Discussion 2025: AFL SC - Rate My Team
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I would totally discount how the Tigers played, completely different to how they've been training, yes, the Eagles flooded back reducing options, but there was no run, carry or overlap running. They took 22 players, 9 of those were KPP's, Ralphsmith injured early didn't help. A starting mid lineup of Dow, Ross, Mansell, Lalor, Campbell and McIntosh would be lucky to be competitive in the magoos, they were up against seasoned bodies in Graham, Duggan, Hewett and Henderson.
Smillie will be ok for round 1, Lalor is a chance as well given it's a hairline fracture. They'll do alright with Taranto, Hopper and Prestia taking some of the heat.
I've had Lynch all preseason mainly because of the possibility of looping him in the bye rounds, dropped him for SPP. He'll certainly get double teamed which will open opportunities for the young KPF's
Smillie will be ok for round 1, Lalor is a chance as well given it's a hairline fracture. They'll do alright with Taranto, Hopper and Prestia taking some of the heat.
I've had Lynch all preseason mainly because of the possibility of looping him in the bye rounds, dropped him for SPP. He'll certainly get double teamed which will open opportunities for the young KPF's
I know that other coaches will be getting rookies off field but I don't have those rookies, so the opportunity of upgrading those M7-M8 players Cerra & Rowell to ubers (when and if those opportunities present) is much more manageable.
I think the bar for forwards will be around 90-95, all of Macrae, Smith and Daniel (Phillipou as well) could manage that, if they don't then they'll be very close.
I think the bar for forwards will be around 90-95, all of Macrae, Smith and Daniel (Phillipou as well) could manage that, if they don't then they'll be very close.
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Version 3 (and counting) of Post Nut Clarity!
Sheezel lock!
Holmes did enough yesterday to make his way into the side, even with the dreaded round three bye! Early days but it looks like he’s playing predominantly on ball.
Short made his way into the side because I’d selected 30/31 and had 465K to spend on a defender. I’m not sold on him but there’s no denying he’ll be seeing plenty of the ball down back and I dare say the young cubs will be looking for him!
Mills LOCK!
Rookies place holders although I’m becoming more and more uneasy by the quietness surrounding Travaglia…
Bont, Butters, Daicos & Clarry are all LOCKED!!! I just love the way they go about it and know I’d be wanting to get them in sooner rather than later!
Day has squeezed Serong out of my side. There’s no doubt in my mind that he can average well into the 110’s this season. My only concern is his durability but yesterday, he looked a class above for me!
Rookies are place holders however, I will be targeting as many 2-4th year players as I can purely because I think we’re overestimating what the first year guys will produce! Smith stays in because he’ll likely win the brownlow this season
I’ve had these three ruckmen pencilled in before Boyd was even part of the game! I’m just praying Pitto isn’t named round one because it’ll definitely be panic stations if he is!!!
Horne-Francis, Macrae, Smith, Daniel & even Hewett at this stage are locks!
Powell-Pepper was the 30th player selected in this side. I rate him higher than Lynch and this he’s got better on field scoring potential than a Davidson or Curtain but I’m not entirely sold on him either.
Would love any thoughts, any feedback welcome!
Sheezel lock!
Holmes did enough yesterday to make his way into the side, even with the dreaded round three bye! Early days but it looks like he’s playing predominantly on ball.
Short made his way into the side because I’d selected 30/31 and had 465K to spend on a defender. I’m not sold on him but there’s no denying he’ll be seeing plenty of the ball down back and I dare say the young cubs will be looking for him!
Mills LOCK!
Rookies place holders although I’m becoming more and more uneasy by the quietness surrounding Travaglia…
Bont, Butters, Daicos & Clarry are all LOCKED!!! I just love the way they go about it and know I’d be wanting to get them in sooner rather than later!
Day has squeezed Serong out of my side. There’s no doubt in my mind that he can average well into the 110’s this season. My only concern is his durability but yesterday, he looked a class above for me!
Rookies are place holders however, I will be targeting as many 2-4th year players as I can purely because I think we’re overestimating what the first year guys will produce! Smith stays in because he’ll likely win the brownlow this season
I’ve had these three ruckmen pencilled in before Boyd was even part of the game! I’m just praying Pitto isn’t named round one because it’ll definitely be panic stations if he is!!!
Horne-Francis, Macrae, Smith, Daniel & even Hewett at this stage are locks!
Powell-Pepper was the 30th player selected in this side. I rate him higher than Lynch and this he’s got better on field scoring potential than a Davidson or Curtain but I’m not entirely sold on him either.
Would love any thoughts, any feedback welcome!
Version 3 (and counting) of Post Nut Clarity!
Sheezel lock!
Holmes did enough yesterday to make his way into the side, even with the dreaded round three bye! Early days but it looks like he’s playing predominantly on ball.
Short made his way into the side because I’d selected 30/31 and had 465K to spend on a defender. I’m not sold on him but there’s no denying he’ll be seeing plenty of the ball down back and I dare say the young cubs will be looking for him!
Mills LOCK!
Rookies place holders although I’m becoming more and more uneasy by the quietness surrounding Travaglia…
Bont, Butters, Daicos & Clarry are all LOCKED!!! I just love the way they go about it and know I’d be wanting to get them in sooner rather than later!
Day has squeezed Serong out of my side. There’s no doubt in my mind that he can average well into the 110’s this season. My only concern is his durability but yesterday, he looked a class above for me!
Rookies are place holders however, I will be targeting as many 2-4th year players as I can purely because I think we’re overestimating what the first year guys will produce! Smith stays in because he’ll likely win the brownlow this season
I’ve had these three ruckmen pencilled in before Boyd was even part of the game! I’m just praying Pitto isn’t named round one because it’ll definitely be panic stations if he is!!!
Horne-Francis, Macrae, Smith, Daniel & even Hewett at this stage are locks!
Powell-Pepper was the 30th player selected in this side. I rate him higher than Lynch and this he’s got better on field scoring potential than a Davidson or Curtain but I’m not entirely sold on him either.
Would love any thoughts, any feedback welcome!
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Sheezel lock!
Holmes did enough yesterday to make his way into the side, even with the dreaded round three bye! Early days but it looks like he’s playing predominantly on ball.
Short made his way into the side because I’d selected 30/31 and had 465K to spend on a defender. I’m not sold on him but there’s no denying he’ll be seeing plenty of the ball down back and I dare say the young cubs will be looking for him!
Mills LOCK!
Rookies place holders although I’m becoming more and more uneasy by the quietness surrounding Travaglia…
Bont, Butters, Daicos & Clarry are all LOCKED!!! I just love the way they go about it and know I’d be wanting to get them in sooner rather than later!
Day has squeezed Serong out of my side. There’s no doubt in my mind that he can average well into the 110’s this season. My only concern is his durability but yesterday, he looked a class above for me!
Rookies are place holders however, I will be targeting as many 2-4th year players as I can purely because I think we’re overestimating what the first year guys will produce! Smith stays in because he’ll likely win the brownlow this season
I’ve had these three ruckmen pencilled in before Boyd was even part of the game! I’m just praying Pitto isn’t named round one because it’ll definitely be panic stations if he is!!!
Horne-Francis, Macrae, Smith, Daniel & even Hewett at this stage are locks!
Powell-Pepper was the 30th player selected in this side. I rate him higher than Lynch and this he’s got better on field scoring potential than a Davidson or Curtain but I’m not entirely sold on him either.
Would love any thoughts, any feedback welcome!
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I would suggest running Knevitt as the Flex at the moment. Out of curiosity what was the SC projected score?
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Thanks mate! I really rate Sheldrick who’s currently in my flex position but if he doesn’t look up to it on Friday’s game, I’ll definitely be swapping him with Knevitt!
1841 is my projected score!!!
Before Monday’s games I had:
Whitfield, Sinn & Serong
Instead of
Holmes, Short & Day
Those moves cost me about 90 (projected) points
1841 is my projected score!!!
Before Monday’s games I had:
Whitfield, Sinn & Serong
Instead of
Holmes, Short & Day
Those moves cost me about 90 (projected) points
Was playing around with this then actually kind of liked it.
Obviously a big watch on SDK - but he enables Baz to Rankine. I think Rankine could really start big.
If SDK doesn't get the primary ruck role though then Rankine goes back to Baz, SDK to Short.
Gawn to TDK lets me make Erasmus (screams sub risk) either Wayne Milera or Jacob Blight. Don't love losing Gawn, but might be needed if the backline rookies look dicey.
Obviously a big watch on SDK - but he enables Baz to Rankine. I think Rankine could really start big.
If SDK doesn't get the primary ruck role though then Rankine goes back to Baz, SDK to Short.
Gawn to TDK lets me make Erasmus (screams sub risk) either Wayne Milera or Jacob Blight. Don't love losing Gawn, but might be needed if the backline rookies look dicey.
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While starting only one premium in defense is risky, I believe there is too much value in the forward line to invest too heavily in defense. SDK's role looks interesting and only time will tell if he assumes the number 1 ruck spot. Jacob Blight appears to be a lock in lieu of Balta's absence. I expect Miller and Koschitzke will man-up on the talls which will leave Blight free to roam and intercept. I predict Cerra and Smith will feast on Richmond's midfield in round 1 and I don't want to miss out on them. I chose Nankervis as a POD as he is one of the few top-scoring ruck men from last year who's role isn't compromised by a young up-and-comer (his bye is also good as opposed to if I went with English). Let's all hope that Sanders isn't another victim of Bevo's lunacy and locks a spot in the midfield due to Treloar's injury.
Another team update and I'm going to go through my overall strategy and how that reflects on each line and pick.
1: No Lock-In Captain options.
The fact is that going by history, there are really only 2 options here; Bont and Gawn, neither of which appeal to me based on value and structure. There are other good C options from 2024 but 2024 isn't 2025; I also believe that we'll have to push for 25-26 'premiums' in our finished sides to be competitive which means picking off players with 110+ potential at mid $500k.
Line by Line:
Defenders:
Sheezel: Only player above $600k in my side. I could take or leave him but he's basically there because I feel there's no other options.
NWM & Clark. Pretty solid stalwarts. I think they're 100-105 players which I need to start because I do not trust defence this year.
Mills: Locked in. Trying to get 23 playing every week through the early byes so that means I can only pick one other defender from the Cats, Pies, Lions and Swans, who is
SDK: It's very risky. I don't think he lasts the full season as #1 ruck but even a few weeks is probably worth starting. Perhaps Conway's injury timeline will offer some additional sway one way or the other.
Short: I really am conflicted here. On the one hand, with the right role, gameplan and personal fitness he could be fine as a D4 placeholder up to the bye. He is a polarizing figure both on Supercoach forums and the Richmond board. If the Tigers are playing a short, chip kick style and someone other than Short seems to be the main beneficary, I'd be happy to swap them. I can see Short averaging anywhere from 80-110 so if he splits the difference and goes 95 to his bye that's probably enough to break even on the pick unless a lot of cheap defenders fire.
Players I considered:
Whitfield has the early bye and I don't think he goes 115+ for the first half of the season which would make him a decent pick.
McGovern could go 115+ with absolutely everything going his way but the probabilty is far too low to consider.
Sinclair pre-season injury so I'm off him.
Houston shares the Round 3 bye so no room there.
Nic Martin has lost the HBF role but could averaging a decent amount but with the early bye there's little point to gambling on such a risk.
Holmes does tempt me; with M DPP there's potentially a way to hide him on the mid bench in RD3; he'd probably have to replace SDK though.
Sicily has the early bye but could come in for Short. I think it's more likely than not he spends the majority of his time free in defence but there is some concern, especially early, that he could drift forward.
Dale has the terrible mid-season bye and also Bevo
McKercher probably isn't ready to get to that 100-105 level unless he has the perfect role.
Don't think Duggan's role will be good enough to hit that 95 level.
Roberts is interesting but I think I'd rather look for more value with the early bye. So much up in the air at Sydney.
Midfield:
Very happy to go value here.
Dawson: Personally very fond of Dawson as an option; was on Hayden Young as M1 before his injury caused him to miss the IAS game. Think Dawson does have the potential to go 110+ but unsure of whether there'll be enough points to go around to allow Dawson, Peatling and Rankine to fire all at the same time. Still, I do think Dawson and Rankine have the capacity for 150+ ceiling games so I'm happy to gamble. On the other hand, if I needed to generate cash, then Dawson would probably be the first to go because I'm perfectly fine with starting Peatling or even a rookie at M3.
Richards: Was on him before news of Treloar coming down with an injury. Most likely will be #2 mid at the Dogs and does have the ceiling. Tags could be a concern but reports are he's been training to deal with such attention. Think he's a very high upside pick.
Oliver: Really no discussion needed.
Peatling: Think he gets enough midfield time to hit that 95 average he'll need to make enough money to be worth starting. I could dissolve him if I needed cash to re-arrange my structure though.
Ruck:
Bryan I think gets the main ruck share for Essendon over Draper to start the season, and Flynn is just a nose ahead of BJW at the moment. I could also see myself going with 2 solid rucks over both of Flynn and Bryan. Problem is that English and TDK both have that dreadful Round 12 bye and they're the two I would pick together.
English has worked his way into the side at the expense of TDK. I think that the Blues would prefer TDK as their main ruck and in that role he has tremendous upside but so does English if he gets back to 2023 levels which is extremely unlikely but there is a good chance English can go 115+ as the Dogs don't really have someone who I think they'd want to put in for significant time in the ruck as backup. Sam Darcy might've been a worry without the forward woes but if English is rucking the majority of the time and mopping up behind the ball then he presents decent value. As for TDK, I could see him ruck sharing with Pitto early and then reverting to solo ruck; but I'll have a difficult decision to make if Pitto isn't in the side for Round 1.
Forwards:
Macrae, Smith and Daniel: Practically mainstays in everyone's sides. I'm not as bullish on Macrae as I think most people are, but I do think he's fine enough value to not fade.
Maric: Not sure why he missed the Tigers game. Still pencilled in but might force a team re-structure but I'm hopeful that Elijah Hewett would be able to slot into F6 if he isn't viable.
Other options:
Parker and Sanders have that RD 12 bye; Parker could be a good pick with the right role but uncertainty on if he gets that role. Worse, there's no way to slingshot him during the byes. Sanders is probably too early to pick, especially with Bevo. Hugo Garcia could be a Maric replacement, as could Jack Hutchinson.
Graham as a defensive mid could be POD alternative or even supplement to a Peatling type in the midfield or in the forward line. Defensive mid types can score decently if they get the role which is admittently up in the air but I think West Coast need that kind of player to complement our more attacking midfielders.
Baker probably gets a decent role but is also an excellent player to plug gaps so at $440k he is a bit pricy. Still, a good deal of upside but much like Short in defence, he could be anywhere from 85-105 IMO.
JHF I think is a very solid Power pick; I think the comparitive average between himself, Rozee and Butters is probably decently close; a couple of early fixtures he could run amok in sweetens the pot too. If I had to guess I think Rozee and JHF are 105-110 and Butters 115ish; and with the cash saving and F status I'm happy to start JHF.
Rankine does have some concerns over games missed, but he could easily go 110, even 115+ if reports are true that he'll be a 60%+ mid for the Crows. The man has the capacity to be an AFL superstar and I think that can translate to Supercoach.
Luke Jackson was in my side but I'm not sure if the 'best case scenario' I presented was both likely enough to happen and a sensible off-ramp was built in to the pick. Still, a consideration if he's solo rucking in Round 1, either as forward, ruck or flex; but I don't think he's a premium keeper. Still, if Reidy isn't in the side RD1 I could go for the gamble on Jackson.
Actually really enjoyed the read up and your rationale. The captaincy issue is really the only problem which you pointed out upfront. I have also landed on the belief that value is the right path to go down this year and have actually altered my team significantly in the last few days. I’ve gone no Bont for that reason plus the rd 12 bye but starting Gawn to hedge my bets a little with a C option (Milera instead of SDK could free up some cash)
Keen to start watching the preseason games!
Keen to start watching the preseason games!
Bit of feedback, although I'm definitely no expert at this gig.
McKercher's role I'm not confident with. Travaglia will need to be swapped out with the next best named defender Rd 1 as he probably won't play consistently. Gulden is bold; I took him last year and he burned me. Good luck and I hope it pays off as I like a brave pick. Daicos is overcoming a foot injury and should be ok to start. Your overall balance looks good although I'm looking to run one less defensive rookie on field.
McKercher's role I'm not confident with. Travaglia will need to be swapped out with the next best named defender Rd 1 as he probably won't play consistently. Gulden is bold; I took him last year and he burned me. Good luck and I hope it pays off as I like a brave pick. Daicos is overcoming a foot injury and should be ok to start. Your overall balance looks good although I'm looking to run one less defensive rookie on field.