Defenders Discussion
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Not too well unfortunately but they do mention he is now training with the main group and 'looking good'. This was from a week ago:
Premiership player Beau Waters is another Eagle who will be closely monitored throughout the pre-season after shoulder surgery.
Like Naitanui, Waters followed his 2012 All Australian season with an injury ravaged 2013. He managed just seven games and required both knee and shoulder surgeries after his last game in round 15.
Waters' recovery has been slower than expected.
"There was some initial post surgery issues that we needed to deal with," Vozzo said.
"We're on top of those. He's on top of them and he's now training with the main group as of this week and looking good.
"Again it was a graduated build up to main training. He's now in that and we'll monitor him very closely because he's a very important player."
http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2013-12-09/softly-softly-for-naitanui
Premiership player Beau Waters is another Eagle who will be closely monitored throughout the pre-season after shoulder surgery.
Like Naitanui, Waters followed his 2012 All Australian season with an injury ravaged 2013. He managed just seven games and required both knee and shoulder surgeries after his last game in round 15.
Waters' recovery has been slower than expected.
"There was some initial post surgery issues that we needed to deal with," Vozzo said.
"We're on top of those. He's on top of them and he's now training with the main group as of this week and looking good.
"Again it was a graduated build up to main training. He's now in that and we'll monitor him very closely because he's a very important player."
http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2013-12-09/softly-softly-for-naitanui
Jarrad McVeigh is the player I am having most difficulty deciding on.
Firstly he is the most expensive defender and rightly so. His yearly averages for the last six years has been 106, 97, 94, 94, 98 and 99. Further he rarely misses a game. He seems like the perfect SC defender: reliable and consistent scorer.
However the other thing I see when I look at those averages is that you are paying for him based on a 106 average when in the previous five years he hovered around the 94 to 99 mark. The cheap skate in me doesn't like paying full price even if the product is exactly what I am looking for.
If I don't pick him I would likely upgrade to him at some stage during the year. However his consistency makes me wonder how much cheaper could I get him and whether it would actually be worth waiting for him or not?
Firstly he is the most expensive defender and rightly so. His yearly averages for the last six years has been 106, 97, 94, 94, 98 and 99. Further he rarely misses a game. He seems like the perfect SC defender: reliable and consistent scorer.
However the other thing I see when I look at those averages is that you are paying for him based on a 106 average when in the previous five years he hovered around the 94 to 99 mark. The cheap skate in me doesn't like paying full price even if the product is exactly what I am looking for.
If I don't pick him I would likely upgrade to him at some stage during the year. However his consistency makes me wonder how much cheaper could I get him and whether it would actually be worth waiting for him or not?
Thought exactly the same when I looked at his previous year scores. We would be paying a premium. My understanding is that with the multiplier, your player needs to score around 9-10% just to stay at the same price. Just can't see him averaging higher than last year. Guess it depends if you're willing to pay for those points and make up the shortfall in price another way.
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If McVeigh is going to play more in def than the mids, I am more inclined not to pick him!!! The midfielders that are classed as backs are what we are trying to find here, so if he is going to spend more time in the back half than last year that is a big con.
But I have to disagree with the points made above, I feel McVeigh will be back spending more time in the mids this year, hence I have him in my starting team (for now)
But I have to disagree with the points made above, I feel McVeigh will be back spending more time in the mids this year, hence I have him in my starting team (for now)
Herald Sun has named usual suspects in their Defenders article.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...reap-the-rewards/story-fni5f3gz-1226785584551
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...reap-the-rewards/story-fni5f3gz-1226785584551
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Sorry, but that defenders article is a bit rubbish. It doesn't talk about S Mitchell at all, who is arguably the first back to be picked. It says don't pick McVeigh because he is too expensive, but likes Bartel and Walker who are the same price. It still rates Heater, and thinks Rhyce Shaw is worth looking at - now I don't know much, but I know that Rhyce Shaw isn't worth looking at!!! (please correct me if I am wrong)