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Scrimshaw is by no means a must-have rookie even if named round 1. With Moore and Collins in defence I don’t think he is required so wouldn’t recommend altering some of your premium picks to get him in.
If you do see Scrimshaw as a must have then my pick would be Sloane to Steele if you don’t already have him.
If you do see Scrimshaw as a must have then my pick would be Sloane to Steele if you don’t already have him.
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Hurn, have him ahead of Whitfield for some upside. Whitfield could be impacted with Williams back, think he needs the half back roaming role for the high scores. Heeney over Kelly. Kelly is more likely to get mid time over other mid/fwds, just doesn't have the upside of the others it feels.
I also have changed the team to move scrimshaw on. had to downgrade cousins to gibbons to free up the funds.
I also have changed the team to move scrimshaw on. had to downgrade cousins to gibbons to free up the funds.
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Quite bullish about Duursma. Although he’s a few years behind Drew I actually think he has better JS than Drew and Rozee.
Rozee is going to play that high HFF role that Motlop, Westhoff, S.Gray and others play as well and even Boak, Watts, R.Gray at times so if he doesn’t perform just being a top 5 pick doesn’t mean he’s guaranteed a game.
I see Duursma more as a winger and others are skeptical that Hartlett or Broadbent could see him missing but personally I think he looks like a player who is ready to go and will be more so rolling out on a wing with not a heap of competition outside of Butters for a spot really. Obviously if he doesn’t play well he could be one of the first dropped but that’s the same with most rookies.
I’d see the JS as something like:
Butters - Medium
Duursma/Rozee - Medium but Slightly Less
Drew - Low (unless he plays really well).
Butters has elite skills which we are lacking but his body being so fragile and small is the biggest worry over his JS.
I’m not sure on Scrimshaw I don’t know enough about Hawthorn’s plans and whether there is a replacement for him?
Gut feel would be Scrimshaws JS is slightly better although not sure what to read into Clarko’s comments.
Rozee is going to play that high HFF role that Motlop, Westhoff, S.Gray and others play as well and even Boak, Watts, R.Gray at times so if he doesn’t perform just being a top 5 pick doesn’t mean he’s guaranteed a game.
I see Duursma more as a winger and others are skeptical that Hartlett or Broadbent could see him missing but personally I think he looks like a player who is ready to go and will be more so rolling out on a wing with not a heap of competition outside of Butters for a spot really. Obviously if he doesn’t play well he could be one of the first dropped but that’s the same with most rookies.
I’d see the JS as something like:
Butters - Medium
Duursma/Rozee - Medium but Slightly Less
Drew - Low (unless he plays really well).
Butters has elite skills which we are lacking but his body being so fragile and small is the biggest worry over his JS.
I’m not sure on Scrimshaw I don’t know enough about Hawthorn’s plans and whether there is a replacement for him?
Gut feel would be Scrimshaws JS is slightly better although not sure what to read into Clarko’s comments.
Can't help seeing a lot of X v Y comparisons based on last years stats / rules ....
Got no idea what impact any of them are going to have on all lines TBH so am more focused on JS and avoiding injury prone players where possible this year.
IMO the JLT didn't really reveal much at all .... more interested in the available rookies as that will decide the rest of my team.
- No real ruck contests to get a real gauge ... most of the key rucks just got time in their legs IMO ..
- No real H2H midfield match ups without their primary rucks.
- Got no idea DEF/FWD wise ... lots of experimentation, players playing for a round 1 gig, a handful of possible role changes etc
- Don't think most teams have settled on their 6-6-6 plans yet ...
- Finding enough "quality" rookies this year is difficult ... see so many teams banking on PTA, GEE, HAW, GCS types ... three of those teams run pretty deep list wise ...
Also see quite a few RMT loaded with the above rookies .... might be an interesting week ahead ... are you picking rookies because the are purely named or looking at the bigger picture. Ie role within a team ... don't see many with what I'd call a bonifide team role ...
To extrapolate on the rookies from the stronger teams:
- GEE: run so deep ... Jordan looks like he has a role. The rest to me are development players .. a game here or there but a run of 6 straight games I find doubtful.
- PTA: Hard to get a read on this ... club hasn't conceded yet that they are in a rebuild ... one bad game and plenty of experienced players waiting in the wings to come in. I'm not avoiding any yet but want to make sure I have a bench player back up for each of them.
- HAW: Cousins looks like he has a role. Not sure about Scrimshaw.
Got no idea what impact any of them are going to have on all lines TBH so am more focused on JS and avoiding injury prone players where possible this year.
IMO the JLT didn't really reveal much at all .... more interested in the available rookies as that will decide the rest of my team.
- No real ruck contests to get a real gauge ... most of the key rucks just got time in their legs IMO ..
- No real H2H midfield match ups without their primary rucks.
- Got no idea DEF/FWD wise ... lots of experimentation, players playing for a round 1 gig, a handful of possible role changes etc
- Don't think most teams have settled on their 6-6-6 plans yet ...
- Finding enough "quality" rookies this year is difficult ... see so many teams banking on PTA, GEE, HAW, GCS types ... three of those teams run pretty deep list wise ...
Also see quite a few RMT loaded with the above rookies .... might be an interesting week ahead ... are you picking rookies because the are purely named or looking at the bigger picture. Ie role within a team ... don't see many with what I'd call a bonifide team role ...
To extrapolate on the rookies from the stronger teams:
- GEE: run so deep ... Jordan looks like he has a role. The rest to me are development players .. a game here or there but a run of 6 straight games I find doubtful.
- PTA: Hard to get a read on this ... club hasn't conceded yet that they are in a rebuild ... one bad game and plenty of experienced players waiting in the wings to come in. I'm not avoiding any yet but want to make sure I have a bench player back up for each of them.
- HAW: Cousins looks like he has a role. Not sure about Scrimshaw.
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I don’t have Moore and already have a few value picks. I don’t see Collins or Moore as must haves however I acknowledge that I would need one of them if I don’t pick Scrimshaw.
Heeney and Whitfield are the only two who are (barely) expendable for my starting team. I plan on owning both at some stage however.
Just name Scrimshaw please Clarko.
Heeney and Whitfield are the only two who are (barely) expendable for my starting team. I plan on owning both at some stage however.
Just name Scrimshaw please Clarko.
I’d rather Hurn/Crisp.
Just something about the Doggies players rotation system that makes me uneasy. Morris is out now as well so there’ll need to be some reshuffle to the structure in JLT2. Naughton back to defence? Trengrove back and English full time ruck? Both routes create an opening up in the fwd line.
McLean is 180cm and Dunkley is 190cm. Just based on that, Dunkley seems to be the better forward target due to height and McLean would provide more to the team as an inside mid rather than a small fwd. If Mclean as a fwd isn’t working, seems like an easy switch during the season.
Dunkley is a wait and see for me.
Just something about the Doggies players rotation system that makes me uneasy. Morris is out now as well so there’ll need to be some reshuffle to the structure in JLT2. Naughton back to defence? Trengrove back and English full time ruck? Both routes create an opening up in the fwd line.
McLean is 180cm and Dunkley is 190cm. Just based on that, Dunkley seems to be the better forward target due to height and McLean would provide more to the team as an inside mid rather than a small fwd. If Mclean as a fwd isn’t working, seems like an easy switch during the season.
Dunkley is a wait and see for me.
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thanks so much i appreciate your advice. hind vs constable is a money thing but the ultimate decision is on smith and crouch vs fyfe and moore. i am thinking
you're spot on hind and constable have no relevance but i need a bit more spare change. thanks for your advice. i agree your comments. i think smith can avg 10 ppg more than moore but fyfe could explode with the new rules.
you're spot on hind and constable have no relevance but i need a bit more spare change. thanks for your advice. i agree your comments. i think smith can avg 10 ppg more than moore but fyfe could explode with the new rules.
You don’t want to get caught out in R3 feeling like you need one or both and have to beak your team.
They remind me of Marchbank and WHE 2 years ago.
I know you feel set on your premiums but are feeling so set that you are convincing yourself that you don’t need Collins and/or Moore? Or even Ridley over either.
It can be easier to just commit to the price point on one of them to start because it’s way easier to correct one of those 3 in.
They remind me of Marchbank and WHE 2 years ago.
I know you feel set on your premiums but are feeling so set that you are convincing yourself that you don’t need Collins and/or Moore? Or even Ridley over either.
It can be easier to just commit to the price point on one of them to start because it’s way easier to correct one of those 3 in.
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I see what you’re saying but I think it comes down to whether we think Collins and/or Moore are must-haves.
As key defenders with no scoring history behind them I don’t think either are a necessity. There will likely be games where they score 100 SC but I think there will be other games where they score 50 SC. I actually think more often than not they will score closer to 50 than 100. An average of around 70 SC is where I see both.
If I was needing to field one of the lesser rookies such as Burgess or Parker then I would ensure that I pick one of Collins/Moore but as it stands that isn’t the case.
As key defenders with no scoring history behind them I don’t think either are a necessity. There will likely be games where they score 100 SC but I think there will be other games where they score 50 SC. I actually think more often than not they will score closer to 50 than 100. An average of around 70 SC is where I see both.
If I was needing to field one of the lesser rookies such as Burgess or Parker then I would ensure that I pick one of Collins/Moore but as it stands that isn’t the case.