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A: Essendon already have 5-6 players in line for midfield rotations before him.

B: He's training with the forwards.
I hadn't heard this before. Do you have a link?
A lot of changes in the Essendon coaching staff with Caracella probably being the most significant. Maybe we shouldn't be expecting the 2018 Devon Smith.
 
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He's not playing Midfield, which he was during that season.

His tackle average was outrageously high, unsustainablely so.
All of the talk at the Dons is that he's slotted for midfield, maybe there's some Dons supporters here that might be able to shed some more light?
 
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Was doing some twiddling to see what happens if I took out Heeney and stumbled across this $0 left over team, so it must be destiny...

Laird, Sicily, Doc, Hill, Williamson, Gould (McLennan, Rivers)
Macrae, Cripps, Danger, Oliver, Lyons, Curnow, Pickett, Robertson (McHenry, Shipley, Hibberd)
Grundy, Gawn (Comben)
Martin, Lynch, Acres, Smith, Brander, Rankine (King, Cameron)

Gambling on Lyons and Curnow (maybe Walsh instead but it didn't use all the budget :p) blasting some solid pp$ early and some mid-priced madness up forward coming off but could be a fun ride heh.
 
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Was doing some twiddling to see what happens if I took out Heeney and stumbled across this $0 left over team, so it must be destiny...

Laird, Sicily, Doc, Hill, Williamson, Gould (McLennan, Rivers)
Macrae, Cripps, Danger, Oliver, Lyons, Curnow, Pickett, Robertson (McHenry, Shipley, Hibberd)
Grundy, Gawn (Comben)
Martin, Lynch, Acres, Smith, Brander, Rankine (King, Cameron)

Gambling on Lyons and Curnow (maybe Walsh instead but it didn't use all the budget :p) blasting some solid pp$ early and some mid-prices madness up forward coming off but could be a fun ride heh.


Interesting that you've chosen both Curnow and Lyons and being able to fit them in, guess I could without Whitfield. I've been tossing up between the two. I like the Lynch pick, he's in my side at mo (not that it means much). Laird and Sicily are both upgrade targets for me. I don't like the fact that Cripps had so many sub 90 scores in the last 1/2 of the season, but he is an upgrade target too. Out of that lot I only see Acres as being the most risky, but it all depends on his role as he had been played out of position at the Saints, a watch for me.
 
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Interesting that you've chosen both Curnow and Lyons and being able to fit them in, guess I could without Whitfield. I've been tossing up between the two. I like the Lynch pick, he's in my side at mo (not that it means much). Laird and Sicily are both upgrade targets for me. I don't like the fact that Cripps had so many sub 90 scores in the last 1/2 of the season, but he is an upgrade target too. Out of that lot I only see Acres as being the most risky, but it all depends on his role as he had been played out of position at the Saints, a watch for me.
Of the likely keeper forwards I'm really only sold on starting Dusty. Whitfield feels like too much cash; Heeney has injury questions; I feel Walters had a spike season, boosted somewhat more by some last gasp winning goals, that makes him overpriced as well.

So if I shoot for value there and downgrade Neale for M5 I can get Rowell up to a speculative M6 as well.
 
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I’m a fan of Naismith at this stage but need to see if he gets a more No.1 ruck role in the preseason games. It’s more Gawn than Naismith that is driving the selection. If Gawn starts slow and leaks up to $200k and if Naismith can avg at least 70-75 with maybe one spike score somewhere, it’s perfect.
Can make some bloody scary looking sides with Naismith at R2 paired with Grundy. 4 premos deep forward and back with 5 in the middle.

I hope Gawn gets fit for JLT because I might not be able to resist a risky R2.
 
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Interested in coaches opinion on the following value/break out candidates as I feel that these core group of players will be pivotal in deciding our overall structure and starting team. I've provided my brief summation below as a starting point, feel free to add in yours.

S Docherty - Was on his way to becoming one of those rare SC defender capable of punching out midfield like numbers prior to the misfortune of rupturing his ACL's in consecutive preseasons. No doubt over his ability to score at Keeper level, but how quickly can he return to those lofty numbers? He's ticking all the right boxes thus far during the preseason so here's hoping.

S Coniglio - The captaincy indicates that he's invested in the club long term. Has the capacity to go big, but this is countered by his tendency to throw in some really bad scores, not a desirable traits for one of our precious starting midfield spot. Add in the too many chiefs at GWS and it makes it hard to start him with any confidence.

D Smith - A stellar 1st season in the red & black, but was that one out of the box...? Signs during his 7 games prior to his season ending injury last year points towards that being the case. Nudging towards the 150 games mark and has only 2 seasons in the 90+ range. The Bombers are crying out for more bigger body midfielders so does he fit that mould...?

J Steven - Will be 30yo in March and I'm not sure whether footy is his most important priority at this point in his life. Coupled with the 'old man' calf niggles and that's enough of a red flag for mine.

T Doedee - Averaged 82 in his first season so it's not beyond him. Could be a more than viable alternative to a high end Rookie who we know can score if he returns to his intercepting role.

D Roberton - If the doctors gives him the all-clear to start the season, then he has to be in serious discussion. Unlike other injuries, his heart condition can be treated and monitored and he's had some time to do that.

D Houston - Word is that he's going to continue through the midfield similar to his back half of 2019 where he put up some encouraging numbers.

J Dawson - Like Houston above, relished the switch to the backline post bye but no confirmation from any sources whether this is going to be a thing for 2020.

Both Houston and Dawson are in that awkward price range where the margin for success or failure is a fine one. They have age on their side and their DPP status provides some comfort. I'm of the opinion that whether you take none, one or both will be dependent on how many other from the above you're carrying in your starting team. Regardless of how confident you are with any of the above selections, they all carry an element of risk to my eyes.
Interesting that you say that.
He played 7 games last year obviously carrying a knee injury which he ended up succumbing to, so I think those games have to be taken for what they were.
In 2018, he averaged 98 and was the leading tackler in the competition. His 2017 average was 94.
Yes, his price is 'mid-pricer' at an average of 62, but I would say he's more a premium coming back from a LTI. If he can get to his 2018 average, and I can't see any reason why he wont, then that's a 36 point win and a 200k gain in price. Not that his gain in price means much because at 98 he's a top 4 Fwd and a season keeper. ATS he's my F4.
To put it in context, Heeney is priced at 94 and Martin at 100.

but I would say he's more a premium coming back from a LTI

D Smith currently is not and never has been a premium. I think if he plays midfield he could go back to high 90's but if he rotates forward low 90.
 
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Based on last season's averages , only 8 players we can pick as forwards this year went 90+

Whitfield , Walters , Martin , Ablett , Heeney , Greene , Cameron , Ziebell

surely if Smith can get to low 90's as forward you lock him in at his price ?
 
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Feast your eyes on what I believe to be the best Guns and Rookies Side I've made thus far in the pre-season.

We have a core of thirteen top of the line premiums, all of which have the capability to average in the top echelon of their position. They are backed by another four rookies in the high-priced category, rounded out by another dozen highly touted rookie prospects, and the quintessential piece to the puzzle, Comben.

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Spend the Rowel/Bonar money to upgrade Doch, I really feel you're taking on way to much midpriced risk with this team! ;) :ROFLMAO: Love it!
 
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but I would say he's more a premium coming back from a LTI

D Smith currently is not and never has been a premium. I think if he plays midfield he could go back to high 90's but if he rotates forward low 90.
He's forward eligible. Last season there were 8 forwards that averaged 90+. He might not be a premium player, but a 90+ average is keeper level as a forward.

Edit: Herbie said nearly the exact same thing less than a minute before me - great minds.
 
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He's forward eligible. Last season there were 8 forwards that averaged 90+. He might not be a premium player, but a 90+ average is keeper level as a forward.

Edit: Herbie said nearly the exact same thing less than a minute before me - great minds.
lol

glad someone agrees ? , obviously wait until the JLT but seems a steal at his starting price.
 
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Can make some bloody scary looking sides with Naismith at R2 paired with Grundy. 4 premos deep forward and back with 5 in the middle.

I hope Gawn gets fit for JLT because I might not be able to resist a risky R2.
Completely agree, was looking at putting together a team with Sauce as R2 tonight and that extra $350K to spend does make the other lines look much better. Very tempting.
 
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Based on last season's averages , only 8 players we can pick as forwards this year went 90+

Whitfield , Walters , Martin , Ablett , Heeney , Greene , Cameron , Ziebell

surely if Smith can get to low 90's as forward you lock him in at his price ?
He's forward eligible. Last season there were 8 forwards that averaged 90+. He might not be a premium player, but a 90+ average is keeper level as a forward.

Edit: Herbie said nearly the exact same thing less than a minute before me - great minds.
lol

glad someone agrees ? , obviously wait until the JLT but seems a steal at his starting price.
I don't doubt if he can ave 90 plus he will be a steal at his starting price. In 2018 there were 19 forwards that scored better than 90 so the "bar" as it were fluctuates a lot. Without wanting to get into the semantics of the term "premium" for me (but maybe not for others) I could never consider some one who has never ave over 100 a premium in any position. Yes I know Def and Fwds are not the same as mids but that is just me. Note I don't consider Heeney a premium but he would be a fwd keeper as a consistent scorer in the 90's.
 
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I don't doubt if he can ave 90 plus he will be a steal at his starting price. In 2018 there were 19 forwards that scored better than 90 so the "bar" as it were fluctuates a lot. Without wanting to get into the semantics of the term "premium" for me (but maybe not for others) I could never consider some one who has never ave over 100 a premium in any position. Yes I know Def and Fwds are not the same as mids but that is just me. Note I don't consider Heeney a premium but he would be a fwd keeper as a consistent scorer in the 90's.
don't think I ever said Smith was a premium but anyway , I guess we need to wait until the end of the season to see how many average 90+

all going well I hope I can lock him into my starting side and he becomes a season long keeper.

certainly appear a number of options that could take the next step , from what I have read here , there and everywhere seems only Whitfield , Dusty & Heeney appear the most likely to be Top 3 so it is fairly open after that
 
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but I would say he's more a premium coming back from a LTI

D Smith currently is not and never has been a premium. I think if he plays midfield he could go back to high 90's but if he rotates forward low 90.
Okay, maybe I should have said more 'like' a premium. That statement was in response to the poster I was quoting who said he was ' a quintessential mid-pricer' A premium player for me in the Fwd line is a top 6 scorer, same in Def and a top 8 scorer in the Mids. Uber Premos I rate as the top tier scorers across each line. This may not be the way everyone rates players but it's my way of setting targets, budgeting trades and general trading strategy for the year.
 
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Took me awhile to find it.

https://www.essendonfc.com.au/video...dal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1579055224001

Has Dev Smith tagged on screen as a midfielder but he personally spoke about drilling with the forward group.


I definitely think he could be value but between Dylan Shiel arriving and basically being a better contested player, wanting to get midfield time into Darcy Parish, and Heppell/Merrett/McGrath, there's not going to be much time for Smith and Stringer in the guts.

As a fwd I don't see him having the scoring potential that would make him either worth keeping or get enough $$$ out of him to trade.
 
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smith scored 102 against Melbourne with Shiel scoring 92 parish 112 Heppell 125 Merrett 120 and McGrath 88 in the team
 
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Anyone else rolling with Danger at M5 ?

J Macrae, N Fyfe, J Kelly, P Cripps, P Dangerfield, M Rowell, A Bonar, M Pickett.
( D Robertson, T Rivers, J Mead.)
 
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