Discussion Rookie Discussion

[pizza safety]

I think a Clark type is exactly what they need. Trying to get rebound out of key position players (even if they are a little undersized) like Kolodjashnij, Stewart and Henry isn't helping Geelong at all. I don't understand why they're using Blicavs as a key defender when that's the last thing they need.

Pretty much. I think Stewart gives them plenty of rebound but no pace out of the backline

 

[BlueNwhiteHoops]

was thinking can i get away with with starting 4 mid rookies this year thoughts .

You could, but it seems excessive by 1 to me. Seems like a few more rookie options in the mids right now.

 

[BlueNwhiteHoops]

I keep reading that Willem Drew and Duursma could be dropped as early as rounds 2-4 when senior players return for Port, seems a pretty consistent thought process occurring over on the Port BF board. Butters seems in no danger at all.

It's concerning because I don't want to be greedy and take Drew knowing he will likely score well only to have him dropped for say Wines.
I'd rather take a rookie with lower scoring potential like a Burgees with more time to earn, having 1 or 2 slow burners is better than having a non playing rookie.

Thoughts? Or are the Port fans being a little naïve about their position/rebuild this year and the coaches will indeed prioritise getting games into their star rookies?

 

[AngryAnt]

was thinking can i get away with with starting 4 mid rookies this year thoughts .

It's definitely doable but I also reckon that we have some decent back rookies this season that are being overlooked for multiple mid-pricers. Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma, maybe even Hore are on field startable imo. I reckon 3 on field backs and 3 on field mid rookies provides a good balance. In the forwards I can't see anyone other than Setterfield and Drew as on field startable and the bench options are pretty bare as well.

 

[AngryAnt]

I keep reading that Willem Drew and Duursma could be dropped as early as rounds 2-4 when senior players return for Port, seems a pretty consistent thought process occurring over on the Port BF board. Butters seems in no danger at all.

It's concerning because I don't want to be greedy and take Drew knowing he will likely score well only to have him dropped for say Wines.
I'd rather take a rookie with lower scoring potential like a Burgees with more time to earn, having 1 or 2 slow burners is better than having a non playing rookie.

Thoughts? Or are the Port fans being a little naïve about their position/rebuild this year and the coaches will indeed prioritise getting games into their star rookies?

I remember thinking the exact same thing (and also reading the Port boards on bigfooty) a couple of years ago re: Houston and I didn't select what turned out to be one of the best cash cows that season based on that. I think if they're selected it's their spot to lose, if they are dropped after a couple of rounds, then it's why we set aside correction trades.

Having said that, Port also screwed everyone over with Brett Eddy a couple years back.

 

[Hondo]

I keep reading that Willem Drew and Duursma could be dropped as early as rounds 2-4 when senior players return for Port, seems a pretty consistent thought process occurring over on the Port BF board. Butters seems in no danger at all.

It's concerning because I don't want to be greedy and take Drew knowing he will likely score well only to have him dropped for say Wines.
I'd rather take a rookie with lower scoring potential like a Burgees with more time to earn, having 1 or 2 slow burners is better than having a non playing rookie.

Thoughts? Or are the Port fans being a little naïve about their position/rebuild this year and the coaches will indeed prioritise getting games into their star rookies?

I think team boards are a trap in terms of good research. Like @Bomber18 said recently the supporters tend to overrate the existing 22 from last year and underrate the new players simply because there is no exposed form. The fact is outside West Coast every team needs improvement from last year not just rolling out the setup that got them 8th (or wherever).

Not rookie related but I remember the Freo board all over that $300K defender a lot of us picked (name escapes me). The adulation for him was so OTT but you read it and think they should know ... thing is often the commentary is around what they hope will happen.

I've said before if they are picked R1 that's a good sign as they have a spot to lose.

Also, this notion of a "best 22" is a myth IMO because very rarely to teams have zero injuries. You never know when Wines comes back that someone else is injured.

I just don't look at those team boards anymore because I think it just does your head in getting too many possibly biased opinions.

 

[BigRuss]

I think team boards are a trap in terms of good research. Like @Bomber18 said recently the supporters tend to overrate the existing 22 from last year and underrate the new players simply because there is no exposed form. The fact is outside West Coast every team needs improvement from last year not just rolling out the setup that got them 8th (or wherever).

Not rookie related but I remember the Freo board all over that $300K defender a lot of us picked (name escapes me). The adulation for him was so OTT but you read it and think they should know ... thing is often the commentary is around what they hope will happen.

I've said before if they are picked R1 that's a good sign as they have a spot to lose.

Also, this notion of a "best 22" is a myth IMO because very rarely to teams have zero injuries. You never know when Wines comes back that someone else is injured.

I just don't look at those team boards anymore because I think it just does your head in getting too many possibly biased opinions.

There's some good information on those boards but extracting it from inbetween the petty squabbles becomes more and more tedious each year, especially in the weeks preceding the season. The amount of people that make statements like they are gospel blows my mind.

This is generally the week, between JLT & round 1, that I make the trek through the quagmire and try not to get bogged down reading 40 pages of absolute nonsense In the hope of finding a relevant post.

 

[BlueNwhiteHoops]

There's some good information on those boards but extracting it from inbetween the petty squabbles becomes more and more tedious each year, especially in the weeks preceding the season. The amount of people that make statements like they are gospel blows my mind.

This is generally the week, between JLT & round 1, that I make the trek through the quagmire and try not to get bogged down reading 40 pages of absolute nonsense In the hope of finding a relevant post.

I wish you luck soldier, see you on the other side.

 

[bomberboy]

There's some good information on those boards but extracting it from inbetween the petty squabbles becomes more and more tedious each year, especially in the weeks preceding the season. The amount of people that make statements like they are gospel blows my mind.

This is generally the week, between JLT & round 1, that I make the trek through the quagmire and try not to get bogged down reading 40 pages of absolute nonsense In the hope of finding a relevant post.

More game than me. I stick to this forum and only venture to BF to read their (quite insane) rumours/scandals thread. Some great creative writers in it...

 

[Herbie66]

no Lomax ?

are Allen , Brown , Flegler , Hopoate , Hunt , Nikora , Ravawala , Tavita-Harris , Xerri all safe to pick

 

[Bomber18]

I think team boards are a trap in terms of good research. Like @Bomber18 said recently the supporters tend to overrate the existing 22 from last year and underrate the new players simply because there is no exposed form. The fact is outside West Coast every team needs improvement from last year not just rolling out the setup that got them 8th (or wherever).

Not rookie related but I remember the Freo board all over that $300K defender a lot of us picked (name escapes me). The adulation for him was so OTT but you read it and think they should know ... thing is often the commentary is around what they hope will happen.

I've said before if they are picked R1 that's a good sign as they have a spot to lose.

Also, this notion of a "best 22" is a myth IMO because very rarely to teams have zero injuries. You never know when Wines comes back that someone else is injured.

I just don't look at those team boards anymore because I think it just does your head in getting too many possibly biased opinions.

Yeah agree. I was guilty of this with Dea a few years back.

Another point is that injuries can occur to other players so that the new guys stay in. Happened to Papley and Otten IIRC.

There’s ultimately a lot of luck involved. Generally good to pick guys with good scoring potential as they’re probably more likely to put in better performances and hold down the spot.

I’m happy enough to back in Drew, Duursma and Clark at this stage as a result.

Petruccelle v Balta I’m a bit more unsure on. Balta, I think offers more with his relief rucking so I can see him staying in. Petruccelle offers pace but WRioli and Ryan do too.

Need more thought on BScott too.

 

[bomberboy]

no Lomax ?

are Allen , Brown , Flegler , Hopoate , Hunt , Nikora , Ravawala , Tavita-Harris , Xerri all safe to pick

Are these your PODs Herbie?

 

[Herbie66]

Are these your PODs Herbie?

Given all the uncertainty over all the other rookies , I thought I would try and throw these names out there , for some reason it won't allow me to pick them , surely they can create a fantasy game with interchangeable.

All are $168,100.00

They were the days when we could pick IFolau & KHunt.

 

[KLo30]

no Lomax ?

are Allen , Brown , Flegler , Hopoate , Hunt , Nikora , Ravawala , Tavita-Harris , Xerri all safe to pick

Scratch Hopoate and Xerri to start. Not sure on Tavita-Harris. TLT will reveal very shortly.

 

[Herbie66]

Scratch Hopoate and Xerri to start. Not sure on Tavita-Harris. TLT will reveal very shortly.

Keighran preferred to CHT ?

I might have to learn his name

 

[KLo30]

Keighran preferred to CHT ?

That's who I'm going with.........

 

[Herbie66]

That's who I'm going with.........

should be one or the other , both the same price

hopefully we get little green lights on our selected team so I know who is playing , otherwise will have to search the teams one by one.

 

[pizza safety]

Does Burgess have better job security than Petrucelle?

 

[pizza safety]

I think a Clark type is exactly what they need. Trying to get rebound out of key position players (even if they are a little undersized) like Kolodjashnij, Stewart and Henry isn't helping Geelong at all. I don't understand why they're using Blicavs as a key defender when that's the last thing they need.

I think you’re a bit harsh on Blicavs though, he’s turned into one the leagues best as a defender. You’d just think someone like Bews wouldn’t get a game with another lockdown defender playing back there because whilst he’s pretty good one on one he offers nothing else. Also should have mentioned that Stewart plays pretty loose as an interceptor and rebounding defender according to the prospectus but still excels at one on ones

 

[apolis]

Blicavs started playing full back because Taylor only managed 8 games and Henderson didn't play til round 18 through injury. He had a good enough year playing down there to win the B&F and Harry Taylor is nearly 33.