Position SC 2021: Forward Discussion

Which ‘keepers’ are you planning on starting with?

  • Dangerfield

    Votes: 44 63.8%
  • Sidebottom

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dunkley

    Votes: 38 55.1%
  • Zorko

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Dusty

    Votes: 22 31.9%
  • Heeney

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • Greene

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • De Goey

    Votes: 8 11.6%
  • Phillips

    Votes: 19 27.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 10.1%

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I am actually finding Ziebell , Daniher & Impey a awkward price now (along with 6-8 onfield rookies) as it is making me look at too many of the $ 300-350k options + Cumming/Young etc which probably all need upgrading anyway.

Still like Heeney but might be still able to get him for a similar price at upgrade time
Yeah fielding, Zieb, Daniher, Campbell, Imprey, Dow, Cox takes up a huge amount of extra cash. I can only field 11 premos + Green, Heppell, Harmes with those expensive rookies. Or 12 If I combine Heppell with someone which is an option, right now my team is focusing on cash generation and actual likely round1 cash cows.
 
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Yeah fielding, Zieb, Daniher, Campbell, Imprey, Dow, Cox takes up a huge amount of extra cash. I can only field 11 premos + Green, Heppell, Harmes with those expensive rookies. Or 12 If I combine Heppell with someone which is an option, right now my team is focusing on cash generation and actual likely round1 cash cows.
Certainly interesting playing around with different combinations.

Heeney , Ziebell , Daniher , Impey still gives me 5-7 other onfield rookies.

Harmes , Cumming , Young types (looks like 8-12 under $ 300k that could work or fail) still need upgrading.

Tried the 5 premium starting defence , mid price defence.

Cripps at M1 with Green , Caldwell , Hately , Heppell , Sier etc etc etc

Now experimenting with Flynn at R2.

Just will keep juggling , need to.follow the rookies.
 
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Certainly interesting playing around with different combinations.

Heeney , Ziebell , Daniher , Impey still gives me 5-7 other onfield rookies.

Harmes , Cumming , Young types (looks like 8-12 under $ 300k that could work or fail) still need upgrading.

Tried the 5 premium starting defence , mid price defence.

Cripps at M1 with Green , Caldwell , Hately , Heppell , Sier etc etc etc

Now experimenting with Flynn at R2.

Just will keep juggling , need to.follow the rookies.
I am looking at something like...

Lloyd, Laird, McDonald, Williams, Harmes, Cox - 2x rookies
Fyfe, Kelly, Cripps, Walsh, Green, Heppell, Campbell, Gulden - 3x rookies
Gawn, Grundy - rookie
Dangerfield, Ziebell, Daniher, Imprey, Dow, Henry - 2x rookies

At the moment. Planning for in case the cheap rookies don't turn up.
Probably to much injury risk in that team for some but I am thinking about rolling the dice.
 
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I am looking at something like...

Lloyd, Laird, McDonald, Williams, Harmes, Cox - 2x rookies
Fyfe, Kelly, Cripps, Walsh, Green, Heppell, Campbell, Gulden - 3x rookies
Gawn, Grundy - rookie
Dangerfield, Ziebell, Daniher, Imprey, Dow, Henry - 2x rookies

At the moment. Planning for in case the cheap rookies don't turn up.
Probably to much injury risk in that team for some but I am thinking about rolling the dice.
That's actually looks very well balanced (and realistic)

I will find it hard to resist Fyfe personally as well.

11 premiums counting Williams.

Green , Harmes , Heppell could (should) be 80+ at least

Ziebell , Daniher , Impey , Dow

+ 4 onfield rookies

I guess starting Danger as a mid is worthwhile if more forward rookies seem to be the way to go.

Very strong setup
 
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Is Nick Hind an option?

Essendon really need a pacey rebounder now with Saad leaving. Can Hind intercept mark also?
Any Bombers fans think he is value at 330k in the Fwd line?
I like Hind but not sure there is enough ball to go around. Ridley is still the top dog, Heppell will definitely demand a fair share of it also. Hind in his first year in the role to me seems more like the McKenna replacement than Saad. Think they'll try and be a bit more deliberate out of defense using Heppell and Ridley personally, Saad as exciting as he was for the Bombers was also a liability very often and makes it incredibly hard on forwards by overrunning their leads.

Really like Hind but at 330 there's not a lot of room outside keeper land given how many juicy looking rookie options are available instead.


Agreed, I've already dropped Impey and Ziebell probably next if we keep getting fwd rookie confirmations.
Ziebell has too much upside potential for me to not take him. Has hit genuine premium numbers twice, ballpark from his starting price another couple of times and 200k+ cash generation in the 7 seasons prior to last year and he's playing role that may very well be better for SC purposes.

He's a guy who is genuinely worth paying the premium for, imo, because there is legitimate keeper potential and in 31% of teams would mean you've basically spotted a rookie keeper to a third of teams if you're going against him.

He's basically got injury as the only realistic alternative outcome to a successful starting pick.
 
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Agree, that's why he's in my team :)
Yeah, I think with someone like Ziebell you don't over think it.
Prior to getting injured in 2020 he'd missed only 4 games in 5 years and averaged 89 across that entire period. He's moving to a much less bash-and-crash position at HB where we can make use of his 200 game footy brain and strong marking before gently putting him out to pasture.

Same thing goes for Heppel really. Before 2020 he played all but 6 games in 5 years and averaged 101. He's only 28 and when fit is still one of the better players in his side. Think I might need to find a way to put him back in :unsure:
 
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People trying this are braver (I think that's the word I want) than me...
Just depends on how many rookies you want to have onfield compared to $ 200-400k players , eventually they all probably need upgrading.

I guess you then ideally to have a even spread across the different lines.

This allows

D6: Butts
M8: Taranto (same price as Heeney so could swap out)
R2: Flynn

I guess if people are thinking he can score 75-80 ish then he seems more valuable onfield.

The thing though is if he misses a game can you get adequate F/R cover or D/R cover.

Reading comments about mid rookies some are confident we get them from M6-8 , while others aren't so sure.

Just need to keep shuffling the players around until we get that combination that we are happy to start with.
 
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Love Rayner's potential but it's just hard to see the role. Clug, Neale, Lyon and Berry all still clearly ahead of him, Zorko I guess could swap roles and open the chance and the talent is absolutely there.

He definitely could work and I'm looking forward to being tempted when I watch him as I really rate him, very much in the Petracca hasn't built an engine but if he does his skillset is just pure SC goodness.
When his body changes the same way Trac's did I might look at him.
 
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Just depends on how many rookies you want to have onfield compared to $ 200-400k players , eventually they all probably need upgrading.

I guess you then ideally to have a even spread across the different lines.

This allows

D6: Butts
M8: Taranto (same price as Heeney so could swap out)
R2: Flynn

I guess if people are thinking he can score 75-80 ish then he seems more valuable onfield.

The thing though is if he misses a game can you get adequate F/R cover or D/R cover.

Reading comments about mid rookies some are confident we get them from M6-8 , while others aren't so sure.

Just need to keep shuffling the players around until we get that combination that we are happy to start with.
Don't think you need to go that deep in mids. Will be at least 2 fieldable mid rookies and that cash spent forward or back creates more flexibility on options to can bring in later.
 
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Don't think you need to go that deep in mids. Will be at least 2 fieldable mid rookies and that cash spent forward or back creates more flexibility on options to can bring in later.
I'm not remotely phased on forwards or mids. Looks like there will be a solid 10 forward rookies right now and a good 8 mids (counting DPP guys in both). All of my unconventional structures right now are designed around no back rookies appearing.
 
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Don't think you need to go that deep in mids. Will be at least 2 fieldable mid rookies and that cash spent forward or back creates more flexibility on options to can bring in later.
Yeah maybe

Not sure on Dow or Powell , don't think we see any of the 6 common $ 123,900.00 guys Round 1.

Might slide Campbell in their at M8 and see how that looks.

Flynn at R2 is looking more and more appealing.

Have about 15 names between $ 200-300 in defence I am looking at for D5 , but think maybe Harmes is a better option their so maybe a Lloyd , Laird , Stewart , Clark/Duggan/McEvoy/Williams , Harmes D1-D5 setup.
 
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So aside from ZDID these appear the more common forward rookies mentioned (may have missed a few)

Williams F/R
Campbell F/M
Jones
Cox D/F
Perkins F/M
Cahill
Chandler
Warner
Jarvis D/F
Kelly
Henry
Fullarton F/R
Macrae F/M
Worrell D/F
Madden D/F
Cockatoo F/M
Smith , E F/M
Jones
Evans
Bergman
Ralphsmith F/M
Rowe
Durdin F/M
Brockman F/M
Laurie D/F
Ford
Spicer F/M
McLeod-Allison
Chugg D/F
Treacy F/R
Scott F/M
Waterman
 
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