Strategy Round 3: Trades

[Ormos]

Happy with the rookies i have as nailed basically all of them.

Either phillips (think more annoyance with him) to Text/Impey.
Or
Caldwell to Tex/Impey

 

[Herbie66]

I've got Powell, Berry, Meek and Rowe on the bench this round post trades... complimented by playing but not booming Kozi, Sharp, Scott and Fullerton. My experience so far is that the cash generation is out there, but as you say not everyone is that fortunate. And, when I get an additional 3 donuts this round I might stop singing this tune... The bigger issue might be whether enough second round rookies show up at the right time. Chapman, I'm looking at you.

I am trying to work Berry & Powell to my bench and hope they make enough $$$ to be viable downgrade options.

Koschitzke , Sharp , McNeil (?) , Fyfe 🍩 , Hunter , Fullarton , Scott all don't look inspiring at the moment , maybe that changes in Round 3.

Rowe could be 1 game away from getting dropped.

Interesting to see how Campbell , Gulden , McDonald & Warner cope with Richmond this week , might get a "welcome to the Big League reaction"

Hopefully the "poorer" bench options keep playing until Round 8 and then the new wave appears.

 

[Quarterback]

hahaha that looks familiar 😀

and the majority of those are onfield

where are your "booming" rookies on the bench that are actually going to make the necessary dollars to fund all the upgrades ?

Well ideally you should have started with 13 prems, those "onfield" rookies are who u need to upgrade first, there's 6 quality cows that get you 3 to 4 prems by round 8-9
Anyway I feel like i'm being interrogated lol, if you don't agree that this years cash cow situation is in our favour, mate do what you like with your under performing prems.
At this stage if your correct trading it should be the mid pricers that you were wrong with, not your top scorers who have had a bad couple weeks. I'm confident Neale repays me in leaps and bounds.

 

[AngryAnt]

2 rookie corrections this week, I’ll worry about them later. Taranto at least showed he could accidentally ton up last week.

Taranto was top scorer at 1/4 time on the weekend, he basically died with the rest of his team after that. I was expecting lower scoring games from him anyway, I just think GWS might be struggling a bit this year.

 

[whiteTiga2k]

Aren't you restructuring if you do that? Taranto was picked as a keeper, while Tex is a mid price cash cow who will need to be retraded once he has made cash. This means you are using a minimum of 2 trades on a spot where you originally planned for zero. While Tex is a good money maker, dont bugger up your team by forcing a trade when trying to get him in.

Very sensible thinking - rational... and kinda helped me decide against Neale to Tex haha... so its now... Neale to Titch, Boak, Mills or Ridley...

 

[Herbie66]

Well ideally you should have started with 13 prems, those "onfield" rookies are who u need to upgrade first, there's 6 quality cows that get you 3 to 4 prems by round 8-9
Anyway I feel like i'm being interrogated lol, if you don't agree that this years cash cow situation is in our favour, mate do what you like with your under performing prems.
At this stage if your correct trading it should be the mid pricers that you were wrong with, not your top scorers who have had a bad couple weeks. I'm confident Neale repays me in leaps and bounds.

I totally agree that the onfield rookies are brilliant so far , no argument their.

Just don't feel over confident (like others have posted) about the bench rookies making the $$$ so you can then downgrade them and upgrade the onfield ones at the right time.

I started 13 premiums (traded Dangerfield to Heeney) + Fantasia & Ziebell so have 7 of the best 12 rookies onfield.

Can't recall mentioning under performing premiums , didn't start Neale for obvious reasons , but if I did I certainly wouldn't be trading him out after 2 rounds

Good luck

 

[Nathan]

hahaha that looks familiar 😀

and the majority of those are onfield

where are your "booming" rookies on the bench that are actually going to make the necessary dollars to fund all the upgrades ?

To be fair, I have Highmore, Brockman, Powell, Rowe & (will have) Jordon/Berry on my bench. This is a better bench crop than last few seasons.

 

[BomberSam]

Is Tom Atkins a potential keeper?

 

[Herbie66]

To be fair, I have Highmore, Brockman, Powell, Rowe & (will have) Jordon/Berry on my bench. This is a better bench crop than last few seasons.

3-4 that are averaging 60+ at this stage , so again hardly "booming"

You actually could be better off than the majority

hopefully for everyone's sake all the bench rookies go boom

 

[BomberSam]

Looking at options for Caldwell. Got enough cash to get Butters but he really doesn't appeal to me.

Looking at:

Tex (of course)
Atkins
Impey
Berry

 

[Yasi]

With good cash generation this year with the rookies, I think it is crazy trading out your under performing premium players after round 2.
If you think Neale will average 90 this year and not be a top 10 mid, by all means pull the trigger, but he wont average 90, will be more like 110-115. Cripps same boat, started slow but is one game away from bursting the dam wall and having a 5 round 130 ave.
If rookies were not generating $$ and we needed every cent to count, yeah I understand the trade/s, but this year will be like no other, rookies are booming and there will be teams with full of uber premiums on each line. Those that sideways trade now will be the ones that won't benefit.
There's 23 rounds this season with 30 trades, will be injuries to key players, don't waste your petrol early putting the foot the floor.

Nice post.

Just curious who are the bench rookies that are booming ?

Koschitzke , Sharp
McNeil , Scott
Hunter
Fullarton , Jones

etc etc

Flynn will make money but is probably wasted at R3 at this stage.

don't look booming to me , well and good having the standard ones onfield , but still need the majority of bench rookies to be able to make $ 150k each as well to actually then afford upgrades.

Which rookies are booming?

Gulden, Campbell, Warner Flynn, Highmore, sure, not sure which others you are referring to.

I had 6 rookies, which are probably on the more popular side score sub 40 on the weekend, not sure there is much cash to be made from them in the short-term, unless things improve.

Interesting discussion. For mine the rookies are looking very strong as short term JS seems ok for most. They don't all have to make $ 150 K by round six to provide for a strong herd of upgrade cows.

After 2 rounds looking at short term JS from the popular crop my guess is:

Excellent: Flynn, Jordon, Gulden, Campbell, Warner, Highmore, Powell, Rowe, Berry
Good: Meek, Brockman, Kossi, Scott, McDonald, Bergman, Jones, Cox, Butts
Questionable: Hunter, Sharp, McNeil

Sure I've missed a few plus a couple more debuted on the weekend. Seems more than strong enough depth of decent JS cows.

 

[AngryAnt]

He's playing Collingwood can't be that bad. Surely ***an has been in his ear about resilience. Think he should tell him not to wear his brownlow during the game, as it can get heavy. 😜

I just want him to continue to fail so I can pick him up in the $500ks

 

[Shaunpro1]

Is Tom Atkins a potential keeper?

Probably not but his ownership baffled me, was one of my first picked, half back in a strong side under 300K in 2% of sides?

 

[Drew]

Will probably pull the trigger on Neale, Round 2 corrections are normally for rookies but something doesn’t feel quite right with Neale at the moment and a very sideways trade to Brayshaw nets nearly $180k. Probably worth the trade right now. Other than that Warner in for Oliver Henry via DPP.

 

[whiteTiga2k]

Probably not but his ownership baffled me, was one of my first picked, half back in a strong side under 300K in 2% of sides?

hehe i actually did that with Clark - and Atkins was one of my last... though I am pretty happy with it for now. Can still see some hope in Clark too.

 

[McLovin]

Probably not but his ownership baffled me, was one of my first picked, half back in a strong side under 300K in 2% of sides?

His scoring seems a bit random, I thought he'd be more in the Bews/O'Connor category. Being in a strong side hasn't helped them SC wise.

 

[BomberSam]

I'm trying to work out if Caldwell to Tex is worth the trade. FWIW, I had Caldwell down as a keeper. Not everyone will agree with that, but that's my thinking.

So Caldwell to Tex results in:

-1 trade
-1 keeper

+50k

Worst case scenario, Tex makes 100k (ish) and it probably wasn't worth the trade.

Best case scenario we can straight swap him with a fallen premo. Normally upgrading to a keeper costs 2 trades (one up, one down). With the ability to sideways him straight to a keeper without first downgrading would save a trade, however I would already down the initial trade (Caldwell to Tex) so it evens out.

With little lost or gained from the trade, is the only gain for my team some stronger on field scoring? I am not confident Tex will score much higher than the standard rookie (60) in the majority of games.

I have confused myself with the pros and cons. Is anyone who is around the mathematical side of things able to help me understand what needs to happen in order for the Caldwell to Tex trade to be a success? I.e. Tex averages X amount of points or makes X amount of cash.

Thank you so much. This trade feels dirty but if I can see it in terms of a quantifiable over/under type scenario, I'll be able to make a much more informed decision.

 

[scarfaceclaw]

Stuff it. No impey for me. Very quick check says that's his fourth 100 in 123 games!

Brockman and Berry for Fullarton and Scott.

I like it when trades don't make my side worse.

 

[frosty1]

IF Walker scores 60 for the next 3 weeks you can probably buy Caldwell back (if you rate him a keeper), and have 100k to turn a mooing cow into a premo at the same time. (Assuming it will all line up with Caldwell returning from injury)

 

[pizza safety]

Biggest concerns: 1) Cripps 2) Taranto 3) Sharp/Fullarton/Scott

I have all of the cheap rookies and all my trades and I'm keen to get rid of Cripps and perhaps Taranto as well

Two options I'm looking at:

A) Cripps & Taranto for Tex and Titch - leaves 87k in the bank
B) Cripps & Fullarton for Jack Bowes and Impey - leaves 6k in the bank

Taranto can turn it around but I'm concerned that after how poor they played yesterday that there's something very wrong with GWS and I don't want two of their midfielders in my side.