Analysis SuperCoach Scoring Explained, Observations & Complaints On Scoring
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The reduction to 126 was because he lost a clearance after the game.
It still doesn't explain how 2 effective contested possessions (supposed to be 4.5 points each - because it was a high-scaling period of the game, let's say they round up to 5 each) and a tackle (3-4 points) = just 6 points at that stage of the game.
It still doesn't explain how 2 effective contested possessions (supposed to be 4.5 points each - because it was a high-scaling period of the game, let's say they round up to 5 each) and a tackle (3-4 points) = just 6 points at that stage of the game.
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No it doesn't, which makes me think that maybe the score had updated before you looked at the scores after the first possession?
Under normal circumstances, it would've been 3 for each of the contested possessions, 1 for the handball, 0 for the ineffective kick, and either 0 3 for the tackle (I'm not sure if counted as an effective tackle, because the handball went to a teammate). That adds up to either 7 or 10 points, which should've been about 10-13 at that point in the game.
My hunch is that the tackle didn't count, and the first possession had already registered, so he went from 124 to 130 for that last play.
Under normal circumstances, it would've been 3 for each of the contested possessions, 1 for the handball, 0 for the ineffective kick, and either 0 3 for the tackle (I'm not sure if counted as an effective tackle, because the handball went to a teammate). That adds up to either 7 or 10 points, which should've been about 10-13 at that point in the game.
My hunch is that the tackle didn't count, and the first possession had already registered, so he went from 124 to 130 for that last play.
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The tackle definitely contributed to his DT score, but that was also my similar thought: because the tackle occurred right before the siren went (and Fyfe was already on 130 at that point, his score didn't budge after) maybe it didn't get factored into his final score for some reason.
I noticed something similar the other week. Toby Greene took a contested mark in the goalsquare and kicked a goal right before the final siren went.... his score only went up 5 points. Now I know it was the final seconds of a dead rubber, but surely an act that would get you roughly 15 points in any other situation could've been worth more than 5? My theory was that the scores didn't refresh in time for the siren and therefore his goal points didn't get added.
I really think now that some acts that occur right before the final siren, before the scores update one final time, don't get counted for whatever reason. Because I know for a fact that Fyfe was on 130 before his final effective clearance kick and tackle (because I was actually celebrating that that could have put him over the 140 mark), yet his score didn't budge when the siren went and the pre-scaled scores were published.
I noticed something similar the other week. Toby Greene took a contested mark in the goalsquare and kicked a goal right before the final siren went.... his score only went up 5 points. Now I know it was the final seconds of a dead rubber, but surely an act that would get you roughly 15 points in any other situation could've been worth more than 5? My theory was that the scores didn't refresh in time for the siren and therefore his goal points didn't get added.
I really think now that some acts that occur right before the final siren, before the scores update one final time, don't get counted for whatever reason. Because I know for a fact that Fyfe was on 130 before his final effective clearance kick and tackle (because I was actually celebrating that that could have put him over the 140 mark), yet his score didn't budge when the siren went and the pre-scaled scores were published.
Not sure if this has been posted but VICE did a short video/documentary on champion data and all the work that goes on behind the scenes to produce stats and hence supercoach and fantasy scores
watch it below on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_mePwh_02M
Quite amazing how much they analyse it but i could also see how some bias could come into play also.
watch it below on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_mePwh_02M
Quite amazing how much they analyse it but i could also see how some bias could come into play also.
Just remembered a couple of years ago, I studied the live scoring like an absolute madman for a few weeks to work out as much of the scoring as I could. Below is what I found and I find it to be far more accurate than what is said on the SC site itself, which seems to give everything 'max' points (the score you'd get if the game is on the line in the dying stages). What I've got is what I believe is how 90% of the game would be scored.
Note it may have changed slightly though, as I did this in 2015.
Note it may have changed slightly though, as I did this in 2015.
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Hmm yeah i really don't know what was going on there. I'd probably have to watch the last minute live to given any informed interpretation. Stats that happen just before the siren certainly count, but maybe CD made the call that the game was over when he laid that final tackle, so he only got 1 point?
He was massive in the last quarter when they came over the top. Had a terrible DT:SC at 3/4 time. Can't remember exactly what but remember he was about equal with Butler for a lot of the third quarter, and he was in the mid-40s.
He had a lot of effective contested possessions and a goal in the last quarter and IMO was one of the main factors in them getting up.
He had a lot of effective contested possessions and a goal in the last quarter and IMO was one of the main factors in them getting up.
Clanger: An error made by a player resulting in a negative result for their side. Disposal clangers are any kick or handball that directly turns the ball over to the opposition. Frees and 50 metre penalties against, No Pressure Errors, Dropped Marks, Ball-Up Kick-Ins and Debits are included in clangers.
Dropped Mark: A marking opportunity that is dropped, resulting in a contest at ground level. Does not include marking contests with an opposition spoil.
Ball-Up Kick-In: When a player steps on or over the line of the goal square when kicking the ball-in after a behind. Counted as a clanger.
Can't find a definition for a debit.
Dropped Mark: A marking opportunity that is dropped, resulting in a contest at ground level. Does not include marking contests with an opposition spoil.
Ball-Up Kick-In: When a player steps on or over the line of the goal square when kicking the ball-in after a behind. Counted as a clanger.
Can't find a definition for a debit.
Not sure this is correct.
In close games you could always bank on scaling to the most influential players with the points coming off the players not involved. It was so predictable I'd even factor it into VC's final scoring before final scores if an early decision needed to be made.
In blowouts scaling went to the best players of the first halves.
In close games you could always bank on scaling to the most influential players with the points coming off the players not involved. It was so predictable I'd even factor it into VC's final scoring before final scores if an early decision needed to be made.
In blowouts scaling went to the best players of the first halves.