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I agree with this general principle. But am gonna play the exception card for this year as two guys in Setterfield and Drew will actually play midfield and look better than most mid rookie options. I think 3 on field could work but it’s still early days. Would need another solid one like Balta or Cavara to get up. Another factor is that all of these guys are mature aged.
Rozee is another forward rookie looking like a “possible” at this early stage.
 

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Rozee is another forward rookie looking like a “possible” at this early stage.
Rozee seems to be the traditional teenager fwd rookie type who probably doesn’t score well - and he’s 190k! Pass for me.
 
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I recall reading somewhere a comment about in the past the Tigers have not being overly worried about not being able to control the ruck as they tended to choke the opposition down around the ground and control the ball from there. If that is a fair assessment will the rule changes and possible faster movement of the ball out of the centre ruck area lead to a change of tactics. Nank is not overly tall as a ruckman so do they need someone that can compete as a high leaping ruck?
 
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Rozee seems to be the traditional teenager fwd rookie type who probably doesn’t score well - and he’s 190k! Pass for me.
DPP too though, could swap out nicely with Burgess (GC) in defence. Burgess in a $123k mature ager, not sure if he'll get a gig though, but if there’s a chance anywhere it’s probably at the Suns.
 

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I recall reading somewhere a comment about in the past the Tigers have not being overly worried about not being able to control the ruck as they tended to choke the opposition down around the ground and control the ball from there. If that is a fair assessment will the rule changes and possible faster movement of the ball out of the centre ruck area lead to a change of tactics. Nank is not overly tall as a ruckman so do they need someone that can compete as a high leaping ruck?
Definitely true. They can't get away with Grigg or Caddy in the ruck this year with the new ruck rules
 
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Just on the D/F I note from todays game that D Moore had 11 kicks, 7 HB and 5 marks. Do not know about the SC score. He isn't cheap and so won't make you much money but he probably has reasonable JS and if he can churn out a 70-80 each week he may fill a role.
 
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I’m thinking the FWD line is weakest for rookies with good scoring potential.

Any more than two on field could be dangerous.
I am having a little more trouble down back, Collins is expensive as is Rozee, Burgees & Logue I won't go near, Mckay may be a cheap option but score like the previous two I mentioned and i'm not sure Marty Hore has a role available in Melbourne's best 22 when all their players return? is there? Iv got Clarke, Harris & Duursma with a FLdonut at the moment.

Drew, Cavarro, McAdams, Setterfield, Parker, Balta, McCarthy & Moore (expensive) seem like better options to me thus far.

Agree it would be ideal to keep fwd and back rookies down to two on field. Who are you liking up back at the moment?
 

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I am having a little more trouble down back, Collins is expensive as is Rozee, Burgees & Logue I won't go near, Mckay may be a cheap option but score like the previous two I mentioned and i'm not sure Marty Hore has a role available in Melbourne's best 22 when all their players return? is there? Iv got Clarke, Harris & Duursma with a FLdonut at the moment.

Drew, Cavarro, McAdams, Setterfield, Parker, Balta, McCarthy & Moore (expensive) seem like better options to me thus far.

Agree it would be ideal to keep fwd and back rookies down to two on field. Who are you liking up back at the moment?
Harry Jones could be an option down back - I recall seeing positive comments on him in hawks scratch match and intraclub.

Watson from WCE had a big score but is fighting for spots down back. Hore was OK, took most of the kickouts but May, Lewis and Hibberd didn’t play. I didn’t think he had a good enough game to push ahead.

McKay could be better for scoring when he’s not playing as the main tall. Tarrant and Thompson to come back later to provide support. 60 odd from him is very good.

I’m running Collins, Clark (McKay, HJones)
 

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I am having a little more trouble down back, Collins is expensive as is Rozee, Burgees & Logue I won't go near, Mckay may be a cheap option but score like the previous two I mentioned and i'm not sure Marty Hore has a role available in Melbourne's best 22 when all their players return? is there? Iv got Clarke, Harris & Duursma with a FLdonut at the moment.

Drew, Cavarro, McAdams, Setterfield, Parker, Balta, McCarthy & Moore (expensive) seem like better options to me thus far.

Agree it would be ideal to keep fwd and back rookies down to two on field. Who are you liking up back at the moment?
Collins is a lock.

At the moment I also have Clark, Watson and H Jones. Hoping all get named round 1.

Hore, McKay, Burgess, Duursma, Quaynor and Logue look to be okay options, perhaps better for the bench most weeks though.
 

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Collins is a lock.

At the moment I also have Clark, Watson and H Jones. Hoping all get named round 1.

Hore, McKay, Burgess, Duursma, Quaynor and Logue look to be okay options, perhaps better for the bench most weeks though.
Scrimshaw the other who could be okay
 
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Did Butters look like a must have? because I could really use that money from say Butters>Hind to get from a 530kish Defender up to Laird which might be the safer play even though I believe he is overpriced.
 
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Post JLT 1, down back I ended up with something pretty similar to what's being discussed:
Collins, Clark (Jones, Watson) with McKay as standby should one of those not be named.

I've tended to be terrible at picking rookies in this game so have taken to following the advice/observations of a few members in particular who seem to have extraordinary skill at it.
 
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I am having a little more trouble down back, Collins is expensive as is Rozee, Burgees & Logue I won't go near, Mckay may be a cheap option but score like the previous two I mentioned and i'm not sure Marty Hore has a role available in Melbourne's best 22 when all their players return? is there? Iv got Clarke, Harris & Duursma with a FLdonut at the moment.

Drew, Cavarro, McAdams, Setterfield, Parker, Balta, McCarthy & Moore (expensive) seem like better options to me thus far.

Agree it would be ideal to keep fwd and back rookies down to two on field. Who are you liking up back at the moment?
Just curious if Harris is Jones (Haw) ?

Otherwise I have missed one.

Starting to look at McCarthy & Moore (Coll) myself to see if they are viable starters at F4 & F5.

Setterfield , Burgess , Parker seem likely at this stage , hoping Moore (Haw) & Petrucelle show a lot more I'm JLT2.

Not as bullish on the 4 rookie priced rookies from Port as most at this stage , not sure where they all fit in with Broadbent & Hartlett due back soon as well.
 
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Harry Jones could be an option down back - I recall seeing positive comments on him in hawks scratch match and intraclub.

Watson from WCE had a big score but is fighting for spots down back. Hore was OK, took most of the kickouts but May, Lewis and Hibberd didn’t play. I didn’t think he had a good enough game to push ahead.

McKay could be better for scoring when he’s not playing as the main tall. Tarrant and Thompson to come back later to provide support. 60 odd from him is very good.

I’m running Collins, Clark (McKay, HJones)
Anyone have an idea whether Scrimshaw is in the Hawks best 22 come round one? $149k and third season in and I’m assuming the Hawks picked him up for a reason.

Edit: Just saw Bombers post above me, he’s onto it ?
 
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Surprised that Walsh is picked in 60% of teams. The kid is going to be a star but I cant remember a high-priced midfield rookie being a must have. Brayshaw averaged over 80 in the JLT last year and there were similar levels of hype but he struggled, averaging 53 over the first 6 rounds. Similar with Davies-Uniake but to a lesser extent.

I would say that it is easier to start him and trade in a 130k rookie if Walsh doesnt perform but at the moment it looks like there are other midfield rookies that can cover Walsh (Constable, Butters, Hind, Bewley, Setterfield).
If the other mid rookies dont show up then Walsh is a no brainer but at the moment Im happy not starting him.
Would like to hear other peoples thoughts on this and happy to be proven wrong.
 
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Starting to look at McCarthy & Moore (Coll) myself to see if they are viable starters at F4 & F5.
I looked at McCarthy as well but then checked his stats: his best season is 17 games at 54.6.
His other season game counts are 1, 0, 3, 0, 3 and 2, never averaging more than 61.
I think he's a JLT trap that will either get injured (poor guy) or make about 30k and average worse than a rookie.
 
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Surprised that Walsh is picked in 60% of teams. The kid is going to be a star but I cant remember a high-priced midfield rookie being a must have. Brayshaw averaged over 80 in the JLT last year and there were similar levels of hype but he struggled, averaging 53 over the first 6 rounds. Similar with Davies-Uniake but to a lesser extent.

I would say that it is easier to start him and trade in a 130k rookie if Walsh doesnt perform but at the moment it looks like there are other midfield rookies that can cover Walsh (Constable, Butters, Hind, Bewley, Setterfield).
If the other mid rookies dont show up then Walsh is a no brainer but at the moment Im happy not starting him.
Would like to hear other peoples thoughts on this and happy to be proven wrong.
I think the fact that Walsh averaged 142 at the u18 championships demonstrates he might be a better pick to a lot of people (including myself) than Brayshaw. I also agree with your point that it's easier to start him than not.
 
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I looked at McCarthy as well but then checked his stats: his best season is 17 games at 54.6.
His other season game counts are 1, 0, 3, 0, 3 and 2, never averaging more than 61.
I think he's a JLT trap that will either get injured (poor guy) or make about 30k and average worse than a rookie.
Cheers for that , probably too expensive for what we need , might be a case of just picking any rookies selected Round 1 and hoping for the best.
 
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