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I see a lot of teams have Max/Mitch King sitting at R3 for captain loophole purposes. While they are probably the best option(s) for this role (lots of Sunday games early in the season), I wonder how many people will panic and trade them out for another option once they realize they're unable to VC Ablett round 1.
Thanks gents, some good points here.
I had a slightly more detailed look at him and note the following:
- He doesn't have a history of consistent slow starts, so that's a plus.
- He actually missed round one last year, and still averaged well, both early and overall - so some sort of interruption is not prohibitive for him. Also a plus.
- The injury at the start of last year was a calf, and he had another one week stint on the sidelines for a calf later in the year. That's a minus - calves can be problematic, especially as players age. Having two in one year isn't great, albeit he only missed one game for each.
I should have been clearer with my original question though - I was wondering whether anyone has an informed opinion on whether training on the bike is "near enough" to running until this time of year, or whether it should seriously hinder someone like McVeigh?
I had a slightly more detailed look at him and note the following:
- He doesn't have a history of consistent slow starts, so that's a plus.
- He actually missed round one last year, and still averaged well, both early and overall - so some sort of interruption is not prohibitive for him. Also a plus.
- The injury at the start of last year was a calf, and he had another one week stint on the sidelines for a calf later in the year. That's a minus - calves can be problematic, especially as players age. Having two in one year isn't great, albeit he only missed one game for each.
I should have been clearer with my original question though - I was wondering whether anyone has an informed opinion on whether training on the bike is "near enough" to running until this time of year, or whether it should seriously hinder someone like McVeigh?
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Totally agree with BigRuss here, if you miss 3 out of 5 months of pre-season in this day and age you are well behind the eight ball. I also noted he only 'started' running last week, so it will be a while till he gets up to normal loads. That said, he is a smart player and has a decade of pre seasons behind him. I'll definetly be keeping a NAB watch on him, but at this stage looks more attractive as an upgrade.
I think this (very rudimentary) graph demonstrates why it's worth taking the punt on a KK / Yeo / Laird type over a Simpson/Birchall
All four players finished 2015 with roughly the same average. You've got Birchall/Simpsons who are nearing or in advance of 30, and whose averages will likely continue to decline. And then you've got two young players who's averages are in an upward trajectory.
With the older players, you're paying for the security that they're unlikely to drop below 80 - 85. But for the same price, you can get a younger player who's likely to continue their improvement - and you can ride the trend to hopefully 95+
Obviously this is very broad strokes, and doesn't take into account positional or team factors. But at the end of the day, "the trend is your friend". Ride the player with the upward scope, rather than downward
All four players finished 2015 with roughly the same average. You've got Birchall/Simpsons who are nearing or in advance of 30, and whose averages will likely continue to decline. And then you've got two young players who's averages are in an upward trajectory.
With the older players, you're paying for the security that they're unlikely to drop below 80 - 85. But for the same price, you can get a younger player who's likely to continue their improvement - and you can ride the trend to hopefully 95+
Obviously this is very broad strokes, and doesn't take into account positional or team factors. But at the end of the day, "the trend is your friend". Ride the player with the upward scope, rather than downward
I think this (very rudimentary) graph demonstrates why it's worth taking the punt on a KK / Yeo / Laird type over a Simpson/Birchall
All four players finished 2015 with roughly the same average. You've got Birchall/Simpsons who are nearing or in advance of 30, and whose averages will likely continue to decline. And then you've got two young players who's averages are in an upward trajectory.
With the older players, you're paying for the security that they're unlikely to drop below 80 - 85. But for the same price, you can get a younger player who's likely to continue their improvement - and you can ride the trend to hopefully 95+
Obviously this is very broad strokes, and doesn't take into account positional or team factors. But at the end of the day, "the trend is your friend". Ride the player with the upward scope, rather than downward
All four players finished 2015 with roughly the same average. You've got Birchall/Simpsons who are nearing or in advance of 30, and whose averages will likely continue to decline. And then you've got two young players who's averages are in an upward trajectory.
With the older players, you're paying for the security that they're unlikely to drop below 80 - 85. But for the same price, you can get a younger player who's likely to continue their improvement - and you can ride the trend to hopefully 95+
Obviously this is very broad strokes, and doesn't take into account positional or team factors. But at the end of the day, "the trend is your friend". Ride the player with the upward scope, rather than downward
I'm a big advocate (sucker) for players who are upward trending but at the same time players like KK and Yeo for example benefited from opportunities they got last year which might not be the case this year, so their graph is potentially misleading. There would be a number of players i've fallen for who have appeared to be upward trending (at the higher end of their averages) to eventually either stagnating or even dropping off the following year. Not to say that players don't ever continue improving of course..
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Ok thought I was settled but have been playing around and have come up with this:
McVeigh, Simpson, Bartel, Hartley, Bonner, Collins, Hibberd, Rice
Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Selwood, Rocky, Libba, O'Kearney, Cuningham, Keays, Mathieson, Davis
Goldie, Martin, Wyatt
Martin, Barlow, Harvey, Franklin, Kommer, Petracca, Crocker, Brown
A couple of things with this:
Gone with 3-0-5 in the back 6 to get the extra mid in. If Selwood doesn't get up for round 1, he will most likely become Boyd, but I know in myself I won't not start with him if he is named round 1.
I only have $16k left over, so the rookies are almost rock bottom priced, but there has been a little bit of research go into these kids and at the very least they have been solid scorers in the jnr ranks.
McVeigh, Simpson, Bartel, Hartley, Bonner, Collins, Hibberd, Rice
Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Selwood, Rocky, Libba, O'Kearney, Cuningham, Keays, Mathieson, Davis
Goldie, Martin, Wyatt
Martin, Barlow, Harvey, Franklin, Kommer, Petracca, Crocker, Brown
A couple of things with this:
Gone with 3-0-5 in the back 6 to get the extra mid in. If Selwood doesn't get up for round 1, he will most likely become Boyd, but I know in myself I won't not start with him if he is named round 1.
I only have $16k left over, so the rookies are almost rock bottom priced, but there has been a little bit of research go into these kids and at the very least they have been solid scorers in the jnr ranks.
Love this and the only real consideration here for me is the sample size.
I'm a big advocate (sucker) for players who are upward trending but at the same time players like KK and Yeo for example benefited from opportunities they got last year which might not be the case this year, so their graph is potentially misleading. There would be a number of players i've fallen for who have appeared to be upward trending (at the higher end of their averages) to eventually either stagnating or even dropping off the following year. Not to say that players don't ever continue improving of course..
I'm a big advocate (sucker) for players who are upward trending but at the same time players like KK and Yeo for example benefited from opportunities they got last year which might not be the case this year, so their graph is potentially misleading. There would be a number of players i've fallen for who have appeared to be upward trending (at the higher end of their averages) to eventually either stagnating or even dropping off the following year. Not to say that players don't ever continue improving of course..
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My Team:
Defenders: B. Houli (92), D. Robertson (91), S. Docherty (95), J. Bartel (82), M. Broadbent (95), M. Brown (74), (B. Smedts (38), B. Whitecross (42))
Midfielders: P. Dangerfield (114), M. Priddis (116), S. Mitchell (108), M. Barlow (87), T. Liberatore (66), R. Crowley (38), J. Cunico (23), P. Ahern (23), (D. Cunningham (23), B. Keays (22), J. Dunkely (22))
Ruck: T. Goldstein (129), J. Ceglar (81), (M. Korcheck (19))
Forwards: D. Martin (86), L. Dahlhaus (102), J. Gungston (96), J. Simpkin (41), L. McCarthy (26), C. Petracca (23), (S. Kerridge (22), W. Buzza (22))
Notes about my Team:
*First Season that I've played SC in a long while (4+ years)
*My Team is not optimised for Byes at all, there is big gaps where I am least one player short every round after bringing in emergencies
*My Spend is $9,999,600 ($400 left over), I believe this money could be better spent, some suggestions would be great. I feel as if I've spent to big on defenders who don't return the same as midfielders would
*My Projected Round 1 Score is 1,817. Is this great? average? bad? I know scores of 2,000+ are (were?) considered to be good, so I'm not sure how far off I am.
Defenders: B. Houli (92), D. Robertson (91), S. Docherty (95), J. Bartel (82), M. Broadbent (95), M. Brown (74), (B. Smedts (38), B. Whitecross (42))
Midfielders: P. Dangerfield (114), M. Priddis (116), S. Mitchell (108), M. Barlow (87), T. Liberatore (66), R. Crowley (38), J. Cunico (23), P. Ahern (23), (D. Cunningham (23), B. Keays (22), J. Dunkely (22))
Ruck: T. Goldstein (129), J. Ceglar (81), (M. Korcheck (19))
Forwards: D. Martin (86), L. Dahlhaus (102), J. Gungston (96), J. Simpkin (41), L. McCarthy (26), C. Petracca (23), (S. Kerridge (22), W. Buzza (22))
Notes about my Team:
*First Season that I've played SC in a long while (4+ years)
*My Team is not optimised for Byes at all, there is big gaps where I am least one player short every round after bringing in emergencies
*My Spend is $9,999,600 ($400 left over), I believe this money could be better spent, some suggestions would be great. I feel as if I've spent to big on defenders who don't return the same as midfielders would
*My Projected Round 1 Score is 1,817. Is this great? average? bad? I know scores of 2,000+ are (were?) considered to be good, so I'm not sure how far off I am.
Fitness theory would concur with this idea, as per the training principle of specificity. To maximise chronic adaptations (training effects) for running, the athlete really needs to run. Cycling uses similar muscle groups but in a different way to running, so while there will be some gains, they are likely to be limited.
McVeigh therefore would need to get back running soon to best prepare himself - although in his favour is the fact that he has completed many pre-seasons so his base level of fitness would be quite high. I would say he might be one to keep on the watchlist at this stage, especially given the reduced rotations and no sub rule will make the game more aerobic in nature this season.
McVeigh therefore would need to get back running soon to best prepare himself - although in his favour is the fact that he has completed many pre-seasons so his base level of fitness would be quite high. I would say he might be one to keep on the watchlist at this stage, especially given the reduced rotations and no sub rule will make the game more aerobic in nature this season.
This is my team thus far. Most Rookies are place-holders but the structures should stay the same going forward. 418K in the bank.
To explain a few more of the 'unique' picks:
*McGovern - I believe he will be better than Yeo. Last year was his second year and still performed despite the dreaded 'second year blues'.
*Viney - Picked him over Wines, love the way he goes about it and love his tackling numbers. A touch riskier than Wines and less proven history but a POD if nothing else
*Blicavs - This is iffy. He is a gun, proved it last year but with the new rucks going down to Geelong, what will his role be next year. Will wait and see what happens in the NAB cup, but could easily be one of my best/worst picks for the year.
*Gunston - Soild last year, if he can keep his averages up around 95 will be a set and forget. No Roughead though will mean he might get the number one defender, but should be quick enough to keep them at bay.
*Harvey - Will need to play a lot of games if he is to break the games record, so should be on the park most weeks. His history tends to say that he will play and he does average well. It was either him or Buddy at this spot and could easily switch as the season starts proper.