Strategy Round 15: Trades

[lakb24]

Need some advice here! So I have 9 trades left and 60

I can do
Corbett > Naish
Hore > Hurn

7 trades and $0 with a full team (but would like to move Goldy to Gawn & Smith to someone)

Or I am considering

Corbett > Naish
Smith > Logue

7 trades and $400k

Then can follow it up with Hore to Hurn the week after but would have to wait a week or so to upgrade the final DEF position

Im playing for overall Im ranked around 500 mark
any advice much appreciated thanks!

 

[Darkie]

Need some advice here! So I have 9 trades left and 60

I can do
Corbett > Naish
Hore > Hurn

7 trades and $0 with a full team (but would like to move Goldy to Gawn & Smith to someone)

Or I am considering

Corbett > Naish
Smith > Logue

7 trades and $400k

Then can follow it up with Hore to Hurn the week after but would have to wait a week or so to upgrade the final DEF position

Im playing for overall Im ranked around 500 mark
any advice much appreciated thanks!

Worth considering the second option and playing Logue until you can get Whitfield. See Rowsus’ recent posts re Hurn - he scores much worse in big wins, and I gather they have a fairly easy draw coming up (worth checking).

Whitfield could also be a decent POD for you if you’re looking to run others down, assuming he comes back firing fairly soon.

If you can only get one def rookie this week I would strongly prefer Logue.

 

[Eagling]

How would you rank these 5? Price is not a big factor although having the extra coin may come in handy when an injury inevitably pops up.

Sloane 511k (GEE, PTA, GCS, ESS, CAR, STK, WCE, COL, WBD)

Zorko 516k (MEL, GWS, PTA, NTH, HAW, WBD, GCS, GEE, RIC)

Mouch 484k (GEE, PTA, GCS, ESS, CAR, STK, WCE, COL, WBD)

JPK 522k (GCS, ESS, CAR, FRE, GEE, GWS, PTA, MEL, STK)

Ross 461k (RIC, NTH, GEE, WBD, MEL. ADE, FRE, CAR, SYD)

Or anyone else below $522k?

I'm going to remove Zorko because I'm his #1 fan so I can't give an objective answer.

I'd go in order, Sloane, Treloar, Mouch, JPK, Ross for the rest.

 

[Professor]

Brodie Smith and Jordan Clark to Seagull in Lloyd and Hind.

 

[Eagling]

Brodie Smith and Jordan Clark to Seagull in Lloyd and Hind.

Superb trading choices, IMO.

 

[Professor]

Superb trading choices, IMO.

Thanks, need to top up my defence with some top liners, Hurn in 2 weeks, then Whitfield. ?

 

[IDIG]

I'm going to remove Zorko because I'm his #1 fan so I can't give an objective answer.

I'd go in order, Sloane, Treloar, Mouch, JPK, Ross for the rest.

Thx mate. So the order I had then listed in with the exception of Zorko, which was probably my order of preference anyway lol

 

[Bomber18]

How would you rank these 5? Price is not a big factor although having the extra coin may come in handy when an injury inevitably pops up.

Sloane 511k (GEE, PTA, GCS, ESS, CAR, STK, WCE, COL, WBD)

Zorko 516k (MEL, GWS, PTA, NTH, HAW, WBD, GCS, GEE, RIC)

Mouch 484k (GEE, PTA, GCS, ESS, CAR, STK, WCE, COL, WBD)

JPK 522k (GCS, ESS, CAR, FRE, GEE, GWS, PTA, MEL, STK)

Ross 461k (RIC, NTH, GEE, WBD, MEL. ADE, FRE, CAR, SYD)

Or anyone else below $522k excl Treloar?

F Hannebery 326k then the rest

 

[IDIG]

F Hannebery 326k then the rest

Oh don’t worry, I did look at him!

 

[Eagling]

Who is going to be brave enough to trade Gawn to ROB/Goldy/Nic Nat?

 

[Quarterback]

Bench and play Logue.

Wait til 1 min before the bounce & if he is starting fwd just loop or bench him.
If named in defence must start.
I think clarko won’t be using the same tactic again.

 

[Lynchmond]

Who is going to be brave enough to trade Gawn to ROB/Goldy/Nic Nat?

What is the merit in that?

 

[Eagling]

What is the merit in that?

Other people around here are a lot better at the cost/benefit analysis of SC.

The general idea is to sell Gawn at his high point before he depreciates, getting maximum value out of him.

The arguments for:

Gawn is about to play Brisbane, who seem to hold him pretty well. Additionally, ROB is about to play Geelong, and Lycett smashed a 180 against the Cats. ROB has a negative B/E and just scored around 180 himself. If ROB scores okay against Geelong and Gawn is held to a below 100 score against Brisbane, there could be 4-500k value in a Gawn to ROB trade (about 300k this week), plus the money ROB makes and the money Gawn loses, should you wish to trade him back in.

The arguments against:

Fewer trades to bring players in and out.

Gawn has been the #1 ruck so far this season, and 1-2 rucks are so far ahead of the comp. Unless something drastic happens, will you get the value you want from a compromised on-field ruck.

It might be harder to use the generated cash well in other lines.

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The basic theory is that you're gambling that Gawn's price and scoring rate is unsustainable, and you're cashing in on the bubble before it bursts. I'm seriously considering trading Gawn to ROB this week myself.

 

[Lynchmond]

Other people around here are a lot better at the cost/benefit analysis of SC.

The general idea is to sell Gawn at his high point before he depreciates, getting maximum value out of him.

The arguments for:

Gawn is about to play Brisbane, who seem to hold him pretty well. Additionally, ROB is about to play Geelong, and Lycett smashed a 180 against the Cats. ROB has a negative B/E and just scored around 180 himself. If ROB scores okay against Geelong and Gawn is held to a below 100 score against Brisbane, there could be 4-500k value in a Gawn to ROB trade (about 300k this week), plus the money ROB makes and the money Gawn loses, should you wish to trade him back in.

The arguments against:

Fewer trades to bring players in and out.

Gawn has been the #1 ruck so far this season, and 1-2 rucks are so far ahead of the comp. Unless something drastic happens, will you get the value you want from a compromised on-field ruck.

It might be harder to use the generated cash well in other lines.

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The basic theory is that you're gambling that Gawn's price and scoring rate is unsustainable, and you're cashing in on the bubble before it bursts. I'm seriously considering trading Gawn to ROB this week myself.

You must have a ridiculous amount of trades left to even contemplate this and get the full benefit of spreading the money amongst your team.

 

[Eagling]

You must have a ridiculous amount of trades left to even contemplate this and get the full benefit of spreading the money amongst your team.

Yeah, that is one of the big concerns, and I don't have enough, in all likelihood, to make good use of such a maneuver myself.

 

[bomberboy]

My team before trades;
Lloyd, Hurn, Ryan, Laird, Williams, Hore (Duursma, Answerth)
Kelly, Cripps, Neale, Macrae, Oliver, Gaff, Taranto, Baker (Bewley, Clarke, Scott)
Gawn, Grundy (Bines)
Marshall, Heeney, Dunkley, Daniel, Danger, Kelly (Gardner, Young)

And 6 trades left, 140k or so in the bank.

I'm currently ranked 1,369 and think I'm a great chance of finishing top 1k, but I'm a bit concerned about my trade situation.

I'm considering taking a risk, and trading in Robbie Gray at M8 - I can see my forward bench becoming an issue down the track, and this would give me the swing set to avoid that issue.

Alternatively, Sloane comes in.

Is taking the risk on Gray foolish, or does the idea have merit?

The other option is trading Baker and Hore to Logue and Stewart - moving Duursma to M8 for the swing with Answerth. This gives me 128k and 4 trades left, but in a worse position next week as the midfield upgrade would need to be delayed.

Any feedback would be great!

 

[frosty1]

I don't see the value in this when, if Gawn drops from this price level, he's still likely to outscore the #3 ruck from here in.

The move has value when doing it in the midfield where there are more players tightly grouped and you can ride form waves, but in the ruck I just can't see the trough you're hoping for from Gawn being lower than the crest from most of the others (on exposed form).

So you're deciding to spend money elsewhere to try and make up the (say) 20 points a week difference assuming Gawn regresses to 110/week and you find a 90/week ruck (but it could be 60+ points a week if you pick it wrong, even if Gawn drops off a little). Where do you spend that? You obviously don't invest in 1x expensive premo, so I assume you're looking at a couple at 550k vs a couple at 450k if you keep Gawn. Do you already own the 450k players?

Obviously every team looks different and for some that will be a masterstroke. I just can't see giving away a guy that has 4 <100 and 14>140 in the last year and a half as being something that I'd enjoy doing

 

[stephen]

Other people around here are a lot better at the cost/benefit analysis of SC.

The general idea is to sell Gawn at his high point before he depreciates, getting maximum value out of him.

The arguments for:

Gawn is about to play Brisbane, who seem to hold him pretty well. Additionally, ROB is about to play Geelong, and Lycett smashed a 180 against the Cats. ROB has a negative B/E and just scored around 180 himself. If ROB scores okay against Geelong and Gawn is held to a below 100 score against Brisbane, there could be 4-500k value in a Gawn to ROB trade (about 300k this week), plus the money ROB makes and the money Gawn loses, should you wish to trade him back in.

The arguments against:

Fewer trades to bring players in and out.

Gawn has been the #1 ruck so far this season, and 1-2 rucks are so far ahead of the comp. Unless something drastic happens, will you get the value you want from a compromised on-field ruck.

It might be harder to use the generated cash well in other lines.

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The basic theory is that you're gambling that Gawn's price and scoring rate is unsustainable, and you're cashing in on the bubble before it bursts. I'm seriously considering trading Gawn to ROB this week myself.

I think the value of this kind of trade is earlier in the season, where the cash injection can be used to give you a head start on upgrades elsewhere. By now most people are finishing their teams, so a trade like this is setting you backwards rather than getting a head start. The only exception would be if you were doing poorly with cash gen but had plenty of trades, and thought you were unlikely to be able to finish your team without a move like this.

 

[WindyHillWizard]

My team before trades;
Lloyd, Hurn, Ryan, Laird, Williams, Hore (Duursma, Answerth)
Kelly, Cripps, Neale, Macrae, Oliver, Gaff, Taranto, Baker (Bewley, Clarke, Scott)
Gawn, Grundy (Bines)
Marshall, Heeney, Dunkley, Daniel, Danger, Kelly (Gardner, Young)

And 6 trades left, 140k or so in the bank.

I'm currently ranked 1,369 and think I'm a great chance of finishing top 1k, but I'm a bit concerned about my trade situation.

I'm considering taking a risk, and trading in Robbie Gray at M8 - I can see my forward bench becoming an issue down the track, and this would give me the swing set to avoid that issue.

Alternatively, Sloane comes in.

Is taking the risk on Gray foolish, or does the idea have merit?

The other option is trading Baker and Hore to Logue and Stewart - moving Duursma to M8 for the swing with Answerth. This gives me 128k and 4 trades left, but in a worse position next week as the midfield upgrade would need to be delayed.

Any feedback would be great!

I think these next two trades need to finish off your team and then keep 4 trades for injuries. I like Baker to Logue which opened up the swing set with Duursma. I would then sit on this for a couple of weeks and see what opportunities open up for you to spend those funds for upgrading. M8 or D6 are both options to shore up with a premium but you don't need to move as this straight away.

 

[Herbie66]

Scott - > Hind

Can bust the ? and go Duursma - > Grundy but then will rely on Clarke/Setterfield/Hind as M8 in case Hannebery doesn't look viable.

Other ruck options are :-

Kreuzer , ROB , Lycett , McEvoy , Witts , Martin or just have some fun and go back to Mumford

Can't look at ruckmen anymore , it is Grundy time ?

4 trades left , if Hannebery doesn't work as M8 too bad (season can't get much worse)