Position Midfielder Discussion
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Here you go, great idea with the gsheet, hadn't even thought of that, much better 
Tidied up a couple and added one or two (RCD = 7kgs, knew it would come to me sooner or later, added ROB, RoMa and a couple more).
Second link is to a very basic price estimation / BE estimation tool. Had a much nicer one somewhere, but this one works ok for basic stuff.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iNhLjTjgpl7W5jT7ic0E4q29elG_ONgOyxJjXD859Ng/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tycOq5Zl4bJLra-_xjbYwcvjRjyjDl3iLL-Asiv7oZU/edit?usp=sharing
Tidied up a couple and added one or two (RCD = 7kgs, knew it would come to me sooner or later, added ROB, RoMa and a couple more).
Second link is to a very basic price estimation / BE estimation tool. Had a much nicer one somewhere, but this one works ok for basic stuff.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iNhLjTjgpl7W5jT7ic0E4q29elG_ONgOyxJjXD859Ng/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tycOq5Zl4bJLra-_xjbYwcvjRjyjDl3iLL-Asiv7oZU/edit?usp=sharing
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I've moved gutsroy's post to the thread link below, can't have all his hard work go to waste...
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Here you go, great idea with the gsheet, hadn't even thought of that, much better
Tidied up a couple and added one or two (RCD = 7kgs, knew it would come to me sooner or later, added ROB, RoMa and a couple more).
Second link is to a very basic price estimation / BE estimation tool. Had a much nicer one somewhere, but this one works ok for basic stuff.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iNhLjTjgpl7W5jT7ic0E4q29elG_ONgOyxJjXD859Ng/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tycOq5Zl4bJLra-_xjbYwcvjRjyjDl3iLL-Asiv7oZU/edit?usp=sharing
Tidied up a couple and added one or two (RCD = 7kgs, knew it would come to me sooner or later, added ROB, RoMa and a couple more).
Second link is to a very basic price estimation / BE estimation tool. Had a much nicer one somewhere, but this one works ok for basic stuff.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iNhLjTjgpl7W5jT7ic0E4q29elG_ONgOyxJjXD859Ng/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tycOq5Zl4bJLra-_xjbYwcvjRjyjDl3iLL-Asiv7oZU/edit?usp=sharing
I don't know if general soreness will affect Tom Mitchell during the season, but I'm trusting the HAWs experts to have him ready to play AFL from round 1. I'm guessing, at worst, he may play less minutes in the early games, but still score reasonably well, then go on being a top Mid this year at his discounted price.
@Tails said "...........Can talk from experience on this matter … Whilst the bones will heal it becomes a mental barrier to overcome ....."
I've considered that, but when Tom Mitchell said after the Marsh game "I hit a few bodies and pulled up fine from a few big collisions and got through the game unscathed, that's the main thing." I'm reading that as mentally he's not affected. I always thought he is mentally strong, by the way he was treated by Longmire at SYD, but he just kept playing his role and didn't seem bothered.
Regarding other AFL players returning from similar injuries and didn't perform well, yes that's a worry, but maybe it was that 'mental barrier' that was their problem, I don't know? But they aren't Tom Mitchell, who I see will be ready, physically and mentally, for AFL.
I can only base my thoughts on what I have read and my interpretation is that I expect he will do very well this year.
@Tails said "...........Can talk from experience on this matter … Whilst the bones will heal it becomes a mental barrier to overcome ....."
I've considered that, but when Tom Mitchell said after the Marsh game "I hit a few bodies and pulled up fine from a few big collisions and got through the game unscathed, that's the main thing." I'm reading that as mentally he's not affected. I always thought he is mentally strong, by the way he was treated by Longmire at SYD, but he just kept playing his role and didn't seem bothered.
Regarding other AFL players returning from similar injuries and didn't perform well, yes that's a worry, but maybe it was that 'mental barrier' that was their problem, I don't know? But they aren't Tom Mitchell, who I see will be ready, physically and mentally, for AFL.
I can only base my thoughts on what I have read and my interpretation is that I expect he will do very well this year.
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Tom Mitchell has spent a lot of time with Greg 'Diesel' Williams to get through some tough times mentally and to improve his game, I'm still not writing off Tom Mitchell to hit a 115+ average this season, just seems to have the mental toughness to enable him to do it. It'll be his body or the coaching staff that may have other ideas. Worpel showed last season he can take more responsibility.
I'm still 50/50 on starting him, he's a day by day prospect up to round 1 and not a worry as he's easilly replaced around that price bracket.
I could be going in to 2020 with 4 or 5 PODS being Mitchell, Gawn, Lloyd, Whitfield and Dusty.............and man that brings a smile to my face.
I'm still 50/50 on starting him, he's a day by day prospect up to round 1 and not a worry as he's easilly replaced around that price bracket.
I could be going in to 2020 with 4 or 5 PODS being Mitchell, Gawn, Lloyd, Whitfield and Dusty.............and man that brings a smile to my face.
Feeling much the same. Part of me really, really wants to start him... I'm about 40/60 at the moment.
My biggest fear is that he opens the season with 10 games at 95, then finishes with 12 games at 125.
You can't understate the importance of a fast start in this game. Sure, in that example he's gone 22 games at 111, but the smart coaches have jumped on post-bye and got 12 games at 125 - while possible benefitting from a Bont or Danger who's gone at 125 for the opening 10 games while you were stuck with Mitchell. So he turns out to be a passable pick, but others have leveraged him as a great pick.
My biggest fear is that he opens the season with 10 games at 95, then finishes with 12 games at 125.
You can't understate the importance of a fast start in this game. Sure, in that example he's gone 22 games at 111, but the smart coaches have jumped on post-bye and got 12 games at 125 - while possible benefitting from a Bont or Danger who's gone at 125 for the opening 10 games while you were stuck with Mitchell. So he turns out to be a passable pick, but others have leveraged him as a great pick.
For me it's not a question of optimism or pessimism. Even in his Brownlow year he dropped to $570k by round 8. There is no need to make a rnd 1 decision on him. He isn't cheap and he won't hurt non owners.
If I was to have an opinion on his scoring, he had the Hawthorn midfield to himself in his Brownlow year and he now has some friends. Omeara was still finding his legs and now Worpel and Wingard want a piece of the pie.
If I was to have an opinion on his scoring, he had the Hawthorn midfield to himself in his Brownlow year and he now has some friends. Omeara was still finding his legs and now Worpel and Wingard want a piece of the pie.
I think he's still an opening batsmen in their pecking order and he had an interrupted preseason last year. Can't see why he wouldn't be a better player this year. The depth probably changes the roles of others like Harmes and Brayshaw. I think Viney might also be in for a good year. Not sure if has the skill set to average 110+ but might get close.
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