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Yeah - he is amusing. His were the classiest and more humorous answers - yet seemed to have an element of understanding too. It has me thinking though. I was searching for an excuse to remove one of my guns with a mid-price combo due to what might be a cheap Rookie shortage. Is this the one? Can anyone easily point me to where I find a tool or formula that gives me the average expected at a certain price point and another formula or app that determines increase and weeks etc?
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To get average expected for the price just divide by 5428.
You can enter predicted scores into tooserious.net to get predicted price rises but personally I just multiply my predicted average by 5000 to get a rough figure of what they'll get to in eight weeks. It's impossible to predict the variations in scoring that will actually affect price movements so I don't think anything more than a rough guide is much use anyway.
You can enter predicted scores into tooserious.net to get predicted price rises but personally I just multiply my predicted average by 5000 to get a rough figure of what they'll get to in eight weeks. It's impossible to predict the variations in scoring that will actually affect price movements so I don't think anything more than a rough guide is much use anyway.
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Walesy's site is a good resource, find the player, make sure you have the right comp (DT/SC) delected and use the calculator. Enter any points for each round.
http://tooserious.net/forum/stats.php
http://tooserious.net/forum/stats.php
After planning all pre season on just taking Grundy and Gawn and a R/F backup (which looks like being Ceglar given everything. I had planned on it being Ladhams, but that looks like a no go so I've had to find 100k for the standard plan), this thread has me second and third guessing.
So many savings.
So many PoDs.
So much chance for a slow start to the season from both Gawn (pre season injury) and Grundy (Collingwood focused on September, not March, so managing their most valuable piece to be firing when it matters may be a priority).
Surely some combination of Marshall, English, O'Brien, Lycett, Naitanui will keep me close enough while also providing me with a big PoD for when the inevitable happens that allows me to make inroads on the overall and also gives me a chance at a weekly.
Surely.
Please someone remind me that locking these guys in because they'll be the #1 and #2 scorers in the game is still the smart move, and even if they regress by 50k, the trades I'd need to spend to get them in at the lower price are worth more to me than the $$.
I need to turn off the computer.
So many savings.
So many PoDs.
So much chance for a slow start to the season from both Gawn (pre season injury) and Grundy (Collingwood focused on September, not March, so managing their most valuable piece to be firing when it matters may be a priority).
Surely some combination of Marshall, English, O'Brien, Lycett, Naitanui will keep me close enough while also providing me with a big PoD for when the inevitable happens that allows me to make inroads on the overall and also gives me a chance at a weekly.
Surely.
Please someone remind me that locking these guys in because they'll be the #1 and #2 scorers in the game is still the smart move, and even if they regress by 50k, the trades I'd need to spend to get them in at the lower price are worth more to me than the $$.
I need to turn off the computer.
Just looking on TooSerious for Gawn's AAT (obviously only a guide) for the first 9 rounds
144 , 155 , 148
135 , 123 , 143
112 , 134 , 129
leave him at $ 676,992.00
his first 11 games AAT is 123.75
his last 11 games AAT is 118.54 where he comes up against Grundy twice
Not sure if that AAT is based on all games v opponents or a selected period
now if only their was a ruckman available in Round 12 who was coming off their Bye ?
Round 12 v Grundy AAT 109
Round 13 BYE
Round 14 v Martin AAT 74
144 , 155 , 148
135 , 123 , 143
112 , 134 , 129
leave him at $ 676,992.00
his first 11 games AAT is 123.75
his last 11 games AAT is 118.54 where he comes up against Grundy twice
Not sure if that AAT is based on all games v opponents or a selected period
now if only their was a ruckman available in Round 12 who was coming off their Bye ?
Round 12 v Grundy AAT 109
Round 13 BYE
Round 14 v Martin AAT 74
Gawn went on a run at the wrong time for you
He was averaging 119 and had dropped $50k by R8. Then averaged 151 over the next 5 games around the byes and was $706k by his bye. Low point R6 $640k after averaging 114 to that point.
He had dropped to $620k by R22 averaging 124 then got that 212 in the last round that added 4ppg to his average and $20k to his price this year.
At $700k he needs a solid 3-4 week run going at 130+ to maintain the lofty price subject to whether he decides to pull out another 212 early.
He was averaging 119 and had dropped $50k by R8. Then averaged 151 over the next 5 games around the byes and was $706k by his bye. Low point R6 $640k after averaging 114 to that point.
He had dropped to $620k by R22 averaging 124 then got that 212 in the last round that added 4ppg to his average and $20k to his price this year.
At $700k he needs a solid 3-4 week run going at 130+ to maintain the lofty price subject to whether he decides to pull out another 212 early.
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Barring injury, maximum Gawn I would expect to drop would be $50k, that's being conservative IMO also.
Let's say Naismith averages 85, makes ~ $150k roughly to byes, plays every game, same role, Buddy back by this stage well and truly so again pretty conservative. That's $250k you need to come up with to get him in if that's the plan.
Looking at this years rookies and their scoring potential this looks a challenge, remember, whilst your trading and whoring this money to get Gawn you're not making any upgrades elsewhere in your team.
Like I said, I'm still debating which way to go, I had a team I didn't mind this morning with Naismith but I've reverted back to Gawn/Grundy.
Gawn went under 100 3 times last year, once due to an ankle injury and 4 times the year before with 2 in the 90's. He's not the type to give you a window to grab him at bargain base price like a lot of midfielders, and even if he does drop more you'll likely still need cash saved and a good plan in place to grab at the right time because when he does start going North again, he usually does it pretty quick.
Let's say Naismith averages 85, makes ~ $150k roughly to byes, plays every game, same role, Buddy back by this stage well and truly so again pretty conservative. That's $250k you need to come up with to get him in if that's the plan.
Looking at this years rookies and their scoring potential this looks a challenge, remember, whilst your trading and whoring this money to get Gawn you're not making any upgrades elsewhere in your team.
Like I said, I'm still debating which way to go, I had a team I didn't mind this morning with Naismith but I've reverted back to Gawn/Grundy.
Gawn went under 100 3 times last year, once due to an ankle injury and 4 times the year before with 2 in the 90's. He's not the type to give you a window to grab him at bargain base price like a lot of midfielders, and even if he does drop more you'll likely still need cash saved and a good plan in place to grab at the right time because when he does start going North again, he usually does it pretty quick.
no doubt will get dismissed by some on here
Gawn + Comden = $ 814,400.00
Jacobs + Naismith = $ 599,900.00
if you don't start Gawn and don't won't Goldy , Marshall , ROB etc then use Naismith as a cash cow , Comden is no use for the Grundy/Gawn VC/C loophole
Jacobs can go 90+
Given that our bench rookies may not even be named Round 1 and not generate $$$ why not use Naismith who supposedly does have JS.
The $ 200k saved might actually even get a Anderson/Stephens/Serong type at M9 to a F/M like Steven or Smith if just in case a Rowell , Green or Pickett is accidentally dropped
downgrade Naismith , upgrade Jacobs if at the time you still expect Gawn to be in the Top 2 Rucks.
just a thought
Gawn + Comden = $ 814,400.00
Jacobs + Naismith = $ 599,900.00
if you don't start Gawn and don't won't Goldy , Marshall , ROB etc then use Naismith as a cash cow , Comden is no use for the Grundy/Gawn VC/C loophole
Jacobs can go 90+
Given that our bench rookies may not even be named Round 1 and not generate $$$ why not use Naismith who supposedly does have JS.
The $ 200k saved might actually even get a Anderson/Stephens/Serong type at M9 to a F/M like Steven or Smith if just in case a Rowell , Green or Pickett is accidentally dropped
downgrade Naismith , upgrade Jacobs if at the time you still expect Gawn to be in the Top 2 Rucks.
just a thought
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So is this with the mindset of keeping Jacobs long term and passing on Grundy?
What if grundy goes 125+ again, then you have to go through the whole scenario again twice as Grundy will be exactly the same as Gawn? if you plan to keep jacobs I'd be worried about him being rested also. Would need to think about this but on face value it's not something I would be comfortable with.
What if grundy goes 125+ again, then you have to go through the whole scenario again twice as Grundy will be exactly the same as Gawn? if you plan to keep jacobs I'd be worried about him being rested also. Would need to think about this but on face value it's not something I would be comfortable with.
First year I’m starting with the 2 gun rucks,going to be tricky making good cash,so that’s one less headache to deal with. After 10 + years of SuperCoach, I’m still quite prone to making dumb trades. Besides,half the comp will have them,and I won’t have to look at Gawns 130,and wish I’d started with him.