Strategy Round 6: Trades

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I'm contemplating Josh Kelly out for Luke Ryan, and in doing so, I avoid a donut in defence. Is a sideways trade more viable saving a donut? :unsure:
THink it depends on a lot of things... ranking? if thats what you are interested in? long game? or league position.

I would probably look at completing a side first before that. In saying that though - before Ryan ripped out the 130+ i thought about trading him to get in Grundy.
 
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Yeah, probably true. Definitely depends on your team. My problem with ending up with those three as my D6-8 is that it's hard to see when I can extricate myself from the spot. When is one of them going to be a good trade out? At least with Chapman at D6 if he turns out to be a 50 player from here he is a tradeable price already. If Mansell goes at 50s from here (and Kosi reverts to his previous levels or gets dropped) you might be waiting till the byes before even one of them is a half-decent trade-out option. That's a long time to carry that kind of weakness at the end of the DEF line.
Us in the donut d6-d8 position may need to look to Daniel in a few weeks
 
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Hey guys
I’m trading Taranto this week regardless of anything haha
all week I’ve planned to bring in Oliver followed by Lloyd next week

But dependant on teams if Clark and highmore aren’t playing I’m copping a donut in defense. I copped one last week and still rose heavily in ranks up to 1200. I want to rank as high as possible so would it be worth going early on lloyd to avoid the donut? he’s 596k and will drop to 550k isnt in great form but will definitely be a top 2 defender. Only issue would be that I may be tight on funds to do
Gulden and Warner to f Macrae and Oliver next week.

Team right now

Docherty short laird Stewart Chapman Clark?
Highmore parks

Bont titch Merrett Macrae Taranto? Gulden Powell jordon
Berry brockman a Fyfe

Gawn Grundy Flynn

Dunkley dusty ziebell impey Warner Bergman
Rowe waterman

Team would be for this week with 55k in the bank to do Warner gulden to Oliver f Macrae next week

Lloyd Docherty laird short Stewart Chapman

Bont Macrae Merrett titch Dusty gulden Powell jordon

Gawn Grundy

Dunkley ziebell impey Warner Bergman rowe

Teams not named and I’m already worried
 

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ROUND 6 - PRE TRADES

DEF: J Lloyd, R Laird, T Stewart, J Short, J Clark, J Koschitzke (T Highmore, J Ridley)
MID: J Macrae, N Fyfe, C Oliver, Z Merrett, E Gulden, T Powell, B Campbell, S Berry (L McNeil, A Scott, A Fyfe)
RUC: M Gawn, B Grundy (M Flynn)
FWD: J Dunkley, J Ziebell, J Impey, C Warner, J Rowe, M Bergman (A Waterman, T Fullarton)

$37,200
26 Trades


TRADES:
Patrick Dangerfield ---> Josh Dunkley

So, the first trade is pretty simple and will be locked in tonight. Whether I use a second trade is the question, with Lachie Jones no longer an option and it appearing like Clark and Highmore aren't going to be of assistance down in DEF.

Would appreciate thoughts on whether to trade Clark/Berry to Mansell this week.

It covers the DEF donut this week (which isn't the main worry), and at least offers me another option going forward at D6 if Clark/Highmore continued to not be picked as a loop with Koschitzke. Furthermore, the extra trade this week might help to get me into the upgrade cycle.

However, even so I might only have $550K to work with for the upgrade if I was to go say Clark and Campbell, to Finlay Macrae and a premium.

Whatever way I look at things, it's not a pretty outlook. Would really appreciate some late thoughts.
 
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Team looks a bit like mine (and a lot of others I guess) down back. If Jordan Clark is not named he's out for Mansell - can't have that amount of cash sitting around generating donuts, otherwise he can stay and score another 60 odd.

I tried to see if you could go Clark + Danger -> two 'nearly' premiums but the best I could wrangle was Freoshaw and Hunter Clark :confused:.
Doesn't quite seem worth the two trades and I think you'd be better off with a gun mid and a downgrade.
Hey mate,

The way I see it based on who you currently have on field the following are possibly 0's Clark, Highmore (plus Ridley and Sharp) I guess you will know tonight about Clark, but let's say for now 2 0's on DEF line. MID, given Gulden plays no 0's, but no bench with Scott on field for Berry. FWD possible 1 0 if Campbell is rested although it is possible Fullarton comes in if McInerney misses.

The other problem I guess is you have no cash with only 38k, but Danger's value is valuable.

I really don't know, but I think if selection goes your way and Campbell plays I would nealy go Danger to 'Keeper' DEF (Ryan, Rich etc) and Clark to Mansell to give your some cash to work with next week.
Cheers both! Sweating on team announcements and then can hopefully see a clear path forward..
 
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ROUND 6 - PRE TRADES

DEF: J Lloyd, R Laird, T Stewart, J Short, J Clark, J Koschitzke (T Highmore, J Ridley)
MID: J Macrae, N Fyfe, C Oliver, Z Merrett, E Gulden, T Powell, B Campbell, S Berry (L McNeil, A Scott, A Fyfe)
RUC: M Gawn, B Grundy (M Flynn)
FWD: J Dunkley, J Ziebell, J Impey, C Warner, J Rowe, M Bergman (A Waterman, T Fullarton)

$37,200
26 Trades


TRADES:
Patrick Dangerfield ---> Josh Dunkley

So, the first trade is pretty simple and will be locked in tonight. Whether I use a second trade is the question, with Lachie Jones no longer an option and it appearing like Clark and Highmore aren't going to be of assistance down in DEF.

Would appreciate thoughts on whether to trade Clark/Berry to Mansell this week.

It covers the DEF donut this week (which isn't the main worry), and at least offers me another option going forward at D6 if Clark/Highmore continued to not be picked as a loop with Koschitzke. Furthermore, the extra trade this week might help to get me into the upgrade cycle.

However, even so I might only have $550K to work with for the upgrade if I was to go say Clark and Campbell, to Finlay Macrae and a premium.

Whatever way I look at things, it's not a pretty outlook. Would really appreciate some late thoughts.
I feel your pain, my team, trades remaining and cash are extremely similar!
 

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I feel your pain, my team, trades remaining and cash are extremely similar!
Yeah, I actually feel the team is reasonably alright on paper.

Held Dangerfield, got through ok points wise, but then hit with the injury on his return.

And missed being able to bring in Chapman by about $6K which has killed both on field wise with points, and even more-so cash generation wise. Was heavily dependant on Lachie Jones being my no Chapman get out of jail free card.
 
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Geez the Danger trade has me seriously stumped this week. Can make a case for 8 or so different options and having a lot of trouble narrowing them down!
Could trade for value and pocket some cash to help future upgrades.. aim for a clear top player across any position.. try and split the difference.. or just curl up in a ball and cry. Leaning towards the last one..

On a serious note, I've probably narrowed it down to Oliver, Neale, Ryan, Dusty as the "top few" for their positions, or Hind, Freo Brayshaw, Bolton as some of the value picks.. or Sidebottom, Zorko, TGreene as something a little in between.

Would love any thoughts or ideas - open to anything and not overly fussed if I have 1 donut down back (may bring in Mansell if I'd have too but waiting on teams tonight and a decision on the Danger trade).

Cheers!

Ps. I've used 4 trades and have 38k in the bank if that matters.

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Similar situation to me, I'm looking at a combined 996k for Clark/Danger +90k cash and am thinking I might bring in Sidebottom/Zorko + Maynard/Crisp.
With only 30k cash your options are far more limited though unfortunately!
I would be switching Danger's money/replacement to the forwards though to try to loop a rookie there, as the scores for forward rookies have seemingly been far more hit or miss.
 
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ROUND 6 - PRE TRADES

DEF: J Lloyd, R Laird, T Stewart, J Short, J Clark, J Koschitzke (T Highmore, J Ridley)
MID: J Macrae, N Fyfe, C Oliver, Z Merrett, E Gulden, T Powell, B Campbell, S Berry (L McNeil, A Scott, A Fyfe)
RUC: M Gawn, B Grundy (M Flynn)
FWD: J Dunkley, J Ziebell, J Impey, C Warner, J Rowe, M Bergman (A Waterman, T Fullarton)

$37,200
26 Trades


TRADES:
Patrick Dangerfield ---> Josh Dunkley

So, the first trade is pretty simple and will be locked in tonight. Whether I use a second trade is the question, with Lachie Jones no longer an option and it appearing like Clark and Highmore aren't going to be of assistance down in DEF.

Would appreciate thoughts on whether to trade Clark/Berry to Mansell this week.

It covers the DEF donut this week (which isn't the main worry), and at least offers me another option going forward at D6 if Clark/Highmore continued to not be picked as a loop with Koschitzke. Furthermore, the extra trade this week might help to get me into the upgrade cycle.

However, even so I might only have $550K to work with for the upgrade if I was to go say Clark and Campbell, to Finlay Macrae and a premium.

Whatever way I look at things, it's not a pretty outlook. Would really appreciate some late thoughts.
Yeah mate your bench is tricky. I've used 1 more trade but also 'corrected' Highmore. If he is not named this week, and you think Clark has cash to make consider biting the bullet and getting in Mansel for Highmore. Frawley on the return soon doesn't help his JS. Just treat Highmore as a bubble boy if he is ever named. The fact he went straight to not on emergency list suggests he is not knocking the door down for a game (injury last week not withstanding).
 
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Yes you wouldn't ideally want 2 def rookies on field. So basically you would expect Chapman or Mansell will be a common D6 starter. Chapman 54 last round, Mansell 50. It may not end up being a huge "penalty" starting Mansell.
Chapman scored 86 and 91 in rd 2 and 3, definitely good enough to play on field.
 
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Who would you get rid of this week if you had to choose one - Warner or Gulden?

I’m personally leaning towards Warner because the return of Rowbottom could reduce his CBAs and scoring potential.
My answer is neither this week. Would love that week to see what Warner's role is with Rowy back but have to agree he's more likely to be negatively impacted. Also think he's less likely to be rested though and my personal opinion was he showed more than Rowy has in a couple of years over the last month and should hold the spot but I often disagree massively with Horse so take very little from that as I tend to value players who attack the game and make the team better and Horse tends to hate that.

Gulden I think the last few weeks is more in line with his scoring moving forward, I'll be honest his first couple of games vastly exceeded my expectations but I still think they're close to the two best on field rookies right now so it's really hard to cut them and Gulden's shown some big scoring ability.

GC have actually been a real bogie team for us the last couple of years so will certainly be a tough game, especially without Hickey who has been so vital to our success.


I have been tossing up trading in Treacy too and I'm leaning not to, because cash generation is a problem and Treacy looks like a low scorer and with poor job security.
Mansell, the same low price as Treacy, is expected to make more money then Treacy, which seems the best way to go for me.
Unless you see a better option on the immediate horizon, I find it kind of hard to see a better option than Treacy for that pick. He's playing, could make genuine cash with a decent game and is rock bottom priced with DPP. As far as a guy who ends up deadwood, he's the perfect option at a position that is often deadwood.

It would have been multiple 70s if it weren't late game goals in the last two weeks. He's not going to kick the sealer and the winning goal every week.
I actually find this to be a bit lazy with Kelly. The fittest guy on the field scoring well in the 4th quarter to me is more of an expectation than a fluke, especially when he's hiding in a lower capacity role for the earlier parts to save him for that exact thing. His scoring patterns aren't ideal but I think there's a reason he was the guy hitting that ball at full speed while everyone else is standing still or why he's the guy gut running into the clear to kick the sealer and it's not just luck based.

That said, the closeness of the game definitely helps the weighting and his role and scoring are both not ideal. I struggle to see a scenario where him averaging even 85 from here has him as the on field guy that is costing you the most points and thus should be a high priority upgrade and, let's be honest, if that is the scenario you've already won the 50k :LOL:
 
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