2015: 'Value' Premium Midfielders

Which of these players will be in your 2015 team come lockout?


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#61
Sam McClure has told 3AW that "GWS did NOT do a medical on Ryan Griffen before he was traded to the club - now there's concerns on his back injury"
McClure also tweeted: "Huge concern about Ryan Griffen's back. GWS docs have contacted Bulldogs, seeking advice of how to manage it. Highlights rushed trade deal."
 
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From Supercoach Paige.
BREAKOUT CONTENDER | Clay Beams DOMINATED last week's intra-club match, winning best afield honours in a new role off half back. Pearce Hanley's three-month layoff due to a hip injury will see Beams play a rebounding role in 2015.*

At $286,100 Beams can be selected as a midfielder or forward. Will you take the punt?‪#‎supercoach‬.

Obviously not posting this to see people thoughts on Clay Beams but more so to see what we think this will mean for Mr Rich. IF beams does hold down the rebounding role it could mean rich is smack bang in the guts more than I first anticipated. I'm not one to go for discounted players in the midfield but will definitely be watching him now in the nab cup.
Would teams tag him over D. Beams or would beams play more fwd if rich is firing from the get go. Intriguing stuff.
 

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McClure also tweeted: "Huge concern about Ryan Griffen's back. GWS docs have contacted Bulldogs, seeking advice of how to manage it. Highlights rushed trade deal."
...and CD have him as the only elite for GWS, far from it!!!
 
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This from a Herald Sun article today

TOP TEN RUCK-ROVER COMBINATIONS IN 2014

Aaron Sandilands and Nathan Fyfe — 62 (total)
Sam Jacobs and Patrick Dangerfield — 52
Sam Jacobs and Scott Thompson — 50
Aaron Sandilands and David Mundy — 50
Todd Goldstein and Andrew Swallow — 49
Will Minson and Tom Liberatore — 42
Todd Goldstein and Ben Cunnington — 41
Mark Jamar and Nathan Jones — 40
Matthew Lobbe and Robbie Gray — 38
Matthew Lobbe and Travis Boak — 37

Andrew Swallow off 15 games coming back from injury. Hmmm.
 

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#67
That stat is very interesting.

Imagine how many Goldy/Swallow combinations we will see this year with a fully fit Swallow playing all 22 games..
 
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That stat is very interesting.

Imagine how many Goldy/Swallow combinations we will see this year with a fully fit Swallow playing all 22 games..
Jamar and Moloney were the no 1 combo few years back, didn't do much for the scoring thou.
 
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From Supercoach Paige.
BREAKOUT CONTENDER | Clay Beams DOMINATED last week's intra-club match, winning best afield honours in a new role off half back. Pearce Hanley's three-month layoff due to a hip injury will see Beams play a rebounding role in 2015.*

At $286,100 Beams can be selected as a midfielder or forward. Will you take the punt?‪#‎supercoach‬.

Obviously not posting this to see people thoughts on Clay Beams but more so to see what we think this will mean for Mr Rich. IF beams does hold down the rebounding role it could mean rich is smack bang in the guts more than I first anticipated. I'm not one to go for discounted players in the midfield but will definitely be watching him now in the nab cup.
Would teams tag him over D. Beams or would beams play more fwd if rich is firing from the get go. Intriguing stuff.
Anyone considering C Beams as a fwd line smoky? Horrible price...
 
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Anyone considering C Beams as a fwd line smoky? Horrible price...
I haven't really considered him, but the first thing I thought when I saw the reference above was that it would be dangerous to pick him based on 1 performance in an Intra Club match (I realize you probably wouldn't, but I don't think I would get too excited just yet - lol)
 

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Anyone buying the hype on Chris Judd? Will be 31 all of next year so the wrong side of 30, but his first full preseason in quite some time. Plenty to like about his history when priced at just over 90 coming into this year and has the right bye as well. Age the only real reason to think about not picking him over Griffen or Swallow? Could easily outscore both if he is truly fit and firing.

Year Games Average
2005 21 114.5
2006 19 131.8
2007 18 106.4
2008 21 110.0
2009 22 111.0
2010 19 118.5
2011 22 115.5
2012 17 104.4
2013 18 99.1
2014 12 90.6

Few important parts from a recent article;

Judd: “And then in January I had the Achilles op, so I thought ‘well that’s about it’, and then (in Round 5) I did the hammy.”

A fortnight ago, deep into preseason No.14, the blistering midfielder was voted by his peers as the club’s ‘trainer of the week’, with a bright orange hat to wear in reward.

As one Carlton assistant coach remarked last week on their Mt Buller camp, “I reckon ‘Juddy’ has got his bounce back”.

Judd agrees.

“I do feel like I’m moving a little bit quicker than I have in a couple of years,” he said

It has perhaps flown under the radar how much the Achilles trouble has weighed on Judd, physically and mentally, through 2012 — 2014.

When Malthouse first arrived at Visy Park two years ago, Judd says he was “worn-out with footy”.

The flame that helped make the five-time best and fairest one of the AFL’s most exhilarating players was almost extinguished.

But, as he enters 2015 fully-fit, the spark and the speed, are back.

“A week after the season (finished) I was back running again,” he said.

“Usually, I’m really sore for another month or so.

“So, not only had I avoided any more operations, but I was feeling really fresh.”

If you take out the round 5 score of 6 when he did his hammy then his average jumps to 98.3. Not too shabby, but is it unrealistic to think he could go 105 - 115?
 
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Year Games Average
2010 19 118.5
2011 22 115.5
2012 17 104.4
2013 18 99.1
2014 12 90.6

If you take out the round 5 score of 6 when he did his hammy then his average jumps to 98.3. Not too shabby, but is it unrealistic to think he could go 105 - 115?
Not unrealistic, but unlikely. He has been on the decline for 4 straight seasons now, and as you pointed out is on the wrong side of 30. I'd say the best we can hope for is a Nick Dal Santo kind of bounce back, and he could return to about 100-106.
 
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I've had danger in my team all along but pulled him out. I started working 'backwards' and done my final team full of premiums and now working back to see who I can fit in, bring in after byes etc..... With the plethora of top midfielders Im in two minds if danger makes the top 8......

My assessment of the top 8 midfielders in the comp are
1 Ablett
2 pendles
3 rocky
4 Fyfe
5 Selwood
6 Sloane
7 jpk
8 ward/beams/Sidebottom/danger/jack

these are the guys I want in the middle and danger is so price friendly

Dilemmas dilemnas......
 

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K Jack priced at 102 Is hard to ignore. Have him in at m5 at the moment. Anyone know what happened to him last year? Is he at full fitness now?
 
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1 Ablett
2 Rocky
3 Pendles

4 Beams
5 Fyfe
6 Libba
7 Selwood
8 Boak

9-11 Ward/Sidebootom/Jack/JPK

12-14 Danger/Treloar/Sloane
 

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K Jack priced at 102 Is hard to ignore. Have him in at m5 at the moment. Anyone know what happened to him last year? Is he at full fitness now?
From memory he had a lower back injury for the majority of last season. I remember he was on GameDay earlier in the year and said he'd " had a sore back for a while now". Unsure on how he's been going this pre-season??
 
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Has anyone gone 3 prem mids and the rest rookies? Frees up cash for backline or rucks and forwards for that matter.
 
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Has anyone gone 3 prem mids and the rest rookies? Frees up cash for backline or rucks and forwards for that matter.
Have come close to considering this a couple of times, but so far, the best I can live with is 4/0/7. Even with only 4 in the MID it means I can get at least 4 "premiums" in DEF.

At the end of the day, still gotta upgrade to 8 premium MIDs, and finding it hard to contemplate getting 5 in during the season.
 

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I'm definitely going 3 mid prems + NvB with the rest rookies. There are always high scoring mid rookies but rarely reliable def/fwd ones. With the extra midfield rookies we should be able to generate more cash so upgrades in the midfield will be fine I think. Not convinced with the fwd options in clark/hogan scoring well enough to be on field options and the lack of def rookies of course makes it better to try field all prems.

I have waters/bellchambers at D6/F6 thanks to Gaz/Pendles/Danger midfield, so very happy with that. Mids get tagged, they will fall. Selwood/Fyfe/JPK always have low points every season. Rocky will fall enough too I think.
 
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I'm definitely going 3 mid prems + NvB with the rest rookies. There are always high scoring mid rookies but rarely reliable def/fwd ones. With the extra midfield rookies we should be able to generate more cash so upgrades in the midfield will be fine I think. Not convinced with the fwd options in clark/hogan scoring well enough to be on field options and the lack of def rookies of course makes it better to try field all prems.

I have waters/bellchambers at D6/F6 thanks to Gaz/Pendles/Danger midfield, so very happy with that. Mids get tagged, they will fall. Selwood/Fyfe/JPK always have low points every season. Rocky will fall enough too I think.
Waters won't be ready for RD1, doesn't even have a return date. My guess would be he retires without playing a game this year.
 
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