Strategy Round 2: Trades

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It's looking like anything outside of 2-2-4 defense is going to be problematic imo. Might be knee jerkish but if you're starting 3 or more rookies down back, it could get difficult to fix real quick.


I don't disagree but there's always the exception to the rule. Kreuzer to Grundy after rd 1 last year was season defining for a lot of teams...and for those that held Kreuzer because they had cover in English, it had the opposite effect.

I'm just playing the devil's advocate here but what i'm saying it, don't be afraid to break the 'rules' because it can work out for you.
I got lucky: Scrimshaw, Clarke, Hore, Duursma, McKay...happy with those 5. (D1-3, Lloyd, WhitF, Moore) I wouldn't rule out Collins to any of those players post rnd 2 provided they don't stink it up...
 

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B. Crouch > Butters
Collins > Salem/Newman

Or

B. crouch > Gibbons
Collins > Whitfield

Purely for structural change because I want one of Scott/Constable on field instead of Duursma/Scrimshaw.

The reason I'm tempted to do it this week is because there might be other issues next week eg. I don't have M.Parker

Thoughts? Any advice much appreciated
I’m considering very similar trades but replace Gibbons/Butters with B.Scott.

INs I’m considering are HAndrews or Worpel.

I’ll look to make these trades next week though after one more week of data.
 
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Interesting to see all the discussion about Rocky after one big game. I picked him purely out of FOMO for what he could deliver in R2 and R3 against the Blues and Lions (and because I’m a rocky tragic).

I think with his injury history he is more in that start or forget basket. Can understand the FOMO re missing out on a big score in R2 and R3, but if you didn’t start him in the preseason after a 170, surely you had reasons for it.
Sweet Rocky, what a fantasy pig he has been. Can't tell you how much it pains me to see him out of my side. Remember starting him back in 2012 when he first let me down. Came good for a few seasons after that. Good old Rocky Road. You just never know whether you're going to get the velvety chocolate of scoring or the bumpy marshmallow of injury.
 
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Rance to someone with two good knees, closely considering Witherden, May, Z Jones and Herbies mate Kennedy.

Don't have cash to aim at higher priced players.
Rance to Witherden

Just saw I voted that I was starting with Witherden on the defenders poll before changing to Rance so back to my original plan.
 
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Why are people talking about getting rid of B Crouch already?

First AFL game in 18 months and he got 28 disposals, 2 goals and 109 DT in a side that lost by 5 goals.

How much more were you expecting?
For those of us considering it it isn’t really about his output but the output of Rockliff and scoring history against Carlton. Now or never to get Rockliff in and personally have no other avenue outside of Crouch (Cripps, Fyfe, Cogs, M.Crouch, Steele my other mids)
 
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Collins will probably miss this week and then I'll probably want to trade him to one of Wilkie, Joyce or McKay the week after. I'm a bit worried about him losing some money when his role combines with him returning from concussion and I reckon one of these three won't seem too bad. I could hold him, but one of those three could look okay for an eventual 120-150k price rise + the money I'll make from the original trade.

I originally thought McKay had bad job security with Thompson returning, but Vickers-Willis's injury has probably meant he's got decent security now. I thought Joyce had job security but would score poorly and didn't think Wilkie had job security or would score well, thus why I picked Collins.

Hopefully he can get up for this week to make the situation clearer.
 
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I’m considering very similar trades but replace Gibbons/Butters with B.Scott.

INs I’m considering are HAndrews or Worpel.

I’ll look to make these trades next week though after one more week of data.
@Bomber18 - are you not concerned something else will pop up next week and mean you cant make the structural change at all? Trading this week carries risk no doubt, but so does waiting (probably slightly less risk) - buuuut a correct trade this week offers way more upside.

Ive got Libba and Ridley.

A trade this week to Duursma (hats off port rookies who on one week data - yes yes 1 week - are likely to outperform what i was thinking) and Rocky, makes plenty of sense in my view. Gives me the option next week to then completely pick off rookies I want/need.

Alternatively, I wait and in all likelihood get to choose between rookies or Rocky. Imagine Schultz hits a ton v GCS and Joyce gets a 90. Im gonna need both of them.

In regards to why Rocky? I get the qn in the sense "is he top 8 mid" (you'd think not) but there are about 6 players in the whole comp (and none under 550k) who can conceivably av 130 for 5 weeks. That first week says he is fit (8 tackles) and the port game plan (yep no wines) can accommodate his style. You would think Ken aint gonna change much this next week or two....plus he has history v the blues.

To me the trade looks like a near no-brainer.

That said I have what I think is an easy out (libba in SC). In RDT (arguably his better format) my mids are Macrae, Cogs, Brayshaw, Treloar, BCrouch and Tarranto. Getting him there is a whole different story...and arguably far less of a 'good idea'. Im sure others have this issue in SC and that aint no easy fix.

If I was hoping Libba was a stepping stone, then I see Rocky as a launching pad. There isn't another player anywhere near his price who might get me to Nathan "No JLT" Fyfe quicker in the comp...
 
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@Bomber18 - are you not concerned something else will pop up next week and mean you cant make the structural change at all? Trading this week carries risk no doubt, but so does waiting (probably slightly less risk) - buuuut a correct trade this week offers way more upside.

Ive got Libba and Ridley.

A trade this week to Duursma (hats off port rookies who on one week data - yes yes 1 week - are likely to outperform what i was thinking) and Rocky, makes plenty of sense in my view. Gives me the option next week to then completely pick off rookies I want/need.

Alternatively, I wait and in all likelihood get to choose between rookies or Rocky. Imagine Schultz hits a ton v GCS and Joyce gets a 90. Im gonna need both of them.

In regards to why Rocky? I get the qn in the sense "is he top 8 mid" (you'd think not) but there are about 6 players in the whole comp (and none under 550k) who can conceivably av 130 for 5 weeks. That first week says he is fit (8 tackles) and the port game plan (yep no wines) can accommodate his style. You would think Ken aint gonna change much this next week or two....plus he has history v the blues.

To me the trade looks like a near no-brainer.

That said I have what I think is an easy out (libba in SC). In RDT (arguably his better format) my mids are Macrae, Cogs, Brayshaw, Treloar, BCrouch and Tarranto. Getting him there is a whole different story...and arguably far less of a 'good idea'. Im sure others have this issue in SC and that aint no easy fix.

If I was hoping Libba was a stepping stone, then I see Rocky as a launching pad. There isn't another player anywhere near his price who might get me to Nathan "No JLT" Fyfe quicker in the comp...
Just from an internal point of view think even though they played well Duursma and Drew are the two who if either has a bad week this week will be dropped for Wines.

DBJ and Bonner would be the most likely out for Hartlett based on their role and performance in round 1.

The talk does seem to be Duursma or Drew for Wines but I’d love personally as a Port supporter and SuperCoach participant for it to be Amon who goes.

Just pray that Drew and Duursma both play this week and there’ll be no issues though imo.



I have heavily been looking at Rockliff this week and also a Wilkie/Joyce for Collins. I’ve also got Balta but besides that have all the top performing rookies.

In a midfield of Cripps, Fyfe, Cogs, M.Crouch, Steele, B.Crouch, Walsh and Constable/Butters/Scott/Gibbons would you look to move B.Crouch to Rockliff this week or wait?

His history against Carlton scares me that I’ll have missed the boat if he scores well this week even though he’d make me considerable cash but if I did do a Collins to Wilkie/Joyce or Balta to Schultz I could still do either of those next week if I have to along with a Crouch to Rockliff trade if Crouch doesn’t perform and Rockliff does.
 
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Why are people talking about getting rid of B Crouch already?

First AFL game in 18 months and he got 28 disposals, 2 goals and 109 DT in a side that lost by 5 goals.

How much more were you expecting?
It's purely structural for me. I have no other mids that I can trade out, and it allows me to strengthen DEF.

The on-field X v. Y is Crouch & Scrimshaw V. Andrews/Newman/Salem & B.Scott.

It might cost me 20 points this week but that's not enough to warrant pulling the trigger this early so I'll sit tight and reassess next week.
 

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Just from an internal point of view think even though they played well Duursma and Drew are the two who if either has a bad week this week will be dropped for Wines.

DBJ and Bonner would be the most likely out for Hartlett based on their role and performance in round 1.

The talk does seem to be Duursma or Drew for Wines but I’d love personally as a Port supporter and SuperCoach participant for it to be Amon who goes.

Just pray that Drew and Duursma both play this week and there’ll be no issues though imo.



I have heavily been looking at Rockliff this week and also a Wilkie/Joyce for Collins. I’ve also got Balta but besides that have all the top performing rookies.

In a midfield of Cripps, Fyfe, Cogs, M.Crouch, Steele, B.Crouch, Walsh and Constable/Butters/Scott/Gibbons would you look to move B.Crouch to Rockliff this week or wait?

His history against Carlton scares me that I’ll have missed the boat if he scores well this week even though he’d make me considerable cash but if I did do a Collins to Wilkie/Joyce or Balta to Schultz I could still do either of those next week if I have to along with a Crouch to Rockliff trade if Crouch doesn’t perform and Rockliff does.
Yeah i don't think Id do Brad Crouch for him. Very good chance that they av the same over the year imo. Have Brad myself as well
 
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Yeah i don't think Id do Brad Crouch for him. Very good chance that they av the same over the year imo. Have Brad myself as well
Good point and could be a round 2 trade anyway considering their price points conversely to Libba who would need cash to get up to Rockliff (possibly via another trade).

Possibly just a Collins (if out) to Wilkie/Joyce for me then this week.
 
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Thinking of keeping Collins now. Hopefully that knock to the head switches him on.

Look like giving Parker a miss unless he goes strongly again & Gibbons doesn't show much again.
 
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Thinking of keeping Collins now. Hopefully that knock to the head switches him on.

Look like giving Parker a miss unless he goes strongly again & Gibbons doesn't show much again.
Hold Collins til next week, Joyce could be a decent trade if he backs up last week, Freako just pointed out that he’s 2nd for intercept possessions after Roubd 1
 
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Balta to Burgess (DPP with Moore)
Balta to Schultz
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Balta to no one and trade him out another week?
 
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If they are your only options and you have no other linked trades, then I wouldn't do either of them this week.
Only other things I’m considering are Collins to Wilkie/Joyce

Feel like I’ll do one of the above this week and then 2 next week (one of these and possibly Darling or B.Crouch out).
 
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I think Balta just has to go this week. You don't want to wait to get rid of him. Never know when you'll need to use those 2 weekly trades. I doubt Balta will be a good enough scorer to justify keeping him. He duped us all in the pre-season.

The only issue is that there aren't really any options. Burgess is a shocking scorer but has good JS. Petruccelle looks a decent scorer but I doubt he'll last much longer in the WCE team - they have a few to come back. Schultz got on the end of a few in R1 but I doubt his JS is good and his scoring output doesn't seem great either... but you can make a quick 6k off him at least.

Think I might just go Burgess. Even if he's only going to score 40-50 each week at least he'll be playing, and he provides a DPP link with Moore which might come in handy. Who knows, maybe he'll produce a 4 goal, 80 point game somewhere along the way.
 
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