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Another point to consider is in the two seasons I can remember, particularly at the beginning of the season, it has been advantageous to pick as many bowlers as possible.
This is interesting ... I see that the top specialist batsman (not bowl-eligible) was Ferguson with something like the 24th best average ... and I recall that in club cricket bowlers were almost always on top early on (whether due to conditions or bowlers getting back into the swing more quickly!).

Notably most of the value seems to be amongst the batsmen though (presumably because of Herbie's point about volatile scoring). Might have to be careful how we balance that.
 
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This is interesting ... I see that the top specialist batsman (not bowl-eligible) was Ferguson with something like the 24th best average ... and I recall that in club cricket bowlers were almost always on top early on (whether due to conditions or bowlers getting back into the swing more quickly!).

Notably most of the value seems to be amongst the batsmen though (presumably because of Herbie's point about volatile scoring). Might have to be careful how we balance that.
Could be the smart way too avoid going too cookie-cutter. I don't have Lynn or Vince who will be fairly popular. Laughlin, Swepson, Green, Morris all better options than even Lynn imo. You do however run the risk that Lynn, as he can, explodes. If it worked it could give you a crucial edge.
 
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Hmm, looks like picking a starting side might not be that easy this year. Having a couple of all-rounders who can be relied upon to score well whether they have a double or not is generally an important part of the game and they might not be so easy to find this season.
Stoinis and Short look a bit too overpriced and neither is necessarily the class of player to dominate consistently from season to season either. Curran's DGW makes him an easy selection but I wouldn't bet on him backing up his batting performance from last season.
Russell could struggle to bowl 4 overs consistently, Nabi might remain a bit-part player with bat and ball, Sams might continue his reversion from the second half of last season.
Morris looks like he's well underpriced but will he miss the first DGW?
For mine Mitch Marsh looks like the most likely to reliably bat high and bowl 3-4 overs, the Scorchers have lost a lot recently. Of course that's assuming he doesn't continue to under-perform in short form cricket as he has for quite a while.

When it comes to cheapies I don't see any that can be banked on to make much cash. Green's looked Jason Holder-eque recently and could be a great pick if his form translates. It doesn't always for young players.
I think Harris would be lucky to be picked every game for the Gades or the Victorian one-day side if he wasn't around the test squad, he's just not a good short form player.
Sutherland lacks exposed form with the bat, could be a decent prospect with the ball if he plays. Problem is that Wildermuth's been in good form recently, I doubt Sutherland gets picked every game.
Jewell looks like the most likely to be a good pick if he opens.
Heazlett hasn't generated much interest which is a bit odd, he scored 50+ in all his one-day innings for QLD before getting injured. I've talked him up before though and he hasn't done much yet beyond the odd innings. If he doesn't do much early look for him to open with Bryant after Banton leaves, they had a good combo going in the one day cup.

The ~80k players don't offer much either. Steketee's in decent form but is pretty inconsistent.
Paris gets talked up every season for fantasy even though he's done very little when he has played in the BBL. Also far form certain to play regularly.
Wes Agar's my pick. He'll take plenty of wickets if he bowls like he has recently and should be a lock now that Laughlin's gone.
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BBL|02 (Renegades)
2 games [147,30]

89 (52); 5x4's, 8x6's
20 (15); 3x4's, 1x6's
BBL|03 (Strikers)
8 games [90,24,49,9,8,60,3,54]

49 (19); 9x4's, 1x6's
16 (11); 3x4's, 0x6's
31 (20); 5x4's, 1x6's
8 (10); 1x4's, 0x6's
5 (3); 1x4's, 0x6's
31 (19); 3x4's, 2x6's
3 (7); 0x4's, 0x6's
32 (25); 1x4's, 2x6's
BBL|04 (Hurricanes)
5 games [0,1,37,49,8]

0 (2); 0x4's, 0x6's
1 (4); 0x4's, 0x6's
29 (24); 1x4's, 1x6's
34 (23); 2x4's, 1x6's
7 (7); 1x4's, 0x6's

Fawad Ahmed
51 BBL Matches (45 Wickets)
Spotless Stadium - 17 matches (22 wickets)

Adelaide Oval - 3 matches (1)
Blundstone Arena - 4 matches (3)
Marvel Stadium - 6 matches (5)
Gabba - 3 matches (0)
Launceston - 1 match (2)
MCG - 4 matches (2)
Metricon - 2 matches (1)
Manuka Oval - 2 matches (1)
SCG - 7 matches (8)
WACA - 2 matches (0)
I'm tempted by Hales' price, but I really don't rate him at all- especially in Australian conditions. Not sure what the Thunder were thinking picking him up honestly.
 
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BBL|02 (Renegades)
2 games [147,30]

89 (52); 5x4's, 8x6's
20 (15); 3x4's, 1x6's
BBL|03 (Strikers)
8 games [90,24,49,9,8,60,3,54]

49 (19); 9x4's, 1x6's
16 (11); 3x4's, 0x6's
31 (20); 5x4's, 1x6's
8 (10); 1x4's, 0x6's
5 (3); 1x4's, 0x6's
31 (19); 3x4's, 2x6's
3 (7); 0x4's, 0x6's
32 (25); 1x4's, 2x6's
BBL|04 (Hurricanes)
5 games [0,1,37,49,8]

0 (2); 0x4's, 0x6's
1 (4); 0x4's, 0x6's
29 (24); 1x4's, 1x6's
34 (23); 2x4's, 1x6's
7 (7); 1x4's, 0x6's

Fawad Ahmed
51 BBL Matches (45 Wickets)
Spotless Stadium - 17 matches (22 wickets)

Adelaide Oval - 3 matches (1)
Blundstone Arena - 4 matches (3)
Marvel Stadium - 6 matches (5)
Gabba - 3 matches (0)
Launceston - 1 match (2)
MCG - 4 matches (2)
Metricon - 2 matches (1)
Manuka Oval - 2 matches (1)
SCG - 7 matches (8)
WACA - 2 matches (0)
Above and beyond , looks like Hales had 6 actual scores of 30 + that along with boundaries and SR equates to a fairly reasonable SC score.

6 out of 15 might be a reasonable average for specialist batsmen.

As expected Fawad with half his wickets at Spotless in a 3rd of his games.

Very much appreciated
 
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Thanks mate, great colour. I think I’m making a bit of progress (and enjoying) figuring out some of the similarities/differences from first principles, but I appreciate all the pointers from everyone to help speed up the process!
no probs , still trying to workout the most effective way to play this game myself ?
 
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This is interesting ... I see that the top specialist batsman (not bowl-eligible) was Ferguson with something like the 24th best average ... and I recall that in club cricket bowlers were almost always on top early on (whether due to conditions or bowlers getting back into the swing more quickly!).

Notably most of the value seems to be amongst the batsmen though (presumably because of Herbie's point about volatile scoring). Might have to be careful how we balance that.
hahaha don't blame me for clubs refusing to pay top dollar for some West Indian quality and instead of settling for second rate imports instead - Vince , Banton , Hales , Livingstone , Salt will all tease and fail to deliver on a consistent basis but I am sure 3 will be very popular to start.

personally like a couple of cheaper Sixers batsmen

Morris is (should be) a absolute gift , Laughlin should be a lock.

Turner , Bancroft (?)

the value does seem to lie there

5 guns , 6-8 premiums , 3 rookies should be a reasonable starting side (well I am hoping so anyway otherwise my season will be stuffed after week 1)
 
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Heazlett returned to Grade cricket on the weekend scoring 53 so should be right for the Marsh One Day Cup Final on Tuesday.

Maddinson & Maxwell played Premier League cricket on Saturday , Maddinson maybe available for the Shield game commencing Friday vs NSW.
 
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I'd like to take the opportunity to promote the following "unique" competition to be potentially offered by @Beg2Differ (Mark) on this site .... https://supercoachscores.com/threads/big-bash-fantasy-sweep.4293/

Sure it is like buying a sweepstakes ticket in say the Melbourne Cup as an example but by my calculations you would be purchasing $10 worth of additional entertainment (17 cents per game or 4 cents per player randomly drawn) for 60 BBL games and the possible chance of winning something and the general banter that it ensues ...

To put it in perspective we had 70+ entrants in the World Cup Cricket comp which is more prize money that most RDT comps offer these days ...

Not often that someone puts their hand up to run such a professional comp and it does support the site for a small price ...

Not on any sort of chair here ... but am willing to provide some endorsement ...
 

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South Africa’s T20 Mzansi Super League SC Scores for BBL listed players

Match score with average in brackets.

Match 13
Vince: 64 (97.5)
Christian: 46 (23.3)

Match 14
Miller: 72 (34.3)
Morris: 43 (79.2)
Hales: 31 (13.7)
Dunk: 19 (36)

Match 15
Steyn: 62 (60)
Vince: 43 (79.3)
Livingstone: 8 (47)

Match 16
Curran: 111 (48)
De Villiers: 96 (37.5)
Christian: 85 (35.6)

Morris’ team still undefeated on top of the ladder.
 

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Don’t know why they couldn’t list him at his average last season as that should be the precedence with previous occurrences as players prices shouldn’t be inflated when they switch clubs.
Looks like they have used his overall average which is very weird.

I still need to email about Steyn & Zahir being priced the same so will add it in.

Has changed my starting teams and proposed trading plans for the first 3 weeks which is very annoying , back to the drawing board.
 
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