Position Ruck Discussion

Gawndy? NicNat?

  • Yes - Gawndy

    Votes: 38 74.5%
  • Grundy/Other

    Votes: 6 11.8%
  • Gawn/Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Grundy/NicNat

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • Gawn/NicNat

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • NicNat/Other

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • Other combo

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    51
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Thanks for the prices.

Looking like Comben may be this year's Bines based on the draw - Kanga's have a lot of Sunday matches.

Leaning to locking in Gawndy without a second thought, but need to see all the other prices in other positions. Could be better to go for an extra premium elsewhere maybe?
 
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Thoughts on NicNat? Are you expecting him to have minutes managed again next season? I think if I was going to deviate from Gawndy, it would be with NicNat but that’s maybe only a 10% chance of happening.
Yeah he historically only plays about 60% game time. I don’t expect that to change, however we all know he can score just as well as the other top rucks in that 60% game time. He’s just so influential.

It’s more a question of his health and playing every game, which he’s always had trouble doing.

If we could know for sure he’d play all 22 i’d lock him in in a heartbeat, as it’s so much fun having him in your team when he’s fit and firing. But sadly I think he’s too much risk.
 

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Yeah he historically only plays about 60% game time. I don’t expect that to change, however we all know he can score just as well as the other top rucks in that 60% game time. He’s just so influential.

It’s more a question of his health and playing every game, which he’s always had trouble doing.

If we could know for sure he’d play all 22 i’d lock him in in a heartbeat, as it’s so much fun having him in your team when he’s fit and firing. But sadly I think he’s too much risk.
Thanks mate. Thought that might be the case. I reckon he’s gonna be a pretty popular pick next year so it’ll be interesting to see what strategy owners take if he’s too big of a negative POD.
 

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Thanks mate. Thought that might be the case. I reckon he’s gonna be a pretty popular pick next year so it’ll be interesting to see what strategy owners take if he’s too big of a negative POD.
True ... NicNat and maybe Jacobs looking the most appealing alternative she to Grundy and Gawn in my eyes. $240k is a lot of loose change!
 
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Grundy and maybe Nank if he's looking fit - see if there's a way to put that 300k saved on Gawn to use elsewhere.

Are people thinking Marshall won't get any better or will be impacted by Ryder? Could be the best premium POD of the lot.
 
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I will shy away from NicNat because my assessment of his PIT based scores is low. Let me explain.

I assume you do not want to trade each time NicNat is "rested." A defender or a forward has two bench players to cover an absence. A midfielder has three. Typically we look to have the better rookies as bench cover as they await harvesting. Hence they provide good cover if an elite or premium has a short term problem. And a reasonable PIT.

Now, consider who is your ruck reserve. For me last year it was "supersub" from the West Coast. He never played but he was an excellent vice captain. Sure, he was useful to switch with a F/R if necessary. But, I still have bad memories of sticking with Westhoff in the forward line as ruck cover. Never again. The points I had to forego just kept rising (except for round 1). My ruck PIT number was either zero, or negative. Man that hurt. This year I'll go with a low priced F/R whose club plays a lot on Sundays. Comben from North probably.

So set and forget for me. If Grundy or Gawn were to get injured, I can trade down to the next best performing ruck. And, you'll almost certainly have the capacity to make that trade if it is necessary.
 
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Marshall and Nank gives you 400k to play with... could be an extra premo mid from R1...

I didn’t start Grawndy last year, switched English to ROB in R2/3. When I did get them in I basically paid starting price for them.
 

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Marshall and Nank gives you 400k to play with... could be an extra premo mid from R1...

I didn’t start Grawndy last year, switched English to ROB in R2/3. When I did get them in I basically paid starting price for them.
Interesting one - do you regard not starting them as a success in light of playing ROB and so on?
 

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Pretty likely I'll start Grundy & Jacobs. Grundcobs? Feeling right now is that Jacobs can make somewhere near 200K, and is therefore worth the extra trade and points sacrifice to be able to spend 350K elsewhere.
 
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Pretty likely I'll start Grundy & Jacobs. Grundcobs? Feeling right now is that Jacobs can make somewhere near 200K, and is therefore worth the extra trade and points sacrifice to be able to spend 350K elsewhere.
Jacobs won't make 200k quickly enough and might jobshare with Mummy. A playing R3 might make it work and he might make 100k but the plan only has merit if Gawn drops 200k.
 
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I went into last season with Goldstein and English, who quickly became Mumford with ROB at R3. Managed to trade out Mummy at his peak, but it was only 130k profit or so thus not really worth 2 trades.

Went up 30k ranks when Gawndy had the bye and then traded into them when Goldy and ROB had theirs the week later but still paid just about full starting price so nothing gained.

So 4 trades burned and some meagre cash gain to finally get the big guys: this year I'm just starting them.
 
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Interesting one - do you regard not starting them as a success in light of playing ROB and so on?
I think it was about as successful as one would hope (ROB being pretty serviceable) but without being a knockout. I finished alright last year, but I think “having” to get Grawndy in reduced the flexibility of my options around the byes. If a ROB type rookie was available in Rucks this year, I’d have no problem going without one of them.

I think if I’d have stuck with my non-Grawndy combo post-bye it might have served me well too.

TLDR: Success highly depends on the rookies, I basically spent full price on Grawndy anyway, it limited my trading options during the bye AND it have me heart issues pre-bye.
 

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I think it was about as successful as one would hope (ROB being pretty serviceable) but without being a knockout. I finished alright last year, but I think “having” to get Grawndy in reduced the flexibility of my options around the byes. If a ROB type rookie was available in Rucks this year, I’d have no problem going without one of them.

I think if I’d have stuck with my non-Grawndy combo post-bye it might have served me well too.

TLDR: Success highly depends on the rookies, I basically spent full price on Grawndy anyway, it limited my trading options during the bye AND it have me heart issues pre-bye.
Haha - nice of you to write the abridged summary, given the length of some of my posts it would be rude not to read two paragraphs in response to my own question :p

Your explanation makes sense. I'm also looking to pick relatively obvious or stress free options next year, partly because the stress of not owning them/owning others creates unnecessary stress, and partly because it often constrains flexibility.
 
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