Preemtive Strike" with him in regards to a sideways trade given it's his bye. Still looks like the best ruckman going around though, is it better just to ride it out and hope for the best?
 

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Do you think he'd be a good value pick up at $543k Rowsus or still too expensive?

Also what are your thought on Sandilands? There seemed to be a bit of consensus on here preseason he'd go down or get rested at some point, i was wondering whether next week was the week for a "Preemtive Strike" with him in regards to a sideways trade given it's his bye. Still looks like the best ruckman going around though, is it better just to ride it out and hope for the best?
I think $530-543k is about as low as his price will get. I certainly expect it to bottom out around round 12 or 13, then he gets to beat up on StK, GC, Ess, WB, Melb, GWS and Nth, before facing Crowley again. I will be doing my best to get him around round 12 or 13.
I will be riding Sandi out, and dealing with the problem if/when it arrives.
 
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"Earth calling the great one"
This will probably be one of the more stupid questions you have ever had and I'm more sort of thinking out loud rather than seriously considering this.
But what would your thoughts be on trading Langdon back in ?
It goes against all the rules of Supercoach. I was one of the many who traded him out early and since he has put together some very solid scores.
He looks to have silky skills and have time up his sleeve, very smooth, a little Pendleslike. He's running around the backline picking up stats at will and then uses his stats well.
Do you think he could end up a D6 or a handy M9 with his DPP.
I know the boat has sailed so would probably be better off getting Hurn or Enright.
Interested in your thoughts on this, (Don't be to hard on me with this ridiculous situation)
Thanks in advance.
 
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"Earth calling the great one"
This will probably be one of the more stupid questions you have ever had and I'm more sort of thinking out loud rather than seriously considering this.
But what would your thoughts be on trading Langdon back in ?
It goes against all the rules of Supercoach. I was one of the many who traded him out early and since he has put together some very solid scores.
He looks to have silky skills and have time up his sleeve, very smooth, a little Pendleslike. He's running around the backline picking up stats at will and then uses his stats well.
Do you think he could end up a D6 or a handy M9 with his DPP.
I know the boat has sailed so would probably be better off getting Hurn or Enright.
Interested in your thoughts on this, (Don't be to hard on me with this ridiculous situation)
Thanks in advance.
I never got rid of him but i was just wondering if he's D6 keeper material also so not really a silly question at all. Was thinking of getting Bartel this week so i'll then have 5 Premo's (Burgoyne, H.Shaw, Simpson, Johnson, Bartel) and Langdon starting. Seems like a sound stratagy after he's just scored 118 :)
 

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"Earth calling the great one"
This will probably be one of the more stupid questions you have ever had and I'm more sort of thinking out loud rather than seriously considering this.
But what would your thoughts be on trading Langdon back in ?
It goes against all the rules of Supercoach. I was one of the many who traded him out early and since he has put together some very solid scores.
He looks to have silky skills and have time up his sleeve, very smooth, a little Pendleslike. He's running around the backline picking up stats at will and then uses his stats well.
Do you think he could end up a D6 or a handy M9 with his DPP.
I know the boat has sailed so would probably be better off getting Hurn or Enright.
Interested in your thoughts on this, (Don't be to hard on me with this ridiculous situation)
Thanks in advance.
Well, if you're crazy, then I am too.
I am strongly considering it, and unless your trades are better used elsewhere next week, I can't see much down side to it!
After this round he will be about $377,200 B/E -18.
Collingwood have their easiest section of their draw coming up: WC, StK, Melb, WB.
It would seem at worst he becomes a stepping stone to a "better" D5/6, at best he becomes a solid D4. I honestly think it is just a case of, "oops, I made a mistake, but now I'm fixing it". Obviously, for those that traded him out, and have plans already for their trades this week, it is best not to alter those plans, but if you have a free trade, and can get him using one trade, why not?!
I don't think it's worth using 2 trades to get him in though!
 
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Well, if you're crazy, then I am too.
I am strongly considering it, and unless your trades are better used elsewhere next week, I can't see much down side to it!
After this round he will be about $377,200 B/E -18.
Collingwood have their easiest section of their draw coming up: WC, StK, Melb, WB.
It would seem at worst he becomes a stepping stone to a "better" D5/6, at best he becomes a solid D4. I honestly think it is just a case of, "oops, I made a mistake, but now I'm fixing it". Obviously, for those that traded him out, and have plans already for their trades this week, it is best not to alter those plans, but if you have a free trade, and can get him using one trade, why not?!
I don't think it's worth using 2 trades to get him in though!
Cheers Rowsus.
Now I'm getting a little worried, starting to strongly consider this move.
Would be an easy 1 trade situation.
Will finish with quote from Slade.
"muma muma muma we're all crazy now"
 
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Hi Rowsus

Cale Hooker. I brought him in and he has done a fabulous job. Nine rounds and six tons. However you thought he was just on a hot streak so now after the 44 I am at the cross roads. Time to move on or hold. After the byes Richmond (the clock is ticking on Hardwicke) GWS and Melbourne (not the easy beats everyone thought). Tempted to keep him. Thoughts?
 
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Hi Rowsus.

This is probably my biggest conundrum for the year. Given I might just get 18 players together this week Polec's whole score will probably count. I was always going to upgrade Tyson this week but now he looks like making another $40k to $50k. The extra money would purely be a bonus as I can still make my planned trades for this week and get Pendlebury and Selwood in. So my question is more about the value of points for the remainder of the year given that Tyson has the bye. I think I read somewhere that each trade is roughly worth 300 points (feel free to correct me on that). I was wondering if you had done any research on the dollar value of a point at various times of the year. Which is of greater value at this time of year, 97 points or $40,000?

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Hey Krieks,
keep in mind his round 12 game is against Carlton. His worst record is against Carlton, where his highest score in 6 games is 92, and he averages 58.67 against them.
If my memory serves me correctly, for some reason Jordan Russell seem to fix Stevie J up a few times when he played us so that is part of reason he has a poor record against us. For some reason Stevie J just brought the best games out of Russell but I see no reason why Stevie J would continue the poor record against us to that extent. J Russell not been at our club for two seasons now but it was a factor to keep in mind that no longer relevant.
 
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Rowsus,
Son of God is averaging 151 now.
*** ?

I wonder back to when his Dad wowed us in late 80's and early 90's what God would have averaged in some of his hot patches over two months like Son of God is having now.

God from memory had stints before he became a full forward where he was wing/half forward and even could kick bags of 8 or 9 goals from there. Crazy stuff. Simply amazing his son as a midfielder in Supercoach era is wowing us with 150+ scores like no other in this decade.

If CD existed a decade or two earlier I just wonder whether God would have averaged even more. Considering the regular bags of goals he could kick and contested marks do you reckon he may have even averaged over 150 SC points for a full season ?

I wonder whom the next player in the league will be that challenges these stratospheres of scoring that Son of God has risen too.
I find it hard to believe any midfielder can average more.

If for some reason the trend of low scoring we currently in got changed and two or three superstar key forwards burst on the scene in Lockett and Ablett like pattern maybe it is possible. Hard to see it happening though.
Only Jeremy Cameron or Jesse Hogan of youngsters in league make me think any superstar key forwards can show up in coming years.

Right now the pattern is key forwards are not big goal kickers. If a coach had an Ablett or Lockett type they may change the game plan for their team in front half. Presently though, just seems 18 players on field trained all summer to run up and down the ground so key forwards are a dying breed it seems. Might be partly due because there are few key forwards capable of kicking big bags of goals.
Travis Cloke clearly one of better key forwards but if he kicked 5 goals it would be seen as a big day out for him.
If Lockett kicked 5 goals it was normal.
Different eras and coaching styles but wonder what the SC scores might of been for guys like Lockett and GOD on their seasons they kicked well over 100 goals and took a zillion contested marks.
 
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