Discussion 2021: Strategy, Team & Player Discussions

[Vicwood]

I Cumming:
Team: GWS
Price: $288,000

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349540298330783746

H Shaw, A Corr and Z Williams have either retired or moved to another club.

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He has registered 15 or more disposals in 3 of his 10 career matches for a SC avg of 85.33 (90+69+97)

Does whitfield get a few more cheap points this year from kick returns.?

 

[Connoisseur]

Gray at 37% is surprising. Butters would need a large increase in CBA to be considered to start in my team RD1.

As always your stats are sensational.

Would love to see him utilised in a run with role (tagger) but the problem is our midfield is a bit one paced with too many contested players that can only play one position and Hinkley's hesitance to change things up early. Looks to have been a beneficiary of the shorter quarters and is not a large accumulator of the ball meaning he will be heavily dependent on efficient usage, tackles and scoring involvements.

 

[Philzsay]

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Why is he going to Adelaide? Did they run out of medico's in Geelong/Melbourne? 🤣

Must have someone he trusts/likes over there.

 

[Darkie]

Share your feeling on Lloyd Dimma. Feels very expensive. Time will tell how much he benefited from shorter quarters vs ball in defence more as the Swans fell away during the year. Happy to have a Gawn or a Neale as they also provide capt option, although expect they both are down 10 points on 2020.

I really like the Gaff pick up, the reverse of Lloyd/Covid impact if we go back to longer quarters. With Tim Kelly an extra year at WCE, he should improve as he understands our system better, which could see him get tagged more over Gaff.

The $500k is littered with promise, Cripps, Walsh, Rowell - are you tempted by the last two? would love to hear any insights.

Heeney hasn't made my team, too reliant on a good Swans outfit and buddy playing to get to the right scoring level. If he was in the midfield it would be a different story.

Like the BB pick. Could be 30 under vs Jezza 20 under. Jezza though may just get to a sub premium level which justifies keeping him. Adelaide, Hawks and North in 1st 5 games looks promising.

Preuss the hard one. Naismith was a winner last year week 1 (which you nailed) however the 2 months break was not kind to this strategy.

Not sure if you have a view on this, but does NN reverting to low TOG have an impact on particular WC mids’ scoring?

NicNat hit 80% TOG in a game last year. That hadn’t happened since 2015. He played very well too.

 

[Manikato1]

Not sure if you have a view on this, but does NN reverting to low TOG have an impact on particular WC mids’ scoring?

NicNat hit 80% TOG in a game last year. That hadn’t happened since 2015. He played very well too.

What was his TOG before last year @Darkie because 80% of a 16 minute quarter is about the same as 65% of a 20 min quarter.

 

[Connoisseur]

What was his TOG before last year @Darkie because 80% of a 16 minute quarter is about the same as 65% of a 20 min quarter.

 

[Darkie]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1352778030775603201

Interesting - is this one of those updates that sounds like a positive but might actually be a negative?

 

[Darkie]

If you wanted to see more on this, the section shown on the news is linked here.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1352887755890593792

Good piece, thank you.

There might be nothing in it, but I didn’t see this as overly compelling in terms of Ziebell’s role switch being locked in and something he was pumped about - “floated”, “entertained”, trialing, limited eye contact and so on.

He’s a close watch for me but my gut feel is this might have more risk around it than the piece might have intended to communicate.

 

[Darkie]

Haha - just read the post from @Manikato1 with quotes from Noble. Might have been onto something

 

[Manikato1]

Haha - just read the post from @Manikato1 with quotes from Noble. Might have been onto something

Should have posted the link in the original comments.

Transcript: Member Q & A - David Noble (nmfc.com.au)

 

[Manikato1]

On the question of Ziebell the issue for me became this. Heeney is 454k and will probably ave 95 ish. If Ziebell can go an ave 90 at 257k then you give up 5ppg but get 200k to use elsewhere. If that can be used to upgrade to an uber premium like a Gawn or Neale then that upgrade will probably get you a lot more than 5ppg. And in 2019 Ziebell scored 6 games above 120 so there is nothing wrong with his ceiling in the right circumstances. It has me mulling the value of Heeney who is 90's ave guaranteed but where is the upside for that extra 200k.

 

[Wolffy84]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...d/news-story/ed4770f87ff0663a8cd6b81b14cc2644

Just the one formal preseason game and one 'choose your own rules' match. Going to be impossible to figure out what is real and what isn't this preseason.

 

[Under The Dome]

I Cumming:
Team: GWS
Price: $288,000

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349540298330783746

H Shaw, A Corr and Z Williams have either retired or moved to another club.

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He has registered 15 or more disposals in 3 of his 10 career matches for a SC avg of 85.33 (90+69+97)

Would be interesting to see the last round when Corr was dropped for already being out the door and Cummings actually come back in whether he took the kick ins. He was already picked in my team because I remembered he took them early in the year.

 

[Under The Dome]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...d/news-story/ed4770f87ff0663a8cd6b81b14cc2644

Just the one formal preseason game and one 'choose your own rules' match. Going to be impossible to figure out what is real and what isn't this preseason.

I'd say this is a blessing . Only need to know whether someone was fit enough to play/ or reinjured for mine. Don't need those Parish/Macpherson traps in preseason games.

 

[BIGB0Y]

Looking forward to the cash leagues this year. Been part of it for the last 3 years, makes it all so much more entertaining.

 

[Eagling]

I think 1 pre-season game also indicates that if a rookie doesn't play the pre-season game but plays Round 1, lock them in.

 

[GrainFedBeef]

Not sure if you have a view on this, but does NN reverting to low TOG have an impact on particular WC mids’ scoring?

NicNat hit 80% TOG in a game last year. That hadn’t happened since 2015. He played very well too.

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They did have more confidence giving NN extra time late in the season. Expect they would do similar, build up into finals. Likely the 69% average 60-65% this year with the reversion to 20min quarters, still better than last few season. Wouldn't look back on 2015 which was prior to ACL's.

Does it impact mids? somewhat. remember NN has an ability to rove his own ball, think Shuey is the main beneficiary of his taps, Kelly as well. Don't see it impacting Gaff, although haven't seen his hit out receives.

NN stats
Hitouts To Advantage – 8.5
Total Clearances – 5.6
Inside 50s – 3.6
2020 AFL statistical rankings:
2nd: Hitouts
2nd: Score launches
3rd: Hitouts to advantage
3rd: Centre clearances
3rd: Total clearances
5th: Contested possession rate
6th: Hitout Win Percentage
10th: Stoppage clearances

 

[randomcliche]

In the Roos Camp who is shaping up as Goldies #2.?

Good question.

My opinion only but I cant see Xerri playing with Goldy too often so I expect a combination of Larkey, Walker and Zurhaar to take the 2 minutes each qtr that Goldy is on the Pine

Is Tom Campbell a viable donut to play(ruck)? Or is he more a break glass in case of emergency?

 

[Mudflap]

Is Tom Campbell a viable donut to play(ruck)? Or is he more a break glass in case of emergency?

break glass in case of emergency

 

[GrainFedBeef]

Gets the tick of approval from me, mainly due to using all available cash. Nothing to complain about in the defence and the mid structure seems fine.

Replace Sidebottom with Dunkley or Dusty. Nice to see a side with Flanders but concerned with the structure up forward if we don't receive the required amount of fwd rookies.

whats your thoughts on Sidebottom vs Dunkley. Dunks hard to pin down where he plays. Last year forward he had some good scores and also some 80-90's, thinking he was thrown around a bit. Sidebottom benefits from no Treloar. He is 30, although, not the bump and crash type player.