2022: AFL SC Player Discussions

[Vicwood]

It’s was one of the two. When I was watching Darcy towards the end of last year I was shattered I didn’t have him. Might be a big call on the big fella but he will be number one ruck at the end.

Yes the lad put some big games together. I will mess around with structure to start both him and Grundy. All depends on the rookies,.DEF line looks a concern at this early tiime.

 

[BIGB0Y]

If you running Pruess at R2 you need cover R/F in the FWD Line.

Jackson & Ladhams stand out at this early time.

Why do you need a R/F? It sort of defeats the purpose of starting a
cheaper ruck. Save the cash to have better premo’s.

 

[Vicwood]

So a quick glance at players that interest me, only looking at guys I think are value right now as those are the ones to watch, I know what Lloyd, Oliver and the likes bring to the table and the rookies will select themselves...

Backs

Starting from <85. Bolding the best of the bunch.

Z. Williams - Out of position and was absurdly unfit, will need to look fit for me to care and be playing down back. Watching though.
Bowes - The way he started last year still a memory. Probably not enough in the reward column given durability and scoring risk but watching.
Saad - Battled injuries all last year, definitely watching.
Siciliy - Obviously but I think too many chefs now with literally a half dozen guys capable of 100+ all scrapping.
Powell/Lukosius - Probably similar to Bowes, if Lukosius were to move forward it would definitely make the other two more relevant.
Howe - Will at least watch but the injuries are stacking up now.
Young - Very interested in him, elite prospect who would be a surprise to me if he doesn't put up multiple premium seasons off HB, not sure if next year is too early. Durability has also been a concern.
Haynes - Dreadful positioning early, struggled with injury coming back, lot fo value there.
Ash - Similar to Young.
Quaynor - Depends on Crisp/Maynard but he can rebound.
Clark - Need some certainty on position/role but he's too talented to waste.
Hewett - Role dependent but played well out of position in defensive lock down roles and tagged a bit also, he's their best inside midfielder outside Cripps and, based on last two years, flat out their best. Hidden behind JPK/Parker in particular. He's got genuine Jarryd Lyons scoring potential. Needs the role though and that's not tagging. Must watch.
Hill - Battled injuries all year, actually looked good off half back but they need him on the wing and fit...
Day - I think he's the best of the Hawks bunch, durability already an issue but he's probably cheap enough to have the reward side in his favour.
Coffield - Will watch, didn't like him last year, looked a future star 2 years ago like so many Saints.
Blakey - Durability a huge issue but someone needs to support Lloyd off half back and he looked exceptional doing it, time for him to produce regularly at this point and a huge o***eason for him.
Farrar - Quality ball user, lack of confidence and workrate to get the ball is his issue but so dynamic with it I'd hope they focus on changing that.
Campbell - Role will be interesting but if off half back or even genuine midfield would be worth watching.
Paton - Just about cheap enough to have cash cow quality. Really good player.
Chapman - Be interesting to see how they shape up, quality kid, cheap enough to be at least in play.
Milera - If he's fit, at that price, he's hard to pass up on.
La. Jones - Kid is quality, role will be big as will his fitness, needs a flawless preseason to get in AFL shape.
Bowey - Really impressive kid, ticks a lot of SC boxes. Probably too many chefs.
Coleman - Looked dynamic off half back and Brisbane desperately need another rebounder to support Rich, genuine 90 average is well within him based on how he looked to end last year in the role.
Ruscoe - Another who showed plenty off half back, probaly too many other names there though.
Budarick - Really like him and dirt cheap, not sure if first year back from ACL is going to be breakout year though.
Connolly - Liked the look of him also, tough group to break in and hold onto.

Classing all below this as rookies.

Mids
<90

M. Crouch - Obvious if fit, massive ?
B. Smith - Reckon he should build on his finish, lot of chefs.
Drew - He's a stud, can he get the role?
Yeo - Same as Crouch.
McGrath - Talent but I'm not sure he's got the upside, wasn't meant to get passed by Parish.
Prestia - Durability is horrific but he's great value.
LDU - He's been a real slow burn but finally showed something last year and he's an absurd talent, wouldn't shock me if he pushes a Petracca style breakout, seemed to finally work out just how good he is last year. Cunnington's sad issues could open the door also.
Cripps - Of course...
Viney - Watching given his scoring ability but durability is a huge issue and I don't think the upside is high enough to trump it.
Anderson - Love him long term, might be too early this year.
Serong - Cerra opens the door, Fyfe struggling also opens the door, he's a stud.
T. Green - Always going to be here, he's too good at SC things to not breakout eventually, just not sure he can with so many one dimensional types ahead of him on seniority.
L. McDonald - Probably not enough upside here but he's borderline at his best from that price point.
Lipinski - Think more a draft guy as not sure the ceiling is there in a loaded midfield.
Rowell - Obviously on the list... durability a huge concern but his performance last year is my bigger concern, looked shook and needs to move beyond that.
J. Berry - I was tempted to start him last year before his body fell apart in preseason. Needs a flawless preseason but he's got 100+ potential. If he's fit he's just about a lock for me.
Caldwell - Will watch but don't love it given durability and expense but will watch. Parish did him in also.
Bytel - Similar to Caldwell where I'm not sold the ceiling is high enough but if there weren't rookies he's up there for me.
Hannebery - Too cheap to ignore but probably too expensive to be worth it.

Rucks
All

Marshall - Injuries and injury impacted games, not sure the upside is there with Ryder around but worth watching.
ROB - Was clearly something wrong last year, ceiling not high enough probably but there's value. Especially if Gawn and Grundy don't bounce back from their steep declines to end last year.
Lycett - His biggest problem now gone but big jump for him.
OMc - Finished very strongly, ceiling again an issue.
English - Too talented and really needs to make the leap this year to genuine ruckman, he was a long way behind physically coming in but it's time.
Draper - Rate him very highly, think he jumps to the 100 mark this year, whether that's enough is a genuine conundrum.
Witts - Good value but, once again, ceiling?
Reeves - This one is very interesting, if he cements the #1 role he showed some serious stuff, no mans pricing.
Preuss - I mean he's a lock if he wins the #1 gig.

Forwards
<80

Daniher - Geniunely. Another season fitter and Hipwood out for a while could be a big start.
McKay - Think his time has come, midfield seriously beefed up this o***eason, headed into his 6th season which is the KP season. Hawkins, Cameron and JJK all broke out that season, Buddy broke back and entered his prime, Daniher went in his 5th season. It's that time.
Gulden - Watching for role but there's a lot of Zach Merrett about him, probably a season early but he's a premium forward barring Horse doing Horse things...
Darling - Their entire midfield got wrecked last year, I don't love him but there's value if things are looking good.
Anderson - Interesting one this, role is crucial, fitness similarly and it's hard to not say he was passed by a handful of guys last year who are much more talented but his scoring history is also really strong.
Weller - Will watch but at this point he's that girl I think is hot that no one else does, I still rate him but has avoided taking the step like the plague.
Rozee - Obvious.
Pickett - Will watch for more midfield time.
Powell - Rare scoring ability as a first yearer, no reason he can't jump to 95 range given his qualities.
CCJ - Goldy watch basically.
Walters - Cheap enough that if he's fit you have to question, especially given one of their two genuine quality mids left in Cerra and the other is Mundy, they need class there, whether it's him to do it is another story.
O. Allen - Will watch for role, it's his team now for mine, he's too good to be getting out of the way for Darling/Kennedy who just don't have his ability at this point but I don't know if Simpson is dynamic enough to actually do that.
Rioli - Excellent off half back last year, classy as there. Can push low 90s comfortably in the easiest role in the sport. Probably can go higher.
C. Nash - Was huge to end the season as a midfielder, hard to ignore how good he looked but also how wide open that midfield is for opportunities.
Rankine - I will watch because he's too talented but until he shows up in shape and is playing midfield, I'll also just watch.
Gresham - Too cheap to ignore given his potential but it's a big ask.
Bianco - I rate him very highly, not sure he can break in this year but if he does then he's got 80+ in his bag of tricks and 90s definitely not beyond him.
Rayner - Will watch, not sure if he can get the midfield minutes and for a notoriously poor trainer an ACL is always a huge concern but he's so cheap.
Perkins - Loved his first year, needs to get a lot fitter but the talent is clear.
Coniglio - I mean if he's fit he's a total lock...
Phillips - Big season for him, rate him very highly, midfield opportunity is the question, if he plays there he will score big.
Brodie - Probably more of a rookie price guy but he's got genuine JPK potential, he's a stud as a pure inside midfielder but he's also useless everywhere else, they've got minutes for him if he takes the chance and shows up in shape...

Almost certainly missed a few names but those were the ones that popped on the first run through!

As always an enjoyable read.

Thoughts on Constable if he can get pure midfield role. ?

 

[Vicwood]

Prue

Why do you need a R/F? It sort of defeats the purpose of starting a
cheaper ruck. Save the cash to have better premo’s.

Pruess, gaurenteed he will miss games, but just so cheap hard to ignore. Pruess could easily make 300K before the byes.

Been messing around with Ladhams,on the off chance Hickey gets injured before RD1. Another option is to run a cheaper R2 {witts draper) and sit pruess on the Bench.? Currently Plan B is in effect.

 

[gutsroy]

It's an open relationship in here, you're more than encouraged to contribute
I just think Jackson has the ability to contribute further even when outside of the ruck role, he's athletic and just look a big game player. I agree that 2022 may be a season early but wouldn't surprise.

He's outstanding. And was absolutely pivotal in the GF when they needed someone to lift them in the middle.
Absolutely understand it 👍

 

[Buddy Starmart]

set and forget rucks in Darcy and Grundy as most years it would fail maybe if going cheaper options as they need 6 very good games in a row from get go perhaps

 

[Ben's Beasts]

It's an open relationship in here, you're more than encouraged to contribute
I just think Jackson has the ability to contribute further even when outside of the ruck role, he's athletic and just look a big game player. I agree that 2022 may be a season early but wouldn't surprise.

Fwiw, I'm fairly bullish on Jackson's prospects in 2022.

I stated regularly in the lead up to last season that Jackson would have very little impact on Gawn's SC scoring but I suspect that will change next season.

Jackson was pivotal in the ruck during the last half of the third quarter in our GF win and based on that I can see him getting much more of a run in the ruck in 2022. Expect him to also score points in the middle (almost like an extra midfielder) and up forward.

If Jackson was RUC only then I wouldn't go near him but I think there's a reasonably good chance that he can average 95+ which is acceptable for a FWD.

Jackson is my current R2, whilst I'm very unlikely to start Gawn.

 

[Bontempele]

The thing with Darcy and for me is that it's hard to see him being anymore than 5ppg better than Gawn or Grundy, in fact it's still hard for me to see him over the season accumulating anymore points than the latter two when you factor in his missed games through injury.

That being said, I missed Gawn's breakout year because I said exactly the same thing.

He's a high risk low reward player for me over 23 rounds

The good thing is that moving from him to any other player is relatively easy given his price which has been unheard of these last few years in the ruck line.

I think I'd agree with that for Darcy vs Grundy. But not sure Gawn is that likely to play every game given his age and niggles over the past few years.

 

[PC]

Fwiw, I'm fairly bullish on Jackson's prospects in 2022.

I stated regularly in the lead up to last season that Jackson would have very little impact on Gawn's SC scoring but I suspect that will change next season.

Jackson was pivotal in the ruck during the last half of the third quarter in our GF win and based on that I can see him getting much more of a run in the ruck in 2022. Expect him to also score points in the middle (almost like an extra midfielder) and up forward.

If Jackson was RUC only then I wouldn't go near him but I think there's a reasonably good chance that he can average 95+ which is acceptable for a FWD.

Jackson is my current R2, whilst I'm very unlikely to start Gawn.

Not start with The Beard?! Ok, who hacked BB??

 

[pizza safety]

Anyone else thinking of handcuffing Luke Jackson and Gawn - Jackson was impressive for his second season and could be a smoky to take another leap being handy with forward status.

Also like the looks of Will Day.

Regarding Gresham, coming off a serious achillies I'm interested to know how Roughead came back as for some reason I thought he struggled.

Zac Williams had a career best year coming off an achilles injury, but was a little bit more recovered than Gresham is as he came and played two games in the finals the year before. It's not a great injury and how well he's recovered will be apparent by February/March.

 

[pizza safety]

Fwiw, I'm fairly bullish on Jackson's prospects in 2022.

I stated regularly in the lead up to last season that Jackson would have very little impact on Gawn's SC scoring but I suspect that will change next season.

Jackson was pivotal in the ruck during the last half of the third quarter in our GF win and based on that I can see him getting much more of a run in the ruck in 2022. Expect him to also score points in the middle (almost like an extra midfielder) and up forward.

If Jackson was RUC only then I wouldn't go near him but I think there's a reasonably good chance that he can average 95+ which is acceptable for a FWD.

Jackson is my current R2, whilst I'm very unlikely to start Gawn.

Good notes regarding Jackson, he has an immense amount of talent and I reckon will get in the way of Gawn's scoring even more this season. My question would be how often have players gone over 90+ playing as the second ruck? I'm not sure myself. I can definitely see him going 80-90, but 90+ might be a stretch on the surface.

 

[Merv Neagle]

Dylan Moore from the Hawks, is he going to have a breakout season? Expected sc average?

 

[freowho]

Good notes regarding Jackson, he has an immense amount of talent and I reckon will get in the way of Gawn's scoring even more this season. My question would be how often have players gone over 90+ playing as the second ruck? I'm not sure myself. I can definitely see him going 80-90, but 90+ might be a stretch on the surface.

I think Cox and NicNat did it.

 

[Shannon]

I think Cox and NicNat did it.

Correct

 

[Shannon]

Uncapped West Coast Eagles ruckman Callum Jamieson has been sidelined after needing knee surgery 😔

East Fremantle ruckman Luke Strnadica who joined West Coast as a train-on, has been relieving Oscar Allen of backup ruck duties at training.

Very good chance he will be added to our list with Jamieson likely out long term/ NN & Bailey Williams are the only other AFL ready rucks. Jack Williams (drafted this year) is going to take awhile to be ready.

Strnadica spent a decent amount of time fwd last year in the WAFL, so fair chance he will be a Ruck/ Fwd priced at 102k. WCE have a lot of late games next season so looms as a great R3 option with an outside chance of getting games.

 

[Ironhawk]

Dylan Moore from the Hawks, is he going to have a breakout season? Expected sc average?

See the comment I made a few days ago about Butters where there's usually at least one player I go one year early on. I started Moore last season, and I hope he has a very good year this year. Maybe he is the one to break out!

...I'm not picking him this year. He is turning into a very good player, but I think he is settled spending the majority of time forward now, rather than getting the mid time I hoped he might get as a good runner when I chose him last year. He does still push into the midfield, but looking at the recent draft, the Hawks just recruited 5 midfielders. Seems clear the plan is that he will not be a first choice mid, more of a forward.

In that role, an 85 average and you would say he's had a good year. I think that is close to what he will score (i.e. around 10 points per game higher than this season) and hopefully he scores around that through development. If he goes much higher than that, the Hawks are having a good year, as it means a lot of ball in their forward line! He is a good kick, so should get a few goals and assists, just needs to get a bit more of it.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Does anyone have structures available for the round #1 teams that did really well this season? I thought we had a reveal thread round #1 teams but I'm struggling to locate that thread.

Even if anyone form the top 1000 here could link their round 1 teams I'd be keen for a look.

 

[KLo30]

Does anyone have structures available for the round #1 teams that did really well this season? I thought we had a reveal thread round #1 teams but I'm struggling to locate that thread.

Even if anyone form the top 1000 here could link their round 1 teams I'd be keen for a look.

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/reveal-your-team-slowly.4577/

 

[Merv Neagle]

See the comment I made a few days ago about Butters where there's usually at least one player I go one year early on. I started Moore last season, and I hope he has a very good year this year. Maybe he is the one to break out!

...I'm not picking him this year. He is turning into a very good player, but I think he is settled spending the majority of time forward now, rather than getting the mid time I hoped he might get as a good runner when I chose him last year. He does still push into the midfield, but looking at the recent draft, the Hawks just recruited 5 midfielders. Seems clear the plan is that he will not be a first choice mid, more of a forward.

In that role, an 85 average and you would say he's had a good year. I think that is close to what he will score (i.e. around 10 points per game higher than this season) and hopefully he scores around that through development. If he goes much higher than that, the Hawks are having a good year, as it means a lot of ball in their forward line! He is a good kick, so should get a few goals and assists, just needs to get a bit more of it.

Great stuff mate, Merry Christmas.

 

[NT.Thunder]

https://supercoachscores.com/threads/reveal-your-team-slowly.4577/

Awesome, but now I can't find peoples final rankings......I'm on struggle street!!!!